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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 08:17 PM
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Also id like to point out the angle of your setup is so harsh to the flow of the air that it no where near working at its proper efficiency. Im sure Nik, engineer, will elaborate on that more than I can (dumb driver) but I at least know thats not a good thing to be at a bad angle like that
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 09:43 PM
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the issue with flex pipes is even though they will fail eventually(section thats replaceable mayby?) they prevent a much more massive failure in exhuast studs ripping out of the heads. as the engine heats it will expand so will the exhuast piping and it tends to lead to bolts and studs ripped out of the heads can see several results online with V engines and single turbos that dint do this and had just that happen.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 10:19 PM
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Hmm having second thoughts on this kit now! Maybe flex joints would be a nice addition?
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 06:15 AM
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^ easy to add if you've got a good exhaust shop locally, if it's a concern to you. I have run without flex sections before with my prior kit/exhaust and what worried me was the stress on super heated manifolds if you happen to scrape an exhaust section... Hal highly recommended flex sections for the downpipes this go around.

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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 07:13 AM
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i dont have any flexpipes. my poly exhaust hangers must flex enough to account for any heat droop as I have not had any issues. plus solid motor mounts.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 07:54 AM
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Kevin, Before I get off topic on this build thread too much, you are not a vendor, you work for a vendor, you've posted a total of 21 times. You talk so much about me making comments. Your welders can defy physics and unicorn semen spools your turbo faster than anyone else. Here is the off thread **** talk this the so called fastest bestest super awesomest turbo kit member has sapt because he feels its his duty to put down anyone in the Z community that isn't blindly listening to their First Production Turbo Kit Build. Have you ever seen a Daily Driven car without a flex pipe? They Do fail but its a wear item that isolates the dampening to a specific area. I limited my **** talking to face to face but if you want to drag it into a public forum I have free time, my Premier Mafia days are flashing back and This could be a good derailment from my office hours.

Anyway Here is a copy of last nights conversation, Kevin from SOSLO has this to say.


Don James
Should've voted for the only car that has a chance!

10:28pm
K Parlett Racing
Lmfao Donny boy if you only had a clue.
Just to let you know bud, that's not "voting" go read the rules of the competition.

10:29pm
Don James
I know, I did!
Im jsut having some friendly smack talk
its my process

10:30pm
K Parlett Racing
How old are you? Like 45 and talking **** in the Internet? Haha interesting

10:30pm
Don James
But Id love to goto Road Atlanta but my schedule is quite busy as well.

10:31pm
K Parlett Racing
Well I'll be all over the country so meet me at any and we will call it a day
http://kparlettracing.blogspot.com/p/schedule.html

10:33pm
Don James
You can see my FB bud! Next time you run up at Mid O or Putnam Ill try to make it there. I do happen to work full time running my company, and other hobbies such as racing planes, But Id love to come run away from a pro sometime or at least give it a go.

10:36pm
K Parlett Racing
See you at ZDayZ man, not sure if we will be at the top dawg event though as that adds and extra day to that weekend after having 4 days in Atlanta the weekend before, we have day jobs too but we will be on the Tail for sure. And the 280 is gonna win I think anyway so we both lose haha.

10:39pm
Don James
I just found out about this tonight, I am spreading the word. I have several nissans and my my Formula D S12 build is on a few forums I am hoping to volly some support there. This is just a great opportunity to take a vaca and love my car I built. Ive poured 5 years into my Z and with all my friends in the community that know me I love everything Nissan. I spoke with the editor last week after submitting just thanking her for choosing me to be a finalist. Anyway coming this far is a big win for me.

10:40pm
K Parlett Racing
What im trying to say is though that there is no voting...

10:40pm
Don James
I know, the editors pick
But im sure they are going to see this

10:40pm
K Parlett Racing
And I feel ya on the long journey, my G35 I've built from the ground up, went to prom in it lmfao
And Nik's journey is even more impressive

10:40pm
Don James
Don't you think that the process is going to include looking at this!

10:41pm
K Parlett Racing
Not really
The specifically say in the rules what is going to happen and to take the FB into account would be in violation of the rules
If they didnt allow voting on the firs round of 35 then they definitely wont now

10:46pm
Don James
I saw this. I read the rules carefully.

10:52pm
K Parlett Racing
The guy who owns the white car, Nik, is a Mechanical Engineer for Nascar, left nascar to start his own company and then we built my time attack car which is easily one of if not the fastest G35 track car anywhere.

