O.K. so you think I'm a thief. I don't think I am alone in being confused as to the developmental process of this part. It started out as one thing, the highly touted Mrev+, and was replaced by another (++) without any comparison of the product/performance between. Is the later manifold actually better than the first? Where is a back to back dyno of the + versus the ++?

Does a ++ version even exist, or is this just "marketing"? Until we get an expaination of what each product is, who knows? Drink the coolaid if you want. I prefer facts.

 

Yes! I'm in marketing as well and while I can respect intellectual property, I don't think any additional sales will come from withholding information that will be posted soon after sale 1 anyway (and possibly with malice). In fact, it may have the opposite effect, as it creates an us vs. them situation with his core customer base as we start to see Motordyne as just another company vs. a passionate individual.

The sharing of information is at the core of many successful businesses right now and is in effect the ultimate advertising. Motordyne has met or exceeded the quality and customer service of it's competitors, but what has really set them apart IMO is the scientific methodology of their progress and development which up until now has been shared.

 

Bill, yes it does. It has been pretty detailed on here and G35Driver.com...The MREV V2 or MREV++ gets two additional intake ports hogged out for better air flow. Tony said there was no reason to do the other two b/c it was not giving positive gains.

 

sorry.THought I seen that posted some where else.

 

I heard Tony was a rocket Scientist so that's why you are used to the methodologies we are getting so far...

 

I think a measure of skepticism is healthy. I agree on the point of how do we know if it is real or counterfiet. Eventually these will end up in the my350 or g35driver marketplace or some unscrupulous peson will conterfiet them like they did with teh tein springs.

 

That said though I do not know Tony and would not even recognize him i a photo or on the street but based on his participation I have the utmost confidence that he is credible.

 

If your smart enough to know that this can be easily counterfieted. Then you should also be smart enough to know not to buy a MREV off of ebay or the marketplace.

$122 for me is a no-brainer.

 

But the question is, did the ++ make significant gains over the +? Is all of the extra porting work (I take your word for this) worth the effort?

The original post of this thread claimed very nice gains (seems like about 11 HP) and the recently posted dynos also seem to have produced a very comparable gain with the ++. Is the ++ a better manifold?

So many variables have been introduced that its pretty hard to do an objective evaluation.

 

Some of us worry about our fellow man you know.

 

What I have been saying to people is this...I am a drag racer so every C-hair of power counts b/c it equals 10ths and mph in the 1/4 mi...but if you are not a drag racer, and you already got an MREV+...I would call it a day and be happy with your two ported intake collectors and save the money and time of install, etc. Does that make sense?

If however, you have not done the MREV+ and you do or don't race the amount of power just for Passing on the highway or whatever is a no brainer like OCG35Coupe said...it's just to cheap a mod to pass up. And yes, I believe you are correct in that it was like 11 HP better..not to mention the torque being better.

I honestly wish that when Tony gets some time...and it wouldn't take too long for him and the moderators here and at G35driver.com to get together and make a sticky on WTF all the differences are b/t the MREV+ and the MREV++ including all dynoed RWHP gains in incremental steps so that everyone can see them at their leisure.

The one thing, and Tony is working on this thorugh an awesome incentive mentioned earlier, that a lot of us need to know is...what is the gain with a Crawford V5 upper Plenum, and the MREV+ and MREV++ with the 5/16th spacer...that is the million dollar question...b/c if it works better than just the MREV++ itself that would be a big benefit for all of us non revup engine guys/girls, never mind the investment protection for what the Crawford Plenums cost us all.

I hope all of that makes sense.

 

+1

 

so when is the groupbuy going to be out =)

 

Tony,

If not obvious from my post back on page 20, I'm in...

 

Uh...are you sure? I have MREV++ installed on my FX35. From personal observation and spoken conversation that's not true. Don't listen to speculation on the other site. Only ports 1 & 2 and other "areas" (excluding the other ports) are affected.

 

Amen. I have the Crawford plenum installed and the gains of the MREV-2 are of great interest. I unfortunately am unable to take advantage of Tony's awesome offer. I eagerly await someone taking Tony up on the offer and posting dynos of the Crawford/MREV-2 combo.

 

Interesting, which takes us back to the question, does the Mrev++ outperform the Mrev+?

 

Don't know but I shaved off .25 secs off my 0-60 time in a heavy-a$$ FX35 AWD with it compared to stock.

Check here for details: http://www.infinitifx.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9247

 

Oh, cmon. Its only about 1000 lbs heavier then a 350Z.

 

Uh...it's a little more than that. Last time I weighed my FX at the track it was 4600lbs. Have you weighed yours? Shaving off that much time in a heavier vehicle is a lot harder than on a Z and speaks to the power gains across the whole powerband with the MREV++ IMO.