Miaplaya, can you start a new thread when you start driving the car around with some new pics, etc etc? (perhaps you already are? I lost track in the 25+ pages).

Thanks and congrats on the kit. I'm leaning this way now.

-edit: make that 43+ pages

 

Yeah I will. I'll put up a new thread on driving impressions, dynojet numbers, etc...

 

Any updates???? I'm at the edge of my freaken seat. It's like I got to **** so bad, I can taste it.

 

Yeah my car is being tuned/street tuned. They will probably have it for about another week to make sure everything is driving good looking good on the dyno etc... But yeah the kit is on the car and the car is running.

 

That's great to hear. Have you gotten any more indication from Turbonetics as to when they think this kit will be publicly available?

Thanks!

 

Yeah i talked to them on Monday and they said the kits should be shipping in a couple weeks. They were waiting on two things injectors and the re-flash for 04 to be done. Oh and for the G35 owners some good news. The day my car rolls out of the shop for good. Brad's G35 rolls in for modification of the kit where needed to fit the Gs.

 

Absolutely awesome! Any chance they've agreed to the much desired tuner kit?

 

Our 350Z Turbo systems that fits the 03' - 04' cars will start being shipped by Feb. 25th. We have the 05' on the schedule.

The systems will be available with or without at CAT, the part numbers are as follows:
15134 350Z non-cat
15136 350Z w/cat

As we posted before, all the kits will come complete with:

-all stainless exhaust tubing both to and from the turbo,
-all aluminum black chromed boost tubes
-fuel pump, injectors, and the re-flash (mail in, price included)
-turbo, intercooler, wastegate, by-pass valve

Thanks for everybodies patients...I am sure you guys (& Gals) will be very happy with the finished product, it installs easily, it looks great and it hauls ***!

Please place your orders with your local dealers/distributors. you can check our web site for dealer locations www.turboneticinc.com

for the G35 guys out there, it's next...my car is becoming way too slow to drive after driving our Z around.

Brad

 

Brad, this is GREAT news....A few questions...

1. So there is an option to use this kit WITH the catalytic converters? What about the use of aftermarket, Hi-flow variants like Random-tech cats?

2. Any chance we can get a pic of the piping that is used w/ the cats?

3. What did the street price of this kit finally turn out to be?

4. Any chance of opting out of the re-flash at some discounted price?

5. Can you talk a little more about the use of the RE-flash and its' ability to account for things like temperature changes, etc. I ask because here in VA, we have 100 degree summers, and 20 degree (or colder) winters. I'm concerned about this choice of EMS being able to account for such temperature differences. I'm assuming that timing retard is a part of this solution? Since there is no 'tuning' of this solution, how does it account for other mods like aftermarket intake/exhaust, etc.?

6. Have you considered including a shielded CAS wire with the kit? There is so much information coming forward now about noisy CAS signals being a factor in the many dead F/I motors out there, it would be great to have this as part of the package (and probably relatively simple for you all to mass produce as part of the kit).

Really excited to hear that this kit is so close to ready. Big thanks to MIAPLAYA for answering 43 pages of thread. I hope he's been well compensated!

 

very cool

 

Brad,
I have a question that maybe you can answer....I know that few if any Turbo kits out there have a CARB EO number, however, not living in California, that's not a big concern for me. Here in Virginia, however, we are subject to an emissions test once every two years. Do you think that with a set of HF cats, the car would pass one of these sniffer tests? If not, and I'll have to get.....creative about getting inspected, is there ANY benefit to trying to run this thing w/ Cats on it, or is it best to ditch the cats and get the kit for use without them? Thanks!

 

Have you seen the latest issue of Turbo? They dyno the Turbonetics car on their Dynojet and come up with 365rwhp at 8psi.

I would have to say that my car is a very similar setup i.e. no cats and TS flash for engine management with of course the exception being the Greddy twin setup.

At 8psi I have dynoed at 411.5rwhp. Based on the only independent dyno for the Turbonetics kit it is at 365rwhp at 8psi. That is a 46rwhp difference at the same boost. Now I know you can't split hairs when it comes to cars dynoed on different machines at difference locations but 46rwhp is not splitting hairs. Not to mention the difference in low end TQ.

At 8psi there have been twin turbo cars making in the realm of 450rwhp. Mostly due to better tuning. But my TS reflash maps are very close to the maps that TS supplies for the Turbonetics kit. So the only real difference is the turbo set up.