10:53pm
Don James
If it really doesnt count, I would say why dont you post up commenting that everyone should vote for #1
make me feel better if it really doesnt count
Im sure the G is quick

10:53pm
K Parlett Racing
He also designed our turbo kit that we sell which is insanely efficient. BP is a good kit but ours makes 400/400 at 4.7psi on completely stock engine and insane numbers on built apps depending on the specs

10:53pm
Don James
they were an under developed race chassis in my opinion

10:54pm
K Parlett Racing
Nothing wrong with that chassis one bit
We are one of the fastest Limited cars in the country

10:55pm
Don James
Im not doubting the shop. Ive supported everyone of your build threads on the Z forums for years

10:55pm
K Parlett Racing
Well I appreciate it, you came off a little abrasive sir haha

10:55pm
Don James
I just love stiring the pot. Makes car crap worthwhile

10:55pm
K Parlett Racing
Im far too competitive to be challenged hahaha

10:55pm
Don James
2 inches of snow on the ground here and I can't drive ****!
Except my Juke

10:56pm
K Parlett Racing
Snowed here yesterday as well dont feel bad

10:56pm
Don James
My Z is at Wright Motorsports I still want to race
If we end up at an event Ill look forward to it!
I raced and did aerobatic unlimited aircraft competitions for the last 10 years, cars they are just much cheaper.
Oh in response. I wouldn't say I am abrasive, Just call a spade a spade. Im an *******. I know who I am

11:51pm
K Parlett Racing
Are you really that ridiculous that your trying to trash talk on our forums too?

11:52pm
Don James
Which forums
Im not talking **** on any forums right now except to vote for me? But Tell me where to go and Ill jump in the mix. Ive got nothing better to do tonight.

11:53pm
K Parlett Racing
SO this isnt your signature?11.8 @ 133 (Traction Issues)
1:46:05 @ Mid Ohio 2012
(Not Stock + Driver Mod)
Lol

11:54pm
Don James
Indeed it is. Thats my sig on my350 I believe

11:54pm
K Parlett Racing
Just saw your little post on our turbo thread about your BP kit mod, I dont know who you are or where you come off with us but I can assure you that everything on our kit is perfectly fine and will out perfrom bp's kit every single time on any application

11:54pm
Don James
I have never said anything bad about SOHO on there. I did respect all shops.

11:55pm
K Parlett Racing
Its kind of uneccessary coming on facbook talking **** and then posting on our forums issues about your kit that has zero to do with our kit.

11:55pm
Don James
Recommendations brosef, HPDEs, Time Attack Events, and PCA events last year plus the dragon and those were issue that came up.
I have had my BP kit for 2 years, it was the first of his designs, Sasha is a good friend. Im not saying its better than anything in any way, just asking why havent you compensated for these issues. Especially on a Z or G chassis with solid bushings.

11:59pm
Don James
Nothing wrong with voicing my opinion, if you don't like it. I don't really give a ****. Its a forum. Trying to save you the trouble of running into issues later. No flex piping, Heavy WG off a long 90 without any gusset. Yah I don't have a tig to weld my **** but I migged a gusset and was back racing later that week. It may be isolated to BP kits but I would think they are similarly designed and based on my experiences with the Z why wouldn't I voice concerns if people are going to buy it.

12:01am
Don James
Trying to quell my opinions because you think I have it out for you because you are a wheel jockey or soho is dead wrong. I supported momentum back then, supported Sasha when he started BP, I had a TN kit when i first came out, a JWT kit and after my stock block blew from a faulty haltech I worked with sasha to develop his single kit. In other words I privately financed my decision and I could give a **** less what you think or want to say.

12:10am
K Parlett Racing
Well if you have had that much experience then you would knoe that one person welding one kit and another person welding another, with different quality machines and different quality craftsmanship will net different results. Ours doesn't lack in that category. I appreciate your opinions but they couldnt be more wrong in this case. The guys who do the stuff on our cars are NASCAR employees, it doesnt get any better than that.

12:11am
K Parlett Racing
SInce you have gone through all of the kits trying to find the best one, let me know when you want to end that search

12:11am
Don James
At least I know your kit will make left turns well!

12:12am
K Parlett Racing
Clever of you
I wish they would just take us all out there and let us race for ourselves
hahaha
We could end all of this right then and there

12:16am
Don James
Yup, But stock block 350 making whatever, vs oem RB not built vs The Holy Grail of 350Zs the driver wont even matter. Those 1.1 mile straights ill be so far ahead, It'd be better to just read about it.
But in all seriousness, Good Luck and Good Night. Ill be following the status of your Turbo Setup closely

12:18am
K Parlett Racing
Holy Grail of 350Z?

