Berk High flow cats installed
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Berk High flow cats installed
My setup before the cats went in:
MD 5/16 spacer
TurboXS catback
UTEC
Install: Honestly the install was not as bad as I thought it would be. With a breaker bar, some extensions, good wrenches, and creativity one could easily loosen all the bolts in no time. The major problem I had was to remove the actual catalytic converter from the manifold and Y-pipe. I ended up unbolting the Y-pipe from the B-pipe and then sliding the cats out. The cat/manifold gaskets were in excellent condition so I re-used them. I went to Pep boys and got some metal-rubber gaskets for the Y-pipe/cat connection. The Berk cats fit with no problem and everything lined up perfectly.
Driving impressions: On first startup, me and my wife immediately noticed the increase in sound. Much deeper and mean sounding The car pulls like a banshee and is so smooth to redline. I honestly was not expecting a noticeable gain from these cats. In fact, the gains I felt were similar to the gains I felt with the 5/16" spacer.
I have the UTEC installed and will try running the base map to see if I can get a little more power, but I am not getting tuned until the Vortech is on. As for CEL, 60 miles and no problems so far.
For $315 shipped, these cats were well worth it!
MD 5/16 spacer
TurboXS catback
UTEC
Install: Honestly the install was not as bad as I thought it would be. With a breaker bar, some extensions, good wrenches, and creativity one could easily loosen all the bolts in no time. The major problem I had was to remove the actual catalytic converter from the manifold and Y-pipe. I ended up unbolting the Y-pipe from the B-pipe and then sliding the cats out. The cat/manifold gaskets were in excellent condition so I re-used them. I went to Pep boys and got some metal-rubber gaskets for the Y-pipe/cat connection. The Berk cats fit with no problem and everything lined up perfectly.
Driving impressions: On first startup, me and my wife immediately noticed the increase in sound. Much deeper and mean sounding The car pulls like a banshee and is so smooth to redline. I honestly was not expecting a noticeable gain from these cats. In fact, the gains I felt were similar to the gains I felt with the 5/16" spacer.
I have the UTEC installed and will try running the base map to see if I can get a little more power, but I am not getting tuned until the Vortech is on. As for CEL, 60 miles and no problems so far.
For $315 shipped, these cats were well worth it!
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I assume you installed the ceramic cats?
I want to order a set of these but I am trying to decide between the ceramic and the metallic.
I have a Borla TD now and I like the way it sounds. I could stand it being a bit louder but I don't want it to be too loud.
I want to order a set of these but I am trying to decide between the ceramic and the metallic.
I have a Borla TD now and I like the way it sounds. I could stand it being a bit louder but I don't want it to be too loud.
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I assume you installed the ceramic cats?
I want to order a set of these but I am trying to decide between the ceramic and the metallic.
I have a Borla TD now and I like the way it sounds. I could stand it being a bit louder but I don't want it to be too loud.
I want to order a set of these but I am trying to decide between the ceramic and the metallic.
I have a Borla TD now and I like the way it sounds. I could stand it being a bit louder but I don't want it to be too loud.
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I am not getting test pipes. I don't want to deal with the smell, cel, rasp, etc. If I get anything it will be high flow cats.
I've done a ton of reading and I've read that metallic cats are suppose to be more reliable. Whether that is true or not I don't know. I also read that metallic cats should flow better which should help to increase power. I'm sure it makes a very small difference on a N/A car but the metallics "should" give more power. My question is how much louder will they be compared to the ceramic.
I've done a ton of reading and I've read that metallic cats are suppose to be more reliable. Whether that is true or not I don't know. I also read that metallic cats should flow better which should help to increase power. I'm sure it makes a very small difference on a N/A car but the metallics "should" give more power. My question is how much louder will they be compared to the ceramic.
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Originally Posted by jonnylaw
Aftermarket mettalic cores last longer than ceramic core.
Does that sound right? I am about to order a set and I don't want to kick myself down the road if the ceramic cats fail. It is $100.00 more for the metallics. I need to decide what to get before they aren't on sale anymore....
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that's why I said AFTERMARKET mettallic. The oem is ceramic and will outlast both aftermarket cores. Aftermarket mettalic cores outlast aftermarket ceramic cores but not oem. Mettalic cores also sound a bit different than ceramics. I am n/a and chose mettalic ones.
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The stock cats are ceramic. Beeker if you are really concerned I say just get the metal cats. The piping diameter is the same on both versions just the catalytic material is different. BTW, I chose NOT to get the cat section polished and they look great, I think all polished is overkill.
Bugsbbunny, after I initially installed I smelled burnt rubber from many WOT adventures and the smell of new gaskets. I did NOT smell any "fuel" smell.
I'll try to make a clip and post here. My turboXS just sounds angry now
Bugsbbunny, after I initially installed I smelled burnt rubber from many WOT adventures and the smell of new gaskets. I did NOT smell any "fuel" smell.
I'll try to make a clip and post here. My turboXS just sounds angry now
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sound clip? I'm thinking about the Berk metallic HFCs and Turbo XS exhaust for my HR. Concerned about the ID of the cats though...they are stock inner diameter right? Wondering if I should go with 2.5in hfcs paired with a turbo xs exhaust because the turbo xs y pipe inlet is 2.5 inch I believe, and I'd like to have optimal flow...and maximized gains.. Have to get to 300rwhp before my Revup buddy. lol
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sound clip? I'm thinking about the Berk metallic HFCs and Turbo XS exhaust for my HR. Concerned about the ID of the cats though...they are stock inner diameter right? Wondering if I should go with 2.5in hfcs paired with a turbo xs exhaust because the turbo xs y pipe inlet is 2.5 inch I believe, and I'd like to have optimal flow...and maximized gains.. Have to get to 300rwhp before my Revup buddy. lol
For the price, the Berk cats were an excellent choice. If you already have the TurboXS exhaust, the tone is exactly the same only 2X as loud at WOT. The Berk cats also seem to be doing great with my Vortech setup.
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ok we're talking about metallic and ceramic HFC and how much longer the metallics will last as compared to the ceramics. My question is, how long are the HFCs supposed to last? Approximately how many miles? (If reg driving)
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Originally Posted by scmtkings4
ok we're talking about metallic and ceramic HFC and how much longer the metallics will last as compared to the ceramics. My question is, how long are the HFCs supposed to last? Approximately how many miles? (If reg driving)
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