Brake Bleeding
Just installed my Stop Tech BBK last week and used a new brake bleeder I got from Motive products that made the job sooo much easier. You can see it at www.motiveproducts.com and buy direct from them or from Summit Racing PN MVP-0107, for the same price of $55.00. If you get the three prong Ford model it fits right on the 350Z master cylider. Three prong meaning the three locking tabs on your master cylinder. I was able to use the same bleeder on my wife's F-150 and my car. All you have to do is attatch the cap from the bleeder to your car, add brake fluid (up to 2 quarts) to the bottle and hand pump to 10-15 psi. then just move from one wheel to the next to bleed each wheel. Now when I finished the pedal felt good but after reading Dave Zeckhausen's article on brake bleeding he says to make sure you get every little air bubble out of the system you need to do it the old fashioned way by having someone pump the pedal while you open the bleeder screws.If you are installing a BBK or flushing out the old fluid to replace with Motul this tool works great.
I installed my Stoptech BBK and did no pedal pumping. I used my Craftsman vaccum bleader and did the entire car twice. You just hook it up to the bleeder and pump till you see no more bubbles then while the fluid is coming out you tighten the bleeder back up making sure no air gets in. I did all 8 bleeders then hit the calipers with a rubber malet to release any air bubbles that got stuck and did all 8 bleeders again per the Stoptech instructions.
I second on the Motive Power Bleeder. If you get the right adaptors you can do ANY car, brake or clutch. Also try http://www.apexperformance.net/ they have great prices.
No, you don,t need to pay good money for a job that is so simple to do. Two guys I work with at Boeing were so impressed with the Motive bleeder that they had me order ones for them when I ordered mine. Only one has used his so far and like myself he loves it.
Last edited by RKnight; Jul 12, 2005 at 12:31 AM.
which one did you buy it?
if you don't mind can you post link of the exact item you ordereD?
(i would trust boeing people)
thanks in advance.
if you don't mind can you post link of the exact item you ordereD?
(i would trust boeing people)
thanks in advance.
Originally Posted by RKnight
No, you don,t need to pay good money for a job that is so simple to do. Two guys I work with at Boeing were so impressed with the Motive bleeder that they had me order ones for them when I ordered mine. Only one has used his so far and like myself he loves it.
www.motiveproducts.com/02bleeders.html model #0106-7 Custom Ford Power Bleeder and choose the three prong under Adapter.
Last edited by RKnight; Jul 12, 2005 at 11:40 PM.
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Old topic but I am looking at getting a power bleeder as well. So you didn't go with the IMPORT model power bleeder? Just wanted to be sure that the Ford was it or if you got it for convenience since you mentioned you had another Ford vehicle. Also does anyone have any idea if this will fit for the Brembo brake setup? I am not sure if they have different fluid reserviors that might make fit different. Thanks!
The sport comact kit has a cover that you attach to the master cylinder with a short piece of chain and two J bolts. The ford kit I mentioned wil fit if you still have the OEM master cyl..
Thanks for the info! Any idea if this fits other Nissans as well. They didn't have many models in their application guide. I've also got a 2000 Sentra which I hope I can use it on. I guess I'll have to go measure the cover...
How does this work if you change your brake lines to stