21HP 19 FT Torque! On the 350Z
07-30-2005, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 3-fity
Gotcha, so they don't use the whole unit like most aftermarket intakes. Interesting....
07-30-2005, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 3-fity
I hope this turns out to be true, because that should put me over the 300whp NA. ::crossesfingers::
08-01-2005, 07:44 AM
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Im currently back in town and have been in communication with AFE. Im going to schedual a time possibly Monday or Tuesday if possible. I had a very busy weekend in vegas otherwise this would have been done earlier. I contacted AFE telling them im ready Monday so lets see what happends. Honestly I like the way business is being taken care of buy this company and trying to stand by their claims to the fullest extent. hell even a 5-7hp increase is good cheap bolton power.
08-01-2005, 07:55 AM
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Hey NissanSource
What intake do you have on your car currently? It would be very intresting to at the same dyno occasion compare:
1. Bone stock
2. JWT Popcharger
3. The aFe intake
4. Injen RD1986
5. Any other short ram system with a built in MAF socket
I guess 4 and 5 would be tricky to get hold of in such short notice.
Atleast some other cone filter as a comparision would be extremly intresting IMO
/Roger
What intake do you have on your car currently? It would be very intresting to at the same dyno occasion compare:
1. Bone stock
2. JWT Popcharger
3. The aFe intake
4. Injen RD1986
5. Any other short ram system with a built in MAF socket
I guess 4 and 5 would be tricky to get hold of in such short notice.
Atleast some other cone filter as a comparision would be extremly intresting IMO
/Roger
08-01-2005, 09:11 AM
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The car in particular that im going to be using is a bone stock 350z basic
Originally Posted by Roggan
Hey NissanSource
What intake do you have on your car currently? It would be very intresting to at the same dyno occasion compare:
1. Bone stock
2. JWT Popcharger
3. The aFe intake
4. Injen RD1986
5. Any other short ram system with a built in MAF socket
I guess 4 and 5 would be tricky to get hold of in such short notice.
Atleast some other cone filter as a comparision would be extremly intresting IMO
/Roger
What intake do you have on your car currently? It would be very intresting to at the same dyno occasion compare:
1. Bone stock
2. JWT Popcharger
3. The aFe intake
4. Injen RD1986
5. Any other short ram system with a built in MAF socket
I guess 4 and 5 would be tricky to get hold of in such short notice.
Atleast some other cone filter as a comparision would be extremly intresting IMO
/Roger
08-01-2005, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by nissansource
Im currently back in town and have been in communication with AFE. Im going to schedual a time possibly Monday or Tuesday if possible. I had a very busy weekend in vegas otherwise this would have been done earlier. I contacted AFE telling them im ready Monday so lets see what happends. Honestly I like the way business is being taken care of buy this company and trying to stand by their claims to the fullest extent. hell even a 5-7hp increase is good cheap bolton power.
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08-01-2005, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ZinMiami
No it won't. There is no conlusive proof nor does it make sense that the ECU can do this. What happens is that you may not get the full impact of the mods because the ECU's stock maps can't take 100% advantage of the mods like exhaust, intake, etc. A reflash with custome tuning can fix that.
These super mod negating ECU stories float around on every car board. Frankly some folks just endow the modern day ECU's with super magical powers they don't have.
They are just a computer with a program running in them that controls certain functions within pre-set parameters. Change the program, fix the limitations.
These super mod negating ECU stories float around on every car board. Frankly some folks just endow the modern day ECU's with super magical powers they don't have.
They are just a computer with a program running in them that controls certain functions within pre-set parameters. Change the program, fix the limitations.
08-01-2005, 02:16 PM
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BTW, aFe has gotten back to me and they have a kit on the way to me. I will certainly want to give it some time to see if the ECU makes any adaptations. I don't think anyone really cares what the car does in the first 100 miles.
Please be patient; it takes time for stuff to ship, install, settle in and then dyno, etc.
Please note that I am not dynoing on a bone stock Z. I have some mods on this car (I believe someone else is dynoing with a stock Z). I expect that some pre-existing mods is a more accurate reflection of what a Z owner will have who is interested in this.
-Mark
Please be patient; it takes time for stuff to ship, install, settle in and then dyno, etc.
Please note that I am not dynoing on a bone stock Z. I have some mods on this car (I believe someone else is dynoing with a stock Z). I expect that some pre-existing mods is a more accurate reflection of what a Z owner will have who is interested in this.
-Mark
08-01-2005, 02:56 PM
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My Intake Kit came in today
Lets get right to it.