12:18am
Don James
Im anxious to see the next big thing

12:18am
K Parlett Racing
lol
But what you fail to realize is that Project 370Z is a stock block as well

12:19am
Don James
Yes but stock HR derived 370 block is a lot different than a stock revup block
If they want a fair fight ill run pump gas and A048s

12:20am
K Parlett Racing
If we though entering a fully built car, which truly is the holy grail then we would have entered our track car, or our track prepped Z. But its about what matches uo best and the best nissan story, which is gonna have to be Nik
But yeah good luck to you too man
I think the S30 is gonna win it though haha
I guess we will know tomorrow

12:21am
Don James
Indeed
Cheers to the slowest car winning it all

12:21am
K Parlett Racing
Lol

12:22am
Don James
I thought my Z story was heart warming
Is all about family and hardship

12:22am
K Parlett Racing
They cut half of it so I dont know, they cut half of niks as well
500 words and they posted 100 lol

12:23am
Don James
Where is all this posted Ive been in Vt for a week skiing
Off the grid

12:24am
K Parlett Racing
On that page

12:24am
Don James
Ill read it tomorrow not enough time left in today for me to care.
Oh don't take the SOSLO comment personally, just some late night friendly competition.

12:27am
K Parlett Racing
I dont take anything personally with cars, I'm always fastest on track and thats all that matters to me.

12:28am
Don James
Just because you haven't raced me yet. You kids and your 2 dimensional racing. Fast is 500+ MPH 100 feet off the ground through uprights 50 feet apart pulling 7-8gs.

12:43am
K Parlett Racing
You know nothing about me. I grew up my family top fuel and top alcohol drag racing 300mph in the 1/4 and 4 sec. Don't care much for planes but good for you?

12:54am
Don James
I woke up to respond to this. Don't get butt hurt, I don't claim to know anyone or anything more than I know. As for the history lesson, I also don't care. If you know me then you'd know me. Nothing more. Don't try to get all Freudian on me. I'm going wish you well in all your endeavors and may you be successful and the best at whatever you do, but you will never be half as good as I think I am. Because 60% of the time I am the best every time. With that said my car enthusiast friend you may have spent a good deal of your evening volleying with a cynical a-hole; but in no way are you any worse off for it; and with that adieu.
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-END THREAD JACK

But What I come away from this is a bunch of butt hurt kids that are so worried that their High Comp Car makes more power, great job it made 400 hp.

2 years ago were you guys even around? Let alone racing on one of your designs that is for sale to the public. Have a Shop car that goes to a track and having a customer with a Daily Driven and weekend track car. I Drive my Z on **** roads, over bumps, pot holes, drive through car washes, Tow Trucks, Steep driveways that bottom your kit out, Hitting road kill, all of these things do no happen on the track all of them have the potential to destroy parts of your car. A Flex section is an insurance policy and cheap one at that. If you don't want to offer that thats your prerogative. As an active member of our community My opinion only counts as much as it makes sense for people to listen. I am no professional, but I have owned my 350 since new and been a member on here almost 10 years, Ive seen it all and small race operations come and go. Unfortunately for you guys, you cannot accept criticism or outside opinions for ****, and will ultimately be your failing characteristic Kevin as a representative of SOHO you need to be better. Don't be goaded some arrogant *** like me, but its just too easy to pick a fight when you see red every time someone doesn't agree with you.

Here is the simple fact. Make more power, Bring the white car and come race me at the Top Dawg Event if I win you pay my entry into the event, if not Ill pay yours. I am excited about the Project 370, Whether you have sour grapes or not. I will always think I am better than anything you can ever be Kevin because 60% of the time I win every time!

~End Rant & Thread Jack

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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 08:25 AM
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Who the **** do you think you are, quoting our conversations? Are you like a five year old kid?

12:13pm
Don James
Dont post it on the net if you don't want it coming back to bite you in the ***. Also don't call me out as a jealous *** on the forums when all I did was notice something that I thought would make your kit better.

12:19pm
Don James
Kevin, no body gives a **** about how awesome you guys are. If you want to call me out. I have a lot of free time to do nothing more than talk **** on the net. I have 100% visibility because people can see what I say and trust that either way I'm not going to bull **** them. I don't blow smoke, I am an ***, and I am not going anywhere. Simple fact is you've done nothing to but try to belittle me since I spoke up with one thing on that forum, and you think Im arrogant. If everyone needs to follow the socialist ways of some have finished race only project let it be done by some other fool and his money will soon be parted. To have longevity in the business, especially dealing with people the likes of me, Respect everyone and be humble. With that STOP coming to my FB and talking trying to hide be anonymity. You are so two faced, here you are bullish and just as dickish as I am but there you play the innocent victim. Get your **** straight and tow your company line or leave it alone. You are out of your depth here when it comes to running a company wheel jockey.
I went ahead and blocked him from FB so he couldn't dig himself any deeper. SOHO management still has my respect even if their drive acts a fool. At the end of the day though...

Point Proven.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 08:29 AM
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I hope everyone reads your post and laughs at your immaturity like me. Your just pissed off we are in the finals of the Nissan competiton with you and your car is twice the budget. I have already offered you to come meet us at a track yet you won't and made some bs reason as to why not. You have a very nice car but obviously I like ours better haha.

Aso for our welder's magic skills, I wouldnt quite call it magic but he is damn good at what he does and the design of our kit is proof of that. As for your 2 year comment, SOHO has been around for about 3 years but we have a lifetime of experience in the racing and automotive world before that that is applied to everything we do now.