I think the Turbonetics kit is good for what it is and at a good value but, let's be realistic, with similar setups it will always lag a twin setup. The Marketing guys have been careful to state the "out of the box” performance but, who is going to install a 5000.00 turbo kit on their car and call it done? Not anybody that really enjoys performance. Just bringing this up because the spin being put on this “out of the box” statement is at the least very misleading to someone who doesn’t know the facts.
Gary

 

Um so after one dyno you are the authority on what kind of power this kit can make? I have more then one dyno sheet that disagress with you. Oh and BTW there is no POSSIBLE way you know what kind of tuning is done on the Turbonetics reflash. Technosquare could not even give you that info as they have no idea either. Turbonetics bought the Techtom re-flash gear just like AAM and they do their own flashes and tuning. Technosquare is only involved in setting the injector scaling and governor removal features and providing a base tune. The actual tuning of A/F is done entirely by Turbonetics at Turbonetics shop. Before you start running your mouth you might want to do a little more research.

 

I think your taking this the wrong way. I just posted facts with the available information from the only non biased source so far. Which is not far from the dyno you have posted in the past when the reduced boost (8psi vs. 9psi) in taken into account.

This wasn't a contest of manhood or a personal attack which you jumped to.

I never claimed to be the authority on this kit or what its ultimate output is, but some facts can not be over looked. And I was just stating that on an even playing field it is not equal to a twin turbo setup as you alluded too in the original post I quoted.

With regard to the "Secret" tuning of the Turbonetics kit there is only so much you can do with mailbox tuning and limited octane. A/F is the easiest part of the tune it's the timing that makes power and you can't run on the edge with a mail box tune without breaking a few motors. Not something that anyone selling a kit will do.

Once again I will say that for the money it does well for its intended use. Sorry to upset you so.
Gary

 

no in my original post I NEVER said it was on the same playing field as a twin turbo. As a matter of fact i have always said that this kit fills a very nice gap between the TT kits and SC kits. It does do a VERY good job of hanging with the TT kits though. Thats what I said. And lets be honest what does a Greddy kit make as it is sent from Greddy 350-380. The dyno i have in PDF was at a 10:1 a/f which I'm sure even you can agree even at 9 PSI is not going to make as much power as it could at 11:1. The original dyno posted by Turbonetcs was at 8 PSI and a 11.5:1 a/f and made 386 WHP. They have made as much as 409 RWHP with a 11.5:1 A/F at 8.5 PSI. So why exactly is it that you don't think this kit performs well? Because ONE dyno showed 360? Come on. A 20 hp difference could most CERTAINly be affected be temps, dyno, etc. ESPECIALLY on a turbo car..

 

I did not say that you said that out right I said you have alluded to it in this statement:


True, at the stock setting of 5 to 5.6 psi.

Again I agree with you it will make more power at a 11:1 vs10:1 leaner setting but, not by a large margin.

I never said that it does not perform. The original post was that the spin being put on the kit by Turbonetics was misleading by using the catch phrase "out of the box" performance.

I quoted your post because you restated that information after GQ asked about it and I put up facts to show why it is misleading when put into that context. Again, it is what it is.

Sorry to have started this, I was trying to provide information to people interested in this, not to run them off but to give the whole picture.

It’s what I would want if I was looking at spending thousand of dollars on a part. I'm sure many will purchase this kit due to the great price point regardless.
Gary

 

Look dude I'm not going to play the insinuation game with you. You know exactly what I meant. This kit does hang very well as it is from Turbonetics. Yes the Greddy kit makes that power at 5.6 PSI which is how it comes from Greddy. This kit happens to come set at 8 PSI and makes more. Is it going to be the same power at the same boost level no...of course not. The kits are different. That is the point. Just as with the Greddy kit you could turn up the boost on this and make more. To each their own. If I mistook your intent I apologize but i am tired of people talking **** about something pre-release with no research having been done. Until others start installing and posting numbers I think it is pre-mature to make any assumption as to what this kit is or can do. I will be picking up my car this coming Friday (should be at least) and i will be sure to get to a Dynojet dyno to post my numbers within days of that. Until then i think it is safe to say that not all dynos are going to be the same and the basis for your argument lies in a total of ONE dyno test that clearly appears to have been incorrect.

 

7 eleven/Gary = Hater!!!

 

7 eleven thanks for your post on what Turbo Magazine's dyno numbers, it would be great to have more info from there dyno, what kind of dyno was used and what the A/F ration was. Also, what octane was used.

These things could easy tranlate to the 46 rwhp difference. MIAPLAYA, I would lighten up a bit. Good straight answers and questions to what 7 eleven posted is the best way to handle this. What will you say to the first person that blows there motor with the Turbonetics kit? Because that will happen.

 

Oh it will? Why is that? Has anyone blown an APS turbo motor? How bout HKS SC? No...maybe Stillen? Nope...Oh you must mean Ultimate Racing....oh yeah no again. Just because its Forced Induction doesn't mean someone is GOING to blow their motor. If the install is done right there should be no problems. If there are it would be my car or Turbonetics car who has them as these are the first two cars with the kit installed.