Removed Stock Muffler...My Thoughts
#282
Originally Posted by jreiter
This is the part that intrigues me. Around town, I'm okay with loud. At full throttle and when driving hard, I'm okay with loud. When I'm on a long road trip cruising down the freeway, though, loud and droning is most definitely annoying. Are you saying it isn't any louder than stock when cruising at 70? (That'd be very surprising!)
#283
even if you are nailing it, youll notice the loudest sounds come out around the 4000rpm range. its just like the stock exhaust, because, well, it is the stock exhaust.
the sound is relative to load...and chances are if youre driving around town in 6th gear going 40mph, youll load the car to a higher level and more often as well. i don't feel like explaining it, mainly because i know that you know what im talking about.
like i said though, its definitely loudest at 4000-4500 rpm
the sound is relative to load...and chances are if youre driving around town in 6th gear going 40mph, youll load the car to a higher level and more often as well. i don't feel like explaining it, mainly because i know that you know what im talking about.
like i said though, its definitely loudest at 4000-4500 rpm
#284
Go for it
Man just do your thing, I will and I dont give a rats A what these people or anyone else thinks if i like it thats all that matters, take there opinions with a grain of salt.
Yea I got a Z big deal if I want to put a cereal box on the hood for a scoop i will and i dont care what you think
Yea I got a Z big deal if I want to put a cereal box on the hood for a scoop i will and i dont care what you think
#285
Originally Posted by napier2
Man just do your thing, I will and I dont give a rats A what these people or anyone else thinks if i like it thats all that matters, take there opinions with a grain of salt.
Yea I got a Z big deal if I want to put a cereal box on the hood for a scoop i will and i dont care what you think
Yea I got a Z big deal if I want to put a cereal box on the hood for a scoop i will and i dont care what you think
#287
Originally Posted by SBT
the sound is relative to load...and chances are if youre driving around town in 6th gear going 40mph, youll load the car to a higher level and more often as well. i don't feel like explaining it, mainly because i know that you know what im talking about.
I'm just a bit wary of new exhausts since I tend to do a lot of road trips, and some exhausts just drone like crazy right at the RPMs where the Z sits while cruising on the freeway. The Nismo exhaust I had for a while is a good example. Great sounding exhaust, loud when you want it but not terrible. The only problem was that thing filled the cabin with the most terrible drone right at about 75 mph on the freeway while cruising in 6th. Ugh. I've been wanting something a bit louder, but I just wanted to avoid the dreaded freeway drone.
Thanks for the info.
#289
Originally Posted by jreiter
Yeah, I get it. I tend to cruise around town in lower gears anyway, since my lightweight flywheel sounds terrible at low rpms.
I'm just a bit wary of new exhausts since I tend to do a lot of road trips, and some exhausts just drone like crazy right at the RPMs where the Z sits while cruising on the freeway. The Nismo exhaust I had for a while is a good example. Great sounding exhaust, loud when you want it but not terrible. The only problem was that thing filled the cabin with the most terrible drone right at about 75 mph on the freeway while cruising in 6th. Ugh. I've been wanting something a bit louder, but I just wanted to avoid the dreaded freeway drone.
Thanks for the info.
I'm just a bit wary of new exhausts since I tend to do a lot of road trips, and some exhausts just drone like crazy right at the RPMs where the Z sits while cruising on the freeway. The Nismo exhaust I had for a while is a good example. Great sounding exhaust, loud when you want it but not terrible. The only problem was that thing filled the cabin with the most terrible drone right at about 75 mph on the freeway while cruising in 6th. Ugh. I've been wanting something a bit louder, but I just wanted to avoid the dreaded freeway drone.
Thanks for the info.
for the price, you might as well try it out.
#294
Here are the numbers guys. In a nut shell, I'm neither impressed nor dissappointed. Since Ted from Scott Performance is no longer there and I was given the opportunity to get my car on a better dyno, I took my old numbers from Scott Performance to the new place and did a pretty decent comparison. Sorry, I didnt have a scanner to scan my slips in but below are the previous numbers and the new number with the Team Po' Folks exhaust.
2006 Base MT (w/ 1573 miles on motor, keep in mind the motor is still pretty tight and not broken in yet and has 20 inch rims on it with the JWT Pop charger.)
287 HP at 6400 RPMs
253 TQ at 4800 RPMs
These are the new Team Po' Folk numbers (w/ 10,017 miles on motor, keep in mind the motor is now broken in and should put out closer to stock rated Nissan manufacturer numbers since the bearings have broken in and are a bit looser than they were at the first dyno pull. Still same setup with 20's and JWT Popcharger and now introducing the Team Po' Folks exhaust.)
298 HP at 6400 RPMs
258 TQ at 4800 RPMs
Ending Summary: Given the fact that I am running with 20 inch rims, The lower than stock numbers are expected. Everyone knows bigger rims reduce your numbers, but thats ok. If you do the math, given the fact that bigger rims reduce your numbers about 10 HP, the combonation of the JWT Popcharger and the Team Po' Folks exhaust has put me over the 300 HP mark that Nissan suggests from the factory. You also have to consider the fact that the motor is now broken in but should still only be around 300 HP. If you do the math and add back the loss for the 20 inch wheels, I am on or around 310 HP.
With this said, the mild gains from this exhaust are just that.....mild. The sound factor however, far outweighs the gain as well as the price. For 100 buxs, you can't go wrong.
What do you think?
2006 Base MT (w/ 1573 miles on motor, keep in mind the motor is still pretty tight and not broken in yet and has 20 inch rims on it with the JWT Pop charger.)
287 HP at 6400 RPMs
253 TQ at 4800 RPMs
These are the new Team Po' Folk numbers (w/ 10,017 miles on motor, keep in mind the motor is now broken in and should put out closer to stock rated Nissan manufacturer numbers since the bearings have broken in and are a bit looser than they were at the first dyno pull. Still same setup with 20's and JWT Popcharger and now introducing the Team Po' Folks exhaust.)
298 HP at 6400 RPMs
258 TQ at 4800 RPMs
Ending Summary: Given the fact that I am running with 20 inch rims, The lower than stock numbers are expected. Everyone knows bigger rims reduce your numbers, but thats ok. If you do the math, given the fact that bigger rims reduce your numbers about 10 HP, the combonation of the JWT Popcharger and the Team Po' Folks exhaust has put me over the 300 HP mark that Nissan suggests from the factory. You also have to consider the fact that the motor is now broken in but should still only be around 300 HP. If you do the math and add back the loss for the 20 inch wheels, I am on or around 310 HP.
With this said, the mild gains from this exhaust are just that.....mild. The sound factor however, far outweighs the gain as well as the price. For 100 buxs, you can't go wrong.
What do you think?
#296
Originally Posted by SBT
where did you get those numbers? are they dynapack #s? seem high for whp figures (obviously).
#298
Originally Posted by smokedout350z
i was about to say...those bettter b flywheel numbers....damm..hmm...probably the exhaust is just a sound factor
#299
Originally Posted by SBT
most likely...and like i said (if you go back to page 1), i never expected a gain or loss...just a ****ing great sound