Turbonetics Single Turbo Kit..Pics/Videos
09-19-2004, 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by APS
Very interesting thread indeed. On the CARB EO issue I've been advised that the stock cats must be retained in the factory stock position in order to apply and test to the CARB emission standards..
Not taking anything away from the single turbo approach (it does have a certain appeal) though we all need to understand that this approach can not obtain a CARB EO under any circumstances.
Peter
Very interesting thread indeed. On the CARB EO issue I've been advised that the stock cats must be retained in the factory stock position in order to apply and test to the CARB emission standards..
Not taking anything away from the single turbo approach (it does have a certain appeal) though we all need to understand that this approach can not obtain a CARB EO under any circumstances.
Peter
09-19-2004, 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by MIAPLAYA
Actually the designer of this kit Jahm formerly of Fmax has made many of his other Nissan kits CARB legal in the past and I'm sure could find a way to make it work to get a cat on there and make it legal. I wouldn't flat out say its not possible. At least not without knowing what they are going to do first. They could merge the flow after the cats couldnt they?
Actually the designer of this kit Jahm formerly of Fmax has made many of his other Nissan kits CARB legal in the past and I'm sure could find a way to make it work to get a cat on there and make it legal. I wouldn't flat out say its not possible. At least not without knowing what they are going to do first. They could merge the flow after the cats couldnt they?
You can't remove the stock factory cats and then refit an aftermarket cat in the same or in a different position................this does not meet CARB's strict regulations.
Unless I've been completely mislead on this issue (and I don't believe this to be the case) it's impossible to gain an CARB EO for a single turbo, twin turbo, or supercharger kit that does not retain the STOCK cats in the STOCK position.
Maybe you could clarify this issue with the CARB...............the Information I have is only one week old.
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09-19-2004, 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by APS
From what I've been advised from the CARB the factory cats must be retained in the stock position.................and I mean the two original factory cats.
You can't remove the stock factory cats and then refit an aftermarket cat in the same or in a different position................this does not meet CARB's strict regulations.
Unless I've been completely mislead on this issue (and I don't believe this to be the case) it's impossible to gain an CARB EO for a single turbo, twin turbo, or supercharger kit that does not retain the STOCK cats in the STOCK position.
Maybe you could clarify this issue with the CARB...............the Information I have is only one week old.
Thanks
Peter
From what I've been advised from the CARB the factory cats must be retained in the stock position.................and I mean the two original factory cats.
You can't remove the stock factory cats and then refit an aftermarket cat in the same or in a different position................this does not meet CARB's strict regulations.
Unless I've been completely mislead on this issue (and I don't believe this to be the case) it's impossible to gain an CARB EO for a single turbo, twin turbo, or supercharger kit that does not retain the STOCK cats in the STOCK position.
Maybe you could clarify this issue with the CARB...............the Information I have is only one week old.
Thanks
Peter
09-19-2004, 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by MIAPLAYA
Not being the deisnger I will defer to allow Brad from Turbonetics answer this....
Not being the deisnger I will defer to allow Brad from Turbonetics answer this....
Thanks
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09-20-2004, 06:28 AM
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Originally posted by ColecatZ
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09-20-2004, 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by Juztin
thanks for sharing the vids MIA, it will be great if the kit does come out priced to compete with the Vortec. Can't wait to hear more about their system as they plan to release it.
thanks for sharing the vids MIA, it will be great if the kit does come out priced to compete with the Vortec. Can't wait to hear more about their system as they plan to release it.
09-20-2004, 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by MIAPLAYA
Beat you to it....how you like the kit....?
Beat you to it....how you like the kit....?
If it is in fact starting to generate boost at 3k, then that should make it perform like stock in everyday running around and only really stress the internals when I really want to stretch the legs. I usually shift around 3500-3800 in general run abouts. I prefer the big end pull over the peaky torque down low anyways. I will be watching for finalized dynos, but I’m pretty much sold as long as a few things get ironed out.
Thanks a ton for the vids and info, I can only imagine what it felt like.
09-20-2004, 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by ColecatZ
I like it a lot, actually. I personally feel that it will be the right combination for me. Since the 350 is N/A from the factory and has more than enough torque down low to get out of it’s own way in normal driving, it should make for a very launch able car with less work to maintain traction and still have the strong pull on the big end.