First, it seems the vendor I got it from has old inventory. Mine had a little slip of paper that indicated that since this was one of the first 25 kits it came with a special air filter with a carbon fiber end cap versus just plain metal. That is my first issue since it seems that the latest versions of the kit ship with an open end cone which I believe is a better design versus a closed end. I'll deal with that in due time.
The kit itself came complete with everything needed to install and even included a free cleaning and recharge kit. The install is no biggy and would normally take about 30 minutes to do.
BUT............ There were some fitment issues. The heat shield/box needs a little modification with a hammer since a very sharp edge rests very solidly against a metal A/C line. I've heard of this with some other kits as well and read of a couple folks eventually sawing thru the pipe.
The rest of the install is ok. The next issue I encountered was that the hood clearance is not good. It will close but it will not sit flush withthe fender as the ither side does. A little tweaking helped but it's not 100%.
On the performance side, the car feels stronger off the line and pulls hard and fast. I did a number of different tests on the way home which was pre-install so that I would have a fresh recolection of how the car was. Is it 21HP worth of improvement, I gota say no. Sorry AFE. Then again my Z is not bone stock so I was not expecting such an increase.
Conclusion:
Considering the premium price for this kit, I would have expected a perfect fit which mine does NOT have. As for gains, it gave me something but I haven't tried any other intake so I don't know if it's giving anymore than another brand.
And lastly it does give the awesome sound that so many other folks have commented about with other aftermarket intakes.
Maybe AFE will read this and tell me why I am having the fitment problems. I guess I am stuck with the older style filter element since I didn't notice it wasn't the currently one pictured until after I modified the airbox and installed the whole kit. I doubt the vendor will take it back now.
First, it seems the vendor I got it from has old inventory. Mine had a little slip of paper that indicated that since this was one of the first 25 kits it came with a special air filter with a carbon fiber end cap versus just plain metal. That is my first issue since it seems that the latest versions of the kit ship with an open end cone which I believe is a better design versus a closed end. I'll deal with that in due time.
The kit itself came complete with everything needed to install and even included a free cleaning and recharge kit. The install is no biggy and would normally take about 30 minutes to do.
BUT............ There were some fitment issues. The heat shield/box needs a little modification with a hammer since a very sharp edge rests very solidly against a metal A/C line. I've heard of this with some other kits as well and read of a couple folks eventually sawing thru the pipe.
The rest of the install is ok. The next issue I encountered was that the hood clearance is not good. It will close but it will not sit flush withthe fender as the ither side does. A little tweaking helped but it's not 100%.
On the performance side, the car feels stronger off the line and pulls hard and fast. I did a number of different tests on the way home which was pre-install so that I would have a fresh recolection of how the car was. Is it 21HP worth of improvement, I gota say no. Sorry AFE. Then again my Z is not bone stock so I was not expecting such an increase.
Conclusion:
Considering the premium price for this kit, I would have expected a perfect fit which mine does NOT have. As for gains, it gave me something but I haven't tried any other intake so I don't know if it's giving anymore than another brand.
And lastly it does give the awesome sound that so many other folks have commented about with other aftermarket intakes.
Maybe AFE will read this and tell me why I am having the fitment problems. I guess I am stuck with the older style filter element since I didn't notice it wasn't the currently one pictured until after I modified the airbox and installed the whole kit. I doubt the vendor will take it back now.
08-01-2005, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by QuantumZ
BTW, aFe has gotten back to me and they have a kit on the way to me. I will certainly want to give it some time to see if the ECU makes any adaptations. I don't think anyone really cares what the car does in the first 100 miles.
Please be patient; it takes time for stuff to ship, install, settle in and then dyno, etc.
Please note that I am not dynoing on a bone stock Z. I have some mods on this car (I believe someone else is dynoing with a stock Z). I expect that some pre-existing mods is a more accurate reflection of what a Z owner will have who is interested in this.
-Mark
Please be patient; it takes time for stuff to ship, install, settle in and then dyno, etc.
Please note that I am not dynoing on a bone stock Z. I have some mods on this car (I believe someone else is dynoing with a stock Z). I expect that some pre-existing mods is a more accurate reflection of what a Z owner will have who is interested in this.
-Mark
I think it would be more accurate if you dyno'd, then put it on then Dyno'd again. All you need is 6 WOT runs down the street to re-calibrate.
It should be on the same day with the temps and humidity at the same level.
Right?
Originally Posted by ZinMiami
On the performance side, the car feels stronger off the line and pulls hard and fast. I did a number of different tests on the way home which was pre-install so that I would have a fresh recolection of how the car was. Is it 21HP worth of improvement, I gota say no. Sorry AFE. Then again my Z is not bone stock so I was not expecting such an increase.
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