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Old Jan 17, 2015 | 12:37 PM
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hello, I for the life of me cant figure out how these will work. I have spent a few hrs trying them every which way possible. They came with my aam 3" downpipes but I dont know if they were a kit or what, it was a trade and the guy never installed them...Im wondering if they just wont work with my downpipes?? Anyone have any ideas I'd appreciate it...this is the last thing I have to do until I re install the engine and tranny back in the Z. As you can see in the pic,. there is no way to install the wastegate without it hitting the downpipe.
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Old Jan 17, 2015 | 02:01 PM
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from the looks of it, I have aam downpipes, but my wastegate relocation kit doesnt match up. I wonder if my wastegate relocation kit is svrt or something else? Thats why they wont work
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Old Jan 17, 2015 | 03:46 PM
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Even the AAM are tough. You have to install in the right order on the car to get them in. I had to clock my wastegate to get the ports facing the right way for plumbing the boost signals.

Those look like they locate the waste gates down low and out of the engine bay which would make them easier to service. The relocation pipes are not AAM.
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Old Jan 17, 2015 | 04:21 PM
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yea they def. relocate them down which is nice, but they just wont fit at all. Im just trying to figure out what I have. What do you mean by clock them? I think the only way to make them fit is to cut and re weld them I guess. This sucks

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Old Jan 17, 2015 | 05:42 PM
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we had to rotate the head so the base pressure port was rotated right for the fitting to come out.

Yeah it is a bear to get those in there.

Have you tried installing the small pipes first. There aint a whole lotta room in there.

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...ml#post8638857
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Old Jan 17, 2015 | 06:11 PM
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yea I have tried everything. I can get them to sit pretty decent without the downpipes, but once I try to put the downpipe on there is no way, Im wondering if this combo will even work. Most of these companies are out of business or mia so getting help or parts is tough...
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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 04:24 AM
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aam is back so they may still have the jigs.

You may have to get the pipes custom fabbed. which would really suck.
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yea I emailed aam to see if they would sell their dump pipes seperate. Hopefully I hear from them, i may try to call tomorrow. I really dont want to have them custom made, that will delay me big time and cost alot. Im hoping I can cut and re weld mine to make them work. The 350z part of the forum is half dead, all the threads and stuff on this the people, companies and pics are gone
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Old Jan 18, 2015 | 03:44 PM
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went ahead and mounted them, this is really the only way I see they can go...im just going to have to modify the downpipes, ie beat the **** out of them with a hammer to make room. I may get the torch out and try to bend them where they mate up with the turbo for some more room. Do you think denting the pipe will make a big difference in flow? I really dont see any other way.
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that looks right. Have you test fit the downpipes?

I wouldnt hammer them much since it will affect flow but i doubt it will matter with open dumps.
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Originally Posted by Cux350z
that looks right. Have you test fit the downpipes?

I wouldnt hammer them much since it will affect flow but i doubt it will matter with open dumps.
I test fit the passenger side, it def. wont make it. I will need to modify it in some way for sure. The driver side is having a bung welded in for my wideband, I should have it back tomorrow or so and I can check the driver but it honestly looks worse. Instead of hammering dents in it, do you think I should try to heat it up really hot and try to just bend them while they are bolted to the turbo? With the open dumps im hoping I can get by with the dents. this sucks its always something.
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Old Jan 19, 2015 | 02:50 PM
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Have an idea, what if I cut the downpipe ( red lines) and remove a slice ( yellow area) and then pull the pipe up to get my clearance, then re-weld it back?
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Old Jan 19, 2015 | 06:17 PM
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dude you crazy. leave your aam pipes alone and just fix the dump tube.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Cux350z
dude you crazy. leave your aam pipes alone and just fix the dump tube.
Too late! Took the grinder to them. Worked out pretty well, was able to bend them up and out away from the wastegate. Now just have to weld em back together The dump tubes really cant be moved anywhere except lengthened to be below the downpipes. That will be more difficult imo. I'll post some pics.

Cux, glad you said something about clocking the wastegate, I did that as well to keep the line from hitting the pipes.

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I have these same dumps and I'm pretty sure they are meant for the greddy test pipes they are smaller then the aam
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Old Jan 22, 2015 | 05:41 AM
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yea thats what I figured. I knew something was off. Do I have mine installed right? in post #9?
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Looks right from this thread this guy puts them on

http://www.**********.com/forums/964...?postid=964016
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350z - tech is the web site
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Old Jan 22, 2015 | 11:31 AM
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can you email me the link: evan139@gmail.com thanks
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Old Jan 24, 2015 | 06:47 PM
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just an update, im going to buy new pipes, tired of messing with these that wont fit. If anyone has a set or knows someones who is selling some or a good website to buy new, please pm me. Thanks
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