Don I have no issue representing this company as I do a fine job of it except when ignorant folks like you troll on the internet, which I obv played along with, and then you like a 5 year old child decide to post it on the forums thinking others will get some jollies from it like you pathetically do.

As for you not being a proffesional, that much is obvious, and while I congratulate you on owning one Z for 10 years and posting on forums, that by no means qualify you as experienced. We may be a young company in the grand scheme of things but our experience is unbelievable from NASCAR to NHRA to more hours on track with Z's and G's than I can even fathom. And all of that collective knowledge has culminated into this kit.

I appreciate input from everyone, but only when it comes from an honest place. You are sinply on this thread to try and start **** just as you were doing on facebook last night.

As for knocking on us for our 4.7 power levels, our White Z is built as the average user would have, stock block with our turbo kit. So yes we could build the engine like you or like some of our other cars and get great amazing built numbers but at the end of the day 75% of people will want to know what it can do on a stock car at safe power for daily driving, and no comparable turbo kit on the market makes the power we do at low boost.

As for your little challenge like I said before we will be at a REAL race the days before ZDayz, please feel free to come race us. We will be racing the Z and the G at Road Atlanta for Global Time Attack and there for wont be making it to the ghetto drag race event that you are referring too. You call your car a "Time Attack" car with a "driver mod" hahaha well let's see what you have.

Now shut up on this thread with your nonsense, (which i will say the flex pipe comment is of value but the rest most certainly is not) but your personal conversation posting is beyond me. Grow up dude.

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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
hard to believe that you changed the VE of the motor that much by adding a plenum spacer.

You are basically saying that the plenum itself restricts more than then the intake valves.

I assume you left timing completely untouched and just fixed your AFR, which would be way off.

interesting data nonetheless. Next test should be doubling up the plenum spacers. The bigger the plenum volume, the less restriction effect it has on overall VE.
With the addition of the plenum spacer we removed the restriction of air flow that is seen in this OEM intake manifold. Not saying that the plenum itself restricts more than the intake valves but the plenum is what air has to travel through to get to the intake valves. If there is any change in the way that air is distributed in order to get to the intake valves it will affect the volumetric effiency of the motor. The first couple of runs that we did with this setup we were able to determine that there was a significant change in the boost pressure that the vehicle was seeing. With this observation we did not keep the timing the same nor did we keep the AFR the same because with a lower amount of boost, the timing and AFR can be adjusted accordingly. Doubling the plenum spacer, will help but will not make such a drastic change as the 5/16th plenum spacer did to the OEM intake manifold.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 08:38 AM
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lol i do like how 90% of the time when you disagree with someone about cars online they grew up in a family of pro racers, or they are nascar/f1/indy/add more here engineers. my family did have a friend with a nascar car before he sold it(not in my family we just knew him from his union days, no i dint work for him nor did anyway i know honestly i never met him in person myself) and for what those guys make i call bs on the story and his team was always at the back of the pack(why he sold the car) so i can only imagine what the other guys make. you dont quit nascar to start a shop working on 350z/370z's who would take a paycut like that. either its bs and no one actually worked for nascar or they got fired.


no offense im not saying the kit is bad, i do think no flex section is a horrible idea go to the turbo forum's and check out the results of that on V engines the turbo forums are without a doubt THE forums to go to for anything turbo related and actually do have engineers with degrees. outside of turbonetics or one of the ebay kits i dont think any of the top mounts are better then one another theres a dynapack here on island i could post 400 hp at 4.7 psi but that dosnt mean anything does it?

anytime you try and post up about how something you do is crazy better then what someone else does this forums going to eat you up, the people here arnt gullible 18 year olds modding civic. you might be able to do slightly better by engineering something but differences are going to be minor because too much r&d has already went in and the rough idea of what is going to happen with a given combo is already known.

personally i like my bp kit but thats just me, mi's kit is however different from mine, he sells a different kit from that too now he accepts it not perfect and continues to change it just like every kit isnt perfect. your kit isnt better then the bp kit and the jury is still out if his is better then yours the one person who has reviewed it so far isnt a great start however its understandable that hickups happen.

try not to take this as an attack as it isnt ment for that im just making the point that given the same dyno, same mods there various turbo kits are going to be relatively close to each other with comparable turbos. nothing magical about piping, theory would lead to shorter piping having a quicker spool like sasha's kit but that isnt always true, guarantee my intake has more of an effect on my power band and spool then the piping length differences.
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Kevin, Before I get off topic on this build thread too much, you are not a vendor, you work for a vendor, you've posted a total of 21 times. You talk so much about me making comments. Your welders can defy physics and unicorn semen spools your turbo faster than anyone else. Here is the off thread **** talk this the so called fastest bestest super awesomest turbo kit member has sapt because he feels its his duty to put down anyone in the Z community that isn't blindly listening to their First Production Turbo Kit Build. Have you ever seen a Daily Driven car without a flex pipe? They Do fail but its a wear item that isolates the dampening to a specific area. I limited my **** talking to face to face but if you want to drag it into a public forum I have free time, my Premier Mafia days are flashing back and This could be a good derailment from my office hours.

