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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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LMAO. Why would you? If you got 6k to put in a cat-back you should not be driving a Nissan. BTW if anyone needs a loan for this let me konw....info below. LOL!
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cubu
i thought the amuse was full titanium...
Originally Posted by Andy@Performance
The muffler is full titanium but the mid pipe as well as the optional y-pipe is stainless.
Originally Posted by Volk350Z
Nope.. I had one before.. piping is Stainless Steel and the muffler is not full titanium either..
Sorry i'm confused now... So which one is right?
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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Buy a regular exhuast, for 1200 and save weight somewhere else.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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Mad JDM...........
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
First off yes I have seen ARC finish products and am well aware of what they do. Secondly if the OP had posted this was a proto I never would have asked the question. Third given my point that no one except you knew it was a prototype I am perfectly correct in questioning that. Considering the recent quality issues on HKS exhaust systems (see the H pipe thread if you don't follow that) every consumer should know full well what they are getting before they part with their money. $6000+ for an exhaust is STEEP even for ARC. If they didn't want educated consumer to question them then they shouldn't release prototype photos to their vendors for public release. And as an FYI I could pick up two of those exhausts today but that money is ear marked for the track car i'm building...
Well I personally haven't heard of any ARC welding problem so when you were talking $Hit about their weld then of course I will reply back. The only reason why arc made this exhaust is Shadow Motorsports ask them to, not really intended for anyone to really buy it. Just to show people they can make it if you really want one.

FYI this is the only True Dual Full Titanium Exhaust on the market for the Z
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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also these exhaust is made by ARC for Dixis (jdm BMW tuner) M3 & M5

The M5 exhaust MSRP for 5880.00 and these sell out pretty fast.



M3 rear section only msrp for 2800.00
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Volk350Z
Well I personally haven't heard of any ARC welding problem so when you were talking $Hit about their weld then of course I will reply back. The only reason why arc made this exhaust is Shadow Motorsports ask them to, not really intended for anyone to really buy it. Just to show people they can make it if you really want one.

FYI this is the only True Dual Full Titanium Exhaust on the market for the Z

I dont think he was talking sheit! He was pointing out that, knowone but you, knew that this was a prototype. This should have been noted in the beginning, so there wouldnt have been any assumptions or confusions.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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I still cant believe that **** is 7g
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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For the million time how much dose it weight????
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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I would seriously rock the ARC exhaust ... but I'm too busy buying new wheels every 3 months!
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Volk350Z
Well I personally haven't heard of any ARC welding problem so when you were talking $Hit about their weld then of course I will reply back. The only reason why arc made this exhaust is Shadow Motorsports ask them to, not really intended for anyone to really buy it. Just to show people they can make it if you really want one.

FYI this is the only True Dual Full Titanium Exhaust on the market for the Z
Maybe you should go back and read my post again. Did I say their welds were crap? Nope I didn't. What did I say?
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they didn't even weld the entire seam. Sure it may not need to be but for $6000+ they better weld the entire portion inside and out...
That in NO way implies their welds were not good. What that does state is that for $6000 I would hope they would weld the entire seem inside and out. I'm sure in the production version they might. But since neither you or anyone else mentioned it was a prototype prior to my post the only logical assumption I and every other educated consumer here could draw was that this was the production system. I'll repeat again, for a production unit in which I'm spending $6,000 I would want the seams welded inside and out not just tack welded. Is that too much to ask for at a $6,000 price tag?

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Maybe you should go back and read my post again. Did I say their welds were crap? Nope I didn't. What did I say?
That in NO way implies their welds were not good. What that does state is that for $6000 I would hope they would weld the entire seem inside and out. I'm sure in the production version they might. But since neither you or anyone else mentioned it was a prototype prior to my post the only logical assumption I and every other educated consumer here could draw was that this was the production system. I'll repeat again, for a production unit in which I'm spending $6,000 I would want the seams welded inside and out not just tack welded. Is that too much to ask for at a $6,000 price tag?

