Advanced Resonance Tuning (ART pipes)
03-25-2010, 10:04 PM
#181
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You didn't miss them. I'm still waiting on them too. Another set was sent out recently for a test pipe comparison.
Most of the people ordering them currently have aftermarket cats.
I think part of the attraction of the people with aftermarket cats is the option to gain more power without the super loudness of regular test pipes.
As all the dynos show so far, ARTs gain 10WHP over test pipes or HFCs.QUOTE]
I totally understand what he is saying and im still not sold on them as i have not seen a comparison to test pipes..where have u seen a comparison from test pipes to art pipes? maybe i missed it somewhere
I totally understand what he is saying and im still not sold on them as i have not seen a comparison to test pipes..where have u seen a comparison from test pipes to art pipes? maybe i missed it somewhere
Most of the people ordering them currently have aftermarket cats.
I think part of the attraction of the people with aftermarket cats is the option to gain more power without the super loudness of regular test pipes.
03-26-2010, 01:48 AM
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Well for my 06 Z i have stock cats.. on monday ill be calling motordyne to order the 5/16 spacer along with the MREV2.... and of coarse the ART PIPE....plus my HKS EXAUST is on the way....... again my car is stock for now so after all these are installed... wonder how much power ill gain
03-26-2010, 05:25 AM
#183
Yes, if you already have a good tune with all your other mods and then install the ART pipes, it won't affect the A/F all that much.
Of course it would be better with a new tune, but it is not necessary if your engine is already running healthy.
Its when your car is already running lean that adding breather mods can show less gains.
I've seen many times how a well tuned engine Vs a poorly tuned take to mods. Its predominantly the lean engines that don't do well with NA mods.
Of course it would be better with a new tune, but it is not necessary if your engine is already running healthy.
Its when your car is already running lean that adding breather mods can show less gains.
I've seen many times how a well tuned engine Vs a poorly tuned take to mods. Its predominantly the lean engines that don't do well with NA mods.
In other words ART pipes 9-10 whp over tp's and with tune +/- 3-4 whp Maybe???
03-26-2010, 09:37 AM
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You're right, there aren't any. I thought there were. But, considering TPs and HFCs dyno almost the same amount of power (maybe 2-3HP diff.)...I doubt there'll be that much of a difference between the dynos we get now. I'm certain that the ART Pipes will still dyno the same torque levels (~20WTQ) and power (~10WHP).
03-26-2010, 09:58 AM
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You're right, there aren't any. I thought there were. But, considering TPs and HFCs dyno almost the same amount of power (maybe 2-3HP diff.)...I doubt there'll be that much of a difference between the dynos we get now. I'm certain that the ART Pipes will still dyno the same torque levels (~20WTQ) and power (~10WHP).
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03-26-2010, 10:08 AM
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im really waiting for results that someone supercharged will have with them but dont see that happening and im not gonna be first, lol..
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03-26-2010, 11:17 AM
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with my vortech , but my point is that it was with zero tuning and on the same tune as the high flow cats were on..I expect the art pipes to make more power than normal test pipes but if its just a few hp then i dont see it worth it to me, but for someone who has high flows or stock cats then i can understand..guess we will have to wait to see results compared to test pipes..
im really waiting for results that someone supercharged will have with them but dont see that happening and im not gonna be first, lol..
im really waiting for results that someone supercharged will have with them but dont see that happening and im not gonna be first, lol..
For NA application, this will yield different results over HFCs or TPs, vs. FI results.
03-26-2010, 12:44 PM
#194
Well, since you're FI and your experiences in switching were while you were FI already, you need to hold out on someone like you does the same thing and swaps from TPs to ARTs. Right now, you're looking at apples and oranges.
For NA application, this will yield different results over HFCs or TPs, vs. FI results.
For NA application, this will yield different results over HFCs or TPs, vs. FI results.
03-26-2010, 12:52 PM
#195
...It isnt convenient for me to get on a dyno thats why i am waiting for someone to test them who at least already has test pipes either n/a or F/I but F/I would be better so please do let me know if anyone comes thru and tests them..My tuner and dyno is 4 and half hours from me
I dont even have a local dyno to get on and compare the numbers without tuning..If or when i do the art pipes i want to know they are tested and proven and know what to expect and i will be tuning for them when they are installed
03-26-2010, 03:28 PM
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I'd love to test these out and do a comparison against my non-resonated test pipes, with or without nitrous but I just don't have the funds at the moment. 
I'm still waiting patiently for the test pipe comparisons, though.
I'm still waiting patiently for the test pipe comparisons, though.
03-27-2010, 03:11 AM
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lol when you are ready for a hr comparison let me know. give me a week notice so i can take some vacation time to drive to forged. ill swap it all in the parking lot on jackstands no need to pay someone so much for something so easy to change =D. ill even order a set of test pipes to do the comparison between all 3. stock cats, test pipes, and art pipes.