Anyway Here is a copy of last nights conversation, Kevin from SOSLO has this to say.




-END THREAD JACK

But What I come away from this is a bunch of butt hurt kids that are so worried that their High Comp Car makes more power, great job it made 400 hp.

2 years ago were you guys even around? Let alone racing on one of your designs that is for sale to the public. Have a Shop car that goes to a track and having a customer with a Daily Driven and weekend track car. I Drive my Z on **** roads, over bumps, pot holes, drive through car washes, Tow Trucks, Steep driveways that bottom your kit out, Hitting road kill, all of these things do no happen on the track all of them have the potential to destroy parts of your car. A Flex section is an insurance policy and cheap one at that. If you don't want to offer that thats your prerogative. As an active member of our community My opinion only counts as much as it makes sense for people to listen. I am no professional, but I have owned my 350 since new and been a member on here almost 10 years, Ive seen it all and small race operations come and go. Unfortunately for you guys, you cannot accept criticism or outside opinions for ****, and will ultimately be your failing characteristic Kevin as a representative of SOHO you need to be better. Don't be goaded some arrogant *** like me, but its just too easy to pick a fight when you see red every time someone doesn't agree with you.

Here is the simple fact. Make more power, Bring the white car and come race me at the Top Dawg Event if I win you pay my entry into the event, if not Ill pay yours. I am excited about the Project 370, Whether you have sour grapes or not. I will always think I am better than anything you can ever be Kevin because 60% of the time I win every time!

~End Rant & Thread Jack

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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 08:48 AM
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Im not using our race experience as an excuse by any means. I grew up in NHRA and IHRA and my family has a drag racing electronics company, Computech. I grew up in drag racing. Nik on the other hand grew up in Charlotte and worked for Red Bull Racing, he left there a year before they closed up shop (2 years ago) in an effort to start a company with his brother. I agree it is crazy to leave a Nascar job but Nik's goals were different and he wanted to start his own company with his family. Which is very impressive if you ask me.

anytime you try and post up about how something you do is crazy better then what someone else does this forums going to eat you up, the people here arnt gullible 18 year olds modding civic. you might be able to do slightly better by engineering something but differences are going to be minor because too much r&d has already went in and the rough idea of what is going to happen with a given combo is already known.

personally i like my bp kit but thats just me, mi's kit is however different from mine, he sells a different kit from that too now he accepts it not perfect and continues to change it just like every kit isnt perfect. your kit isnt better then the bp kit and the jury is still out if his is better then yours the one person who has reviewed it so far isnt a great start however its understandable that hickups happen.
I will agree, BP is a great kit, and if our kit didnt exist that would be the first one I go with. But the design differences between the two are substantial. Different turbo's, different material, different routing, different everything. But yes at the end of the day a turbo kit is a turbo kit is a turbo kit and the overall differences can only be so much. But having said that we believe our design is the best from our Garrett turbo choice to the routing of the piping in the engine bay to the stainless steel piping we use. The results at low boost are impressive and are simply meant to show the efficiency of our turbo kit compared to other kits. When you get into high hp built engine numbers those become subjective based on the mods of the car, that is why we have specifically chosen to keep the White Z with the stock block to demonstrate to the average customer what our kit is capable of with little effort.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 09:03 AM
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ahh ok. I have made 80+ whp more just from a few degrees of timing and corresponding AFR adjustment. At the start of one of my tunes i was making 620 on gate spring, by the end almost 700. That was just timing and AFR.

Too muddy to make any conclusions now, esp since this is the only data to show this result. Regardless, the your new tune is much better than the previous.

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With the addition of the plenum spacer we removed the restriction of air flow that is seen in this OEM intake manifold. Not saying that the plenum itself restricts more than the intake valves but the plenum is what air has to travel through to get to the intake valves. If there is any change in the way that air is distributed in order to get to the intake valves it will affect the volumetric effiency of the motor. The first couple of runs that we did with this setup we were able to determine that there was a significant change in the boost pressure that the vehicle was seeing. With this observation we did not keep the timing the same nor did we keep the AFR the same because with a lower amount of boost, the timing and AFR can be adjusted accordingly. Doubling the plenum spacer, will help but will not make such a drastic change as the 5/16th plenum spacer did to the OEM intake manifold.
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I hope everyone reads your post and laughs at your immaturity like me. Your just pissed off we are in the finals of the Nissan competiton with you and your car is twice the budget. I have already offered you to come meet us at a track yet you won't and made some bs reason as to why not. You have a very nice car but obviously I like ours better haha.