Agreed x10
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Maybe you should go back and read my post again. Did I say their welds were crap? Nope I didn't. What did I say?
That in NO way implies their welds were not good. What that does state is that for $6000 I would hope they would weld the entire seem inside and out. I'm sure in the production version they might. But since neither you or anyone else mentioned it was a prototype prior to my post the only logical assumption I and every other educated consumer here could draw was that this was the production system. I'll repeat again, for a production unit in which I'm spending $6,000 I would want the seams welded inside and out not just tack welded. Is that too much to ask for at a $6,000 price tag?
lol.. you can't seams welded the inside of any EXHAUST.. if you weld the inside of any piping it will effect the flow...

well if you said that you know and see arc welding before then why would you even state "for $6000 I would hope they would weld the entire seem inside and out.".. pretty much any one that Know ARC parts know that all ARC weld is perfect and never half A$$..

Well I'll ask Andy to add on a note of his post that the pix is a prototype....

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by turismo
I dont think he was talking sheit! He was pointing out that, knowone but you, knew that this was a prototype. This should have been noted in the beginning, so there wouldnt have been any assumptions or confusions.
if you don't know wouldn't you just ask??? or do you just assumpptions??
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Volk350Z
lol.. you can't seams welded the inside of any EXHAUST.. if you weld the inside of any piping it will effect the flow...

well if you said that you know and see arc welding before then why would you even state "for $6000 I would hope they would weld the entire seem inside and out.".. pretty much any one that Know ARC parts know that all ARC weld is perfect and never half A$$..

Well I'll ask Andy to add on a note of his post that the pix is a prototype....
If you are a truely talented fabricator you can weld both inside and out and not affect flow. Are you really going to tell me the minute amount of material added to the inside of the piping is going to affect flow so drastically it will make a difference? If so then you chose the wrong size piping to begin with. Secondly if you weld the inside portion and then grind it down it would add maybe a few thou of material overall and not affect flow whatsoever. Hell my $598 Apexi WS2 exhaust was welded inside and out... Just becuase other ARC parts are high quality doesn't mean I can't question something in a publicly release picture. HKS has proven their quality to me several times over the years and is part of the reason I run their coilovers. Does that mean no one should check their other products? Their LS+ coilovers have been great on my car but their fabrication on their recent batch of TD exausts was garbage. I don't care who the company is. If I see something questionable being sold for top dollar I'm going to call it out. You act likes its a sin to say anything bad about ARC. Not everyone is perfect. That includes HKS, Greddy, ARC, Top Secret, or any other company out there. The bottom line is they could just weld the entire exterior seam and make me happy. But the photo showed TACK welds. What part of that don't YOU get. If the post said it was proto I never would have said a word. But it was spoken of like a released product.

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Volk350Z
if you don't know wouldn't you just ask??? or do you just assumpptions??
I don't have to ask. The picture was posted as if it was a generally released product. No mention was made to the contrary until you went on the offensive. Considering the recent drop in quality of other companies that traditionally showed nothing but the best in their products the consumer should question everything. Anyone paying or considering paying $6000 for any car part has the right to assume or question anything they want about the company they are going to spend money with. Especially if there is some questionable items in the only released pictures available. Stop pertending everyone is attacking ARC. They aren't infallible either.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
I don't have to ask. The picture was posted as if it was a generally released product. No mention was made to the contrary until you went on the offensive. Considering the recent drop in quality of other companies that traditionally showed nothing but the best in their products the consumer should question everything. Anyone paying or considering paying $6000 for any car part has the right to assume or question anything they want about the company they are going to spend money with. Especially if there is some questionable items in the only released pictures available. Stop pertending everyone is attacking ARC. They aren't infallible either.
+1 I have to agree with what MIA is saying. $6800 for an exhaust I'm even going to question if the ARC labels are symmetrical and if they're heat resistant
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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Damn, My full titanium from veilside was just around $950. I'll sheck to see what is up at ARC in Japan. That has to be one of the lightest systems for the Z though. As for the welding I know most great welders weld the inside of the flange to keep any serious flow issues with the exhaust gases. Not the inside of the piping. On Titanium a double welded seam would create a brittle zone prone to possible cracks when cooling. My exhuast goes from 900C to 30c in just under 2 minutes. Its awsome when changing fluids. Put the car on the lift and use the bathroom, and bam nice and cool.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JDMFairladyZ33
Hmmm...turbo kit or this exhaust....hmmm...let me see..can't decide..

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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Is this for 2007 Z? Dual intake matches dual exhaust.
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