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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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$10,000 says that there will be a Turbonetics stock motor that blows. It's like murpheys law APS ($$$ R & D) and HKS (low boost and HP anyway) are still new. Stillen doesn't have our crappy plemums.

You really gotta lighten up, cause you come off as mean sometimes.

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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by basam350z
$10,000 says that there will be a Turbonetics stock motor that blows. It's like murpheys law APS ($$$ R & D) and HKS (low boost and HP anyway) are still new. Stillen doesn't have our crappy plemums.

You really gotta lighten up, cause you come off as mean sometimes.
I guess I just don't share your pessimism...
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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his point is, nothings ever perfect
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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Things can be not perfect without a gurantee of failure...
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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Just wondering, what would this turbocharger setup be capable of?

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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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About 650 RWHP at around 15-20 PSI...
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by MIAPLAYA
Look dude I'm not going to play the insinuation game with you. You know exactly what I meant. This kit does hang very well as it is from Turbonetics. Yes the Greddy kit makes that power at 5.6 PSI which is how it comes from Greddy. This kit happens to come set at 8 PSI and makes more. Is it going to be the same power at the same boost level no...of course not. The kits are different. That is the point. Just as with the Greddy kit you could turn up the boost on this and make more. To each their own. If I mistook your intent I apologize but i am tired of people talking **** about something pre-release with no research having been done. Until others start installing and posting numbers I think it is pre-mature to make any assumption as to what this kit is or can do. I will be picking up my car this coming Friday (should be at least) and i will be sure to get to a Dynojet dyno to post my numbers within days of that. Until then i think it is safe to say that not all dynos are going to be the same and the basis for your argument lies in a total of ONE dyno test that clearly appears to have been incorrect.
I understand you are a little worn down by alot of the negative attitude people have toward this kit.

I was posting the question and information in the most balanced manner possible with no negative intentions toward you due to your previous strong reactions to questions. The point is to provide both sides of the information, if you only get one side that information is pretty useless correct or not.

As far as breaking motors, it will happen but more than likely it will be when people start pushing beyond the "out of the box" tune. The reason kits listed above have yet to pop motors is due to the lack of ability to upgrade (HKS, Stillen) and the others are very new (APS) or very few units sold (Ulitmate Racing)

Keeptrying: I'm guessing your kidding?

basam350z:They did it on 91 octane on a Dynojet with A/F in the 11:1 to 11.5:1 for the whole time it was in boost. It's a nice flat line.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by 7 eleven
I understand you are a little worn down by alot of the negative attitude people have toward this kit.

I was posting the question and information in the most balanced manner possible with no negative intentions toward you due to your previous strong reactions to questions. The point is to provide both sides of the information, if you only get one side that information is pretty useless correct or not.

As far as breaking motors, it will happen but more than likely it will be when people start pushing beyond the "out of the box" tune. The reason kits listed above have yet to pop motors is due to the lack of ability to upgrade (HKS, Stillen) and the others are very new (APS) or very few units sold (Ulitmate Racing)

Keeptrying: I'm guessing your kidding?