Aso for our welder's magic skills, I wouldnt quite call it magic but he is damn good at what he does and the design of our kit is proof of that. As for your 2 year comment, SOHO has been around for about 3 years but we have a lifetime of experience in the racing and automotive world before that that is applied to everything we do now.

Don I have no issue representing this company as I do a fine job of it except when ignorant folks like you troll on the internet, which I obv played along with, and then you like a 5 year old child decide to post it on the forums thinking others will get some jollies from it like you pathetically do.

As for you not being a proffesional, that much is obvious, and while I congratulate you on owning one Z for 10 years and posting on forums, that by no means qualify you as experienced. We may be a young company in the grand scheme of things but our experience is unbelievable from NASCAR to NHRA to more hours on track with Z's and G's than I can even fathom. And all of that collective knowledge has culminated into this kit.

I appreciate input from everyone, but only when it comes from an honest place. You are sinply on this thread to try and start **** just as you were doing on facebook last night.

As for knocking on us for our 4.7 power levels, our White Z is built as the average user would have, stock block with our turbo kit. So yes we could build the engine like you or like some of our other cars and get great amazing built numbers but at the end of the day 75% of people will want to know what it can do on a stock car at safe power for daily driving, and no comparable turbo kit on the market makes the power we do at low boost.

As for your little challenge like I said before we will be at a REAL race the days before ZDayz, please feel free to come race us. We will be racing the Z and the G at Road Atlanta for Global Time Attack and there for wont be making it to the ghetto drag race event that you are referring too. You call your car a "Time Attack" car with a "driver mod" hahaha well let's see what you have.

Now shut up on this thread with your nonsense, (which i will say the flex pipe comment is of value but the rest most certainly is not) but your personal conversation posting is beyond me. Grow up dude.
You are missing the point Kev'o, Immaturity is the point.

Being a smart ***, talking crap, making ludicrous statements all while pulling you down a level is a game I am happy to play. If anyone on the forum who knows me will attest the internet is about as reliable as you are in pleasuring a goat. It doesn't have to make sense to be fun, just hang on to one point. Beastiality aside my friend, You are so confident that your built race car can take down my DD toy. Im merely saying put up or shut up on the premise that a shop cars new turbo kit is better than your closest competitor. I can keyboard jockey all day and you may never understand... Even if I lose I still win. Just for responding you are confirming everyones suspicions.

I made a viable suggestion on a OPEN PUBLIC FORUM, if they don't take it no skin off my back. You friended me last night because I have a big mouth and choose to stir the pot on a PUBLIC SOCIAL MEDIA site. Instead of letting it go you go involved and what started out as friendly smack talk ended in you getting upset and harassing me over some mis-firing neurons in your hypo-campus.

You are not doing brain surgery here you are trying to dictate policy on my responses to a social convention. I can act a young or mature as I feel the situation calls for.

You own a shop. BTW, I made 400/400 on a stock block at 6 psi as well Dyno Dynamics. Big Deal. Owners are happy about the numbers, but that guy who doesn't have money to build his motor for a turbo, probably wont have the money to pull it back off because the studs on the heads sheered off or the wg flange cracks due to salt and water wear through temp cycling. You sell a track prepped race kit marketed as a DD bolt-on friendly kit and I just have to say are the facts in? You live in the most temperate part of the country. Its not too hot or too cold.

How do you feel about that owner that installs it himself, with hand tools spent his last dime on your kit only to have serious stress related issues because this is OFF ROAD only. You are a driver, your opinion in this matter is NULL. SOHO can address or not address my concerns with scientific and quantifiable facts.

As for the maturity of my actions, look inward and I stand by my messages, they are funny as hell. I had a great time BSing with you until you crossed that imaginary line between fun and sandy ****** land.

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lol i do like how 90% of the time when you disagree with someone about cars online they grew up in a family of pro racers, or they are nascar/f1/indy/add more here engineers. my family did have a friend with a nascar car before he sold it(not in my family we just knew him from his union days, no i dint work for him nor did anyway i know honestly i never met him in person myself) and for what those guys make i call bs on the story and his team was always at the back of the pack(why he sold the car) so i can only imagine what the other guys make. you dont quit nascar to start a shop working on 350z/370z's who would take a paycut like that. either its bs and no one actually worked for nascar or they got fired.
This...

