well the dyno chart was right there in the open on the comp inside the shop and when I asked the owner of the shop what car put down those numbers he told me that it was the turbonetics Z.... He also mentioned that the kit itself was really gorgeous or something.

 

I can tell you from riding in it that the boost comes on around 3k and by 4k you are at full boost. The power band prior to 3k should look a lot like stock and then at around 3k it starts moving up quickly..

 

doesnt sound like a secret to me.

 

Can we pre-order????? I might be getting married and want to spend all my money before the wife put's my bank account on lock-down......

Naw im just joking.........but seriously....... the pre-order thing I mean...

I also have a spending disorder and might buy cam's

 

Any word on if there are any fuel system upgrades?? Upgraded pump and return line with regulator???

 

Just the 380 CC injectors and reflashed ECU that I know of. With this they managed to get an 11.5:1 A/F to redline.

 

My concern is if somebody purchases the kit and upgrades to a larger turbo and the larger 550 cc injectors mentioned earlier in the thread. For several members on the board, a 10-12 lb boost setting on their new forged internals would be a requirement. This is why I ask about the fuel system. I guess the AAM fuel system upgrade should be factored into the cost as well.

 

Not necesarily. I think gq was running higher numbers on his 440s ok with some scaling but no return line that I can remember. You would just need to add something to scale back the bigger injectors. AAM fuel system is an option that can be added on any kit. None of the turbo kits include a return or any complete return style fuel system.

 

APS does. And it allows their car to approach 10-12 lbs of boost with no fuel supply issues. For me it is a necessity for anything past 7-8 lbs of boost....just from looking at several A/F charts on boosted cars without a return system.

 

I wasn't aware the APS did until today. I guess you could add that to the Turbonetics kit price if you have forged internals and plan to boost A LOT more than the out of the box pressure. What is the cost of the APS and what is the cost of the AAM+Turbonetics?

 

APS twin turbo kit = $7495-7995
Turbonetics ( $4500-5000 ) plus AAM ( $995 ) = $ 5495-5995

 

Damn, I didnt realize the APS kit was that much...

 

sorry if this was already asked, i skimmed the first 6 pages....how are the collectors done for the exhaust side of the turbo? Do they cross underneath the motor?

 

No pics of it but if you look at this picture it kind of goes under but wraps around the motor...

 

For that much, mightest well get a greddy turbo for $5880 w/ intercooler. from these guy



http://www.hopupracing.com/grtd18gtwtuk.html

 

The Greddy kit does not include a full fuel system solution. The Greddy kit comes with the same style management out of the box as Turbonetics. Bigger injectors, ECU tuning. The AAM system is for people that want to up the boost high enough to require a fuel return and FPR. The would be above 8.5 PSI on this kit. At 8 PSI this kit make 409 RWHP. Safely.

 

MIAPLAYA do you have any more of those images you just posted from different angles? that was really helpful.

 

No unfortunately I do not. Try PMing Turbonetics s/n (Brad is his name) he may have some more for you. I will definitely get some at SEMA but that not for another month...

 

ok thanks.

 

The Greddy system also does "not" include a BOV and it requires removal the front bumper beam. Once you add the fuel system upgrade and BOV the intercooled Greddy costs in the ballpark of the APS. In addtion with the APS you get water cooled bb turbos (flowed for up to "800bhp") a very slick intercooler and a fuel system good for up to 12-14 psi operation. Also the OEM CATS can be retained is desired.

A "full return vs. return at the pump" based fuel system is not absoutely necessary for ~16-18 psi operation. Mostly larger injectors, and unichip re-tune are required.