basam350z:They did it on 91 octane on a Dynojet with A/F in the 11:1 to 11.5:1 for the whole time it was in boost. It's a nice flat line.
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Temperature and dyno calibration have a lot to do with it as well. Remember that in Socal its rarely a cool day. What were the environmentals.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by MIAPLAYA
Temperature and dyno calibration have a lot to do with it as well. Remember that in Socal its rarely a cool day. What were the environmentals.
While I'm no expert for sure, wouldn't they have posted SAE corrected numbers that are adjusted to represent readings at a standardized temperature, pressure, etc, which effectively nullifies these variances?
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 07:00 AM
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Originally posted by kcobean
While I'm no expert for sure, wouldn't they have posted SAE corrected numbers that are adjusted to represent readings at a standardized temperature, pressure, etc, which effectively nullifies these variances?
I'm not sure if they did or not but even SAE corrected numbers will not account for an exact measurement as it would have been had the temp been different. Don't believe me try it.... If some runs at 1/4 mile at lets 5k elevation with 100 degree weather after running it through the correction calculator I can guranteee it will not match what you run at sea level on a cooler day (all things being equal). Same thing for people who dyno at higher elevation or temp. The correction does not account pefectly. it will give you a good idea but a warm day can wreck havoc on a turbo cars numbers on a dyno especially if there was an insufficient cooling fan in front of the car. We're talking about 20 WHP which could most certainly be affected by temperature and dyno calibration. Like I said that test is going to be in question until there is another substantiated third party Dynojet Dyno to compare to. I will have one for you ASAP.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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From Brad's previous post, there will be two kits available? One compatible with Cats, the other without? If this is so, then there's gotta be different numbers on each kit, right? The only thing that makes me nervous is if the in-box tune is safe or not? I would be perfectly happy with a 380whp reliable car.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by thrifiddytt
From Brad's previous post, there will be two kits available? One compatible with Cats, the other without? If this is so, then there's gotta be different numbers on each kit, right? The only thing that makes me nervous is if the in-box tune is safe or not? I would be perfectly happy with a 380whp reliable car.
I think your nervousness about the "in-box tune" (or mail-in tune, as I like to call it) will aflict many folks considering this kit, which is why I was hoping that Turbonetics would offer a lower priced "tuner version" of the kit, but I guess we'll see how this all plays out.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by thrifiddytt
From Brad's previous post, there will be two kits available? One compatible with Cats, the other without? If this is so, then there's gotta be different numbers on each kit, right? The only thing that makes me nervous is if the in-box tune is safe or not? I would be perfectly happy with a 380whp reliable car.
I'm not sure what the numbers are with the cat. I asked them to leave mine catless but I know they were going to test both setups on my car...
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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I'm not sure what the numbers are with the cat. I asked them to leave mine catless but I know they were going to test both setups on my car...
I hope that Brad gets a chance to come back and answer my questions from my earlier post about the cats. Here in VA, we have a bi-annual emissions test. I'm wondering if the car would pass a sniffer test with the cats. If not, then there is really no point in keeping them is there?
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by kcobean
I hope that Brad gets a chance to come back and answer my questions from my earlier post about the cats. Here in VA, we have a bi-annual emissions test. I'm wondering if the car would pass a sniffer test with the cats. If not, then there is really no point in keeping them is there?
he doesn't come on here too much...I'll ask him next time I talk to him...
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Originally posted by MIAPLAYA
he doesn't come on here too much...I'll ask him next time I talk to him...
Thanks!
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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when are we going to know anything solid about this kit such as pricing and dyno numbers? also those videos at the first page of this thread are lame as hell. It doesnt even look like hes going over 4500rpms.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 05:13 AM
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newbie talkin smack. Read the thread fool.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by projectsherv
when are we going to know anything solid about this kit such as pricing and dyno numbers? also those videos at the first page of this thread are lame as hell. It doesnt even look like hes going over 4500rpms.
Hmmm lets see in the first video hes roasting the tires from second through fifth...I think he went well over 4500 RPMs champ. The rest of the video goes from hauling @ss to driving normal to show the car drives like a stock when off boost. When my car is back I'll have plenty videos for you alright sport. It helps to do a little research before posting some stupid comment there tiger. The car makes about 380 RWHP as it comes from Turbonetics. Kit includes:

Turbonetics 60-1 Stage 5 Ceramic Ball Bearing Turbo
Spearco Front Mount Intercooler
380 CC drop in injectors (no cutting and splicing, no replacing injector harness straight drop in plug in)
Walbro 255 LPH fuel pump
Turbonetics Evolution Wastegate
Turbonetics Raptor Blow Off Valve
All exhaust piping is mandrel bent Polished Stainless Stell
All intercooler piping is mandrel bent Powder Coated Black Chrome
Turbonetics custom tuned ECU (yours gets reflashed)
All required hardware (including v-band clamps for pipe connections)
One case of Turbonetics TS-1 Full synthetic High Performance Oil
12 month/12,000 mile warrantly on all turbo kit items (no fault no hassle)

Is that enough info for you booster. How bout some numbers. How bout 380 RWHP at a 11:1 A/F across the board from boost to redline. Let me know if you have any other questions alright chief.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by MIAPLAYA
Is that enough info for you booster. How bout some numbers. How bout 380 RWHP at a 11:1 A/F across the board from boost to redline. Let me know if you have any other questions alright chief.
You're car is back?

When are we going to meet up at a DynoJet?
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