So many Pros here, why would you leave a high 6 figure job unless you either sucked, got canned, or couldn't hack it. I fly Nascar mechanics around in a private jet from time to time... They are balling on another level at that point. When you are a mechanic chartering jets to inspect something or lend services elsewhere you have made it. Why would you give that up to build Z parts? Makes my head hurt.
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Kevin, Before I get off topic on this build thread too much, you are not a vendor, you work for a vendor, you've posted a total of 21 times. You talk so much about me making comments. Your welders can defy physics and unicorn semen spools your turbo faster than anyone else. Here is the off thread **** talk this the so called fastest bestest super awesomest turbo kit member has sapt because he feels its his duty to put down anyone in the Z community that isn't blindly listening to their First Production Turbo Kit Build. Have you ever seen a Daily Driven car without a flex pipe? They Do fail but its a wear item that isolates the dampening to a specific area. I limited my **** talking to face to face but if you want to drag it into a public forum I have free time, my Premier Mafia days are flashing back and This could be a good derailment from my office hours.

Anyway Here is a copy of last nights conversation, Kevin from SOSLO has this to say.




-END THREAD JACK

But What I come away from this is a bunch of butt hurt kids that are so worried that their High Comp Car makes more power, great job it made 400 hp.

2 years ago were you guys even around? Let alone racing on one of your designs that is for sale to the public. Have a Shop car that goes to a track and having a customer with a Daily Driven and weekend track car. I Drive my Z on **** roads, over bumps, pot holes, drive through car washes, Tow Trucks, Steep driveways that bottom your kit out, Hitting road kill, all of these things do no happen on the track all of them have the potential to destroy parts of your car. A Flex section is an insurance policy and cheap one at that. If you don't want to offer that thats your prerogative. As an active member of our community My opinion only counts as much as it makes sense for people to listen. I am no professional, but I have owned my 350 since new and been a member on here almost 10 years, Ive seen it all and small race operations come and go. Unfortunately for you guys, you cannot accept criticism or outside opinions for ****, and will ultimately be your failing characteristic Kevin as a representative of SOHO you need to be better. Don't be goaded some arrogant *** like me, but its just too easy to pick a fight when you see red every time someone doesn't agree with you.

Here is the simple fact. Make more power, Bring the white car and come race me at the Top Dawg Event if I win you pay my entry into the event, if not Ill pay yours. I am excited about the Project 370, Whether you have sour grapes or not. I will always think I am better than anything you can ever be Kevin because 60% of the time I win every time!

~End Rant & Thread Jack
Don, This is Nik, owner of SOHO Motorsports, and I would first off like to apologize for the actions and comments that Kevin has made to you and we have addressed the situation with him and I can assure you there will be no more of this behavoir that will come from any representative of SOHO Motorsports. As a company we are always open to criticism wether it is constructive or negative because if we did not want any criticism or any opinions from anybody we would not be posting anything on this forum. For example the incidient that we came across with a couple of weeks ago where a customer was having difficulty installing the piping from our turbo kit with aftermarket headers. We quickly addressed the situation and rerouted the downpipe to work with a majority of the aftermarket headers in the market. This brings the topic of our turbo kit not having any flex pipes, during the design of this kit we did bring the idea up of having flex pipes installed because they do relieve some stress whenever any pipe is hardmounted such as the pipes coming off of the manifolds. The current setup on this vehicle allows the turbo & hot side piping to move in relation to the motor with the help of a couple of exhaust hangers in two locations. The original design had the downpipe that was one solid pipe and after some R&D time we did notice minor signs of fatigue and have been determining ways to decrease some of the stress that is seen with the downpipe. This past weekend we created a two piece downpipe that we will be using that will help in relieving some stress that is experienced and we are constantly finding ways to make the kit better with changes. At this point we do not see any need for flex joints but it does not go to say that we eventually will need some, we will continue to test the kit on the white car, which is my personal vehicle that i commute to and from work with everyday for an overall 60 mile round trip. We do not post every single change that we have done to the kit because we want to test it first to ensure that it is the correct change to make, to this date we have made five changes to the original design that we first introduced to this forum back in october 2012 and we will continue to determine ways or find items that need to be changed. The wastegate that was on the original design was at a 90 degree angle and has since changed to a shorter and more angled tube that comes off of the downpipe. We will be posting pictures of the new two piece downpipe and the new orientation of the wastegate piping. We are not here to say that our kit is the biggest and baddest kit there is in the market today, if we have come across that way then we apologize we are just trying to bring a new product into the community where everybody can enjoy and comment/ criticize.
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This...