If it is in fact starting to generate boost at 3k, then that should make it perform like stock in everyday running around and only really stress the internals when I really want to stretch the legs. I usually shift around 3500-3800 in general run abouts. I prefer the big end pull over the peaky torque down low anyways. I will be watching for finalized dynos, but I’m pretty much sold as long as a few things get ironed out.
Thanks a ton for the vids and info, I can only imagine what it felt like.
I like it a lot, actually. I personally feel that it will be the right combination for me. Since the 350 is N/A from the factory and has more than enough torque down low to get out of it’s own way in normal driving, it should make for a very launch able car with less work to maintain traction and still have the strong pull on the big end.
If it is in fact starting to generate boost at 3k, then that should make it perform like stock in everyday running around and only really stress the internals when I really want to stretch the legs. I usually shift around 3500-3800 in general run abouts. I prefer the big end pull over the peaky torque down low anyways. I will be watching for finalized dynos, but I’m pretty much sold as long as a few things get ironed out.
Thanks a ton for the vids and info, I can only imagine what it felt like.
09-20-2004, 08:56 AM
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Looks pretty sweet. I couldn't get the videos to work tho...can someone host them or send them to me? erloberg@msn.com
I think this unit and APS's unit is pretty sweet. For me it's going to come down to passing emissions. I don't care about carb #'s as much as making sure it passes the sniff test. I need to be able to put those cat's on every other year.
I think this unit and APS's unit is pretty sweet. For me it's going to come down to passing emissions. I don't care about carb #'s as much as making sure it passes the sniff test. I need to be able to put those cat's on every other year.
09-20-2004, 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by DrVolkl
Looks pretty sweet. I couldn't get the videos to work tho...can someone host them or send them to me? erloberg@msn.com
I think this unit and APS's unit is pretty sweet. For me it's going to come down to passing emissions. I don't care about carb #'s as much as making sure it passes the sniff test. I need to be able to put those cat's on every other year.
Looks pretty sweet. I couldn't get the videos to work tho...can someone host them or send them to me? erloberg@msn.com
I think this unit and APS's unit is pretty sweet. For me it's going to come down to passing emissions. I don't care about carb #'s as much as making sure it passes the sniff test. I need to be able to put those cat's on every other year.
09-20-2004, 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by MIAPLAYA
I prefer to not have gut wrenching amounts tourqe coming up all at once EVERY day in traffic and stuff.
I prefer to not have gut wrenching amounts tourqe coming up all at once EVERY day in traffic and stuff.
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09-20-2004, 09:39 AM
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Any info available on fuel management?.....bigger injectors? for this kit???? I realize the TS reflash can control slightly larger injectors like the 380 's and timing......but what if we want to chase some big power???
09-20-2004, 09:45 AM
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Yes the kit comes with 380 CC injectors and Turbonetics has some 550CC injectors pending testing. They were going to put those in but since they are using the reflash to do their tuning there is no current way to scale back the 550s. With the 380cc injectors in, timing pulled via reflash they got 11.5:1 A/F across the board all the way to redline. I just left Brad from Turbonetics a voicemail to ask a couple of the questions I couldn't answer. Being the VP its hard for him to get on here much. For those who had questions I couldn't answer, I'm working on it.,.
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Originally posted by MIAPLAYA
Yes the kit comes with 380 CC injectors and Turbonetics has some 550CC injectors pending testing. They were going to put those in but since they are using the reflash to do their tuning there is no current way to scale back the 550s. With the 380cc injectors in, timing pulled via reflash they got 11.5:1 A/F across the board all the way to redline. I just left Brad from Turbonetics a voicemail to ask a couple of the questions I couldn't answer. Being the VP its hard for him to get on here much. For those who had questions I couldn't answer, I'm working on it.,.
Yes the kit comes with 380 CC injectors and Turbonetics has some 550CC injectors pending testing. They were going to put those in but since they are using the reflash to do their tuning there is no current way to scale back the 550s. With the 380cc injectors in, timing pulled via reflash they got 11.5:1 A/F across the board all the way to redline. I just left Brad from Turbonetics a voicemail to ask a couple of the questions I couldn't answer. Being the VP its hard for him to get on here much. For those who had questions I couldn't answer, I'm working on it.,.