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07-17-2012, 08:34 PM
#61
I wouldn't have guessed it's the intense car because I'm pretty sure they cracked a sleeve?
So there are powerlab kits making power other than the intense G! That's good.
I'm curious to see how this turbo matches up. I'd like to see it flow out to 8.5k and have decent transient response (although I'll definitely setup the boost to roll in)
So there are powerlab kits making power other than the intense G! That's good.
I'm curious to see how this turbo matches up. I'd like to see it flow out to 8.5k and have decent transient response (although I'll definitely setup the boost to roll in)
Good luck with your setup. My concern would be your intentions to run it up to 8500RPM on the rev-up oil pump. The rev-up oil pump failed when Sound Performance revved that high on their shop car. I wouldn't attempt to rev that high without a Nismo oil pump or a dry sump setup. I don't have much faith in the stock oil pump (including the revup version) for going beyond 7500RPM.
07-17-2012, 08:45 PM
#62
LOL It doesn't have a cracked sleeve. I wonder who started that false rumor. Han still street drives the car on the 37R turbo.
Good luck with your setup. My concern would be your intentions to run it up to 8500RPM on the rev-up oil pump. The rev-up oil pump failed when Sound Performance revved that high on their shop car. I wouldn't attempt to rev that high without a Nismo oil pump or a dry sump setup. I don't have much faith in the stock oil pump (including the revup version) for going beyond 7500RPM.
Good luck with your setup. My concern would be your intentions to run it up to 8500RPM on the rev-up oil pump. The rev-up oil pump failed when Sound Performance revved that high on their shop car. I wouldn't attempt to rev that high without a Nismo oil pump or a dry sump setup. I don't have much faith in the stock oil pump (including the revup version) for going beyond 7500RPM.
And I believe SP broke a nismo oil pump... alongside a set of pauters... and the input shaft on their transmission...
But thanks! I need some luck to finish this thing. Keep running into crap that needs to be done aside from the car. Fittings should be here soon to start putting in the fuel lines. And need to install the clutch bracket.... wiring... boost lines... etc.
07-17-2012, 09:09 PM
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Well, I'm not going to pay 1k for that thing. My buddy picked up a 6 stage dry sump pump setup for about 600$ shipped.
If it fails, I'll just make a dry sump setup with the spare oil pan I have, pull everything out (
) and then hook her all up again.
07-18-2012, 07:54 AM
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I've taken my rev-up pump out to 8700 on my last engine. Only reason I don't rev it past 8k now is due to the higher chance of any type of failure. I'm tired of working on my car so I don't push it as hard. Never really worried about the oil pump though. Not that my opinion means it is a safe thing to do though.
07-18-2012, 11:45 AM
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If i hear something haneous coming from my engine bay after a pull you can bet your *** im getting it towed back to my place.
And the way i drive my car, it wont see those rpms often. I trust what dynosty says (have talked to hal and dustin both about rpm limits) and understand these oil pumps dont have a good design for high rpm use. Just like the eagle rod discussion ive made an
informed decision about this and am not chamging my mind. Thats with all due respect rich.
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07-19-2012, 02:43 PM
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What are your plans for oiling? Going to run an oil restrictor, and if so what size? What about a check valve? Did you plan on making a little catch tank like sashas kits?
07-19-2012, 02:52 PM
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Oh and I don't know why I said the dp was 3" it's 3.5".
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07-19-2012, 04:44 PM
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Yea ive read mixed things about using restrictors with JB turbos. I was asking because i am building my own kit myself with a JB 6266 (just finally got the turbo) and was wondering which route you were going.
So your doing a self contained oil system? This build should be pretty epic!
So your doing a self contained oil system? This build should be pretty epic!
07-20-2012, 07:57 AM
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If i hear something haneous coming from my engine bay after a pull you can bet your *** im getting it towed back to my place.
Looking forward to your results and to see if the separate oiling setup comes to fruition, that would be new ground
07-20-2012, 09:46 AM
#74
the best way is to measure the oil pressure at the turbo. should only be ~30psi. Anything more and you can start pushing oil past the seals.
Yea ive read mixed things about using restrictors with JB turbos. I was asking because i am building my own kit myself with a JB 6266 (just finally got the turbo) and was wondering which route you were going.
So your doing a self contained oil system? This build should be pretty epic!
So your doing a self contained oil system? This build should be pretty epic!
07-20-2012, 12:38 PM
#75
The issue with a stand alone oil system like mine you get steady pressure throughout the revs so you dont really want to push it to max psi all the time but you need it fairly close so that when you do make high boost pulls theres plenty of oil running through. Im probably going to set the pressure to be just a few psi short of what the factory pump puts out on highest pressure levels.
07-20-2012, 10:17 PM
#77
supposedly the HR pump will fit if you get rid of one of the dowels or elongate the hole. it has a much thicker gear in it supposedly the same as the nismo(although ive also heard the nismo is identical to the rev up)
http://g35driver.com/forums/engine-d...omparison.html
personally im confident in my revup though but thats just me.
http://g35driver.com/forums/engine-d...omparison.html
personally im confident in my revup though but thats just me.
07-21-2012, 10:02 AM
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supposedly the HR pump will fit if you get rid of one of the dowels or elongate the hole. it has a much thicker gear in it supposedly the same as the nismo(although ive also heard the nismo is identical to the rev up)
http://g35driver.com/forums/engine-d...omparison.html
personally im confident in my revup though but thats just me.
http://g35driver.com/forums/engine-d...omparison.html
personally im confident in my revup though but thats just me.
The rev-up oil pump is not identical to the Nismo pump.
07-21-2012, 10:44 AM
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In the OP of that g35driver thread, he said that the HR oil pump appeared to be identical to the Nismo pump and can bolt onto a DE motor. I'll have to look into the validity of that. If so, I wonder what the price of an HR pump is versus the Nismo.
The rev-up oil pump is not identical to the Nismo pump.
The rev-up oil pump is not identical to the Nismo pump.
The rev up is "identical" to the de pump. The differences are a different material for the inner cog (.4oz heavier and harder material) and i think a different spring for like 17% or so higher pressure than de pumps
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