So many Pros here, why would you leave a high 6 figure job unless you either sucked, got canned, or couldn't hack it. I fly Nascar mechanics around in a private jet from time to time... They are balling on another level at that point. When you are a mechanic chartering jets to inspect something or lend services elsewhere you have made it. Why would you give that up to build Z parts? Makes my head hurt.
To some it isnt all about the money, and I left my job due to the excessive amount of travel that was involved, I got married and wanted to start this company and a family and not neglect my family like many individuals that are in NASCAR to this day.
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Originally Posted by SOHOMotorsports
Don, This is Nik, owner of SOHO Motorsports, and I would first off like to apologize for the actions and comments that Kevin has made to you and we have addressed the situation with him and I can assure you there will be no more of this behavoir that will come from any representative of SOHO Motorsports. As a company we are always open to criticism wether it is constructive or negative because if we did not want any criticism or any opinions from anybody we would not be posting anything on this forum. For example the incidient that we came across with a couple of weeks ago where a customer was having difficulty installing the piping from our turbo kit with aftermarket headers. We quickly addressed the situation and rerouted the downpipe to work with a majority of the aftermarket headers in the market. This brings the topic of our turbo kit not having any flex pipes, during the design of this kit we did bring the idea up of having flex pipes installed because they do relieve some stress whenever any pipe is hardmounted such as the pipes coming off of the manifolds. The current setup on this vehicle allows the turbo & hot side piping to move in relation to the motor with the help of a couple of exhaust hangers in two locations. The original design had the downpipe that was one solid pipe and after some R&D time we did notice minor signs of fatigue and have been determining ways to decrease some of the stress that is seen with the downpipe. This past weekend we created a two piece downpipe that we will be using that will help in relieving some stress that is experienced and we are constantly finding ways to make the kit better with changes. At this point we do not see any need for flex joints but it does not go to say that we eventually will need some, we will continue to test the kit on the white car, which is my personal vehicle that i commute to and from work with everyday for an overall 60 mile round trip. We do not post every single change that we have done to the kit because we want to test it first to ensure that it is the correct change to make, to this date we have made five changes to the original design that we first introduced to this forum back in october 2012 and we will continue to determine ways or find items that need to be changed. The wastegate that was on the original design was at a 90 degree angle and has since changed to a shorter and more angled tube that comes off of the downpipe. We will be posting pictures of the new two piece downpipe and the new orientation of the wastegate piping. We are not here to say that our kit is the biggest and baddest kit there is in the market today, if we have come across that way then we apologize we are just trying to bring a new product into the community where everybody can enjoy and comment/ criticize.
Well states; I can understand the justification. This does make sense to me... In my understanding you are damping the shock via rubber in the hangers and a multi jointed down pipe. Its a engineering difficulty to overcome ancillary issues with connecting but I am in for results. Much like my kit was the first prototype with a 90 bend in the WG and the new kits have shot angled wg flanges this is also a trend on many kits, a separation from trial and error. Good Luck and I honestly do wish you the best.

We are a very cynical group here but from that has spawned some great discussions and ultimately the community is better off. You can't make a good wine without smashing a few sour grapes in the process.
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Back to the turbo kit, here are some photos of the new down pipe layout that clears the Momentum headers. Momentum headers seem to be one of the widest, closest to the fire wall and most space constricting manifolds we have seen so we believe it will clear most but right now only have verified with these. Here are some photos of the fab work in process at the shop, a few photos of cars and most importantly the layout and routing of the new two piece downpipe. Note: It is very difficult to take a proper photos of clearances with little lighting and very little room but clearance is good throughout.













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Don, This is Nik, owner of SOHO Motorsports, and I would first off like to apologize for the actions and comments that Kevin has made to you and we have addressed the situation with him and I can assure you there will be no more of this behavoir that will come from any representative of SOHO Motorsports. As a company we are always open to criticism wether it is constructive or negative because if we did not want any criticism or any opinions from anybody we would not be posting anything on this forum. For example the incidient that we came across with a couple of weeks ago where a customer was having difficulty installing the piping from our turbo kit with aftermarket headers. We quickly addressed the situation and rerouted the downpipe to work with a majority of the aftermarket headers in the market. This brings the topic of our turbo kit not having any flex pipes, during the design of this kit we did bring the idea up of having flex pipes installed because they do relieve some stress whenever any pipe is hardmounted such as the pipes coming off of the manifolds. The current setup on this vehicle allows the turbo & hot side piping to move in relation to the motor with the help of a couple of exhaust hangers in two locations. The original design had the downpipe that was one solid pipe and after some R&D time we did notice minor signs of fatigue and have been determining ways to decrease some of the stress that is seen with the downpipe. This past weekend we created a two piece downpipe that we will be using that will help in relieving some stress that is experienced and we are constantly finding ways to make the kit better with changes. At this point we do not see any need for flex joints but it does not go to say that we eventually will need some, we will continue to test the kit on the white car, which is my personal vehicle that i commute to and from work with everyday for an overall 60 mile round trip. We do not post every single change that we have done to the kit because we want to test it first to ensure that it is the correct change to make, to this date we have made five changes to the original design that we first introduced to this forum back in october 2012 and we will continue to determine ways or find items that need to be changed.
Ugh, after reading this post it just sounds like the kit is still in the research and development phase. What if I buy a kit and you make another one of these "changes". Shouldn't you start selling the kit after all possible changes have been made?
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to be honest thats good if they are still reviewing things it is what most shops need. no one will be able to predict every set of circumstances and its better to change things when issues arise or are noticed rather then take some places lead and just ignore it and say good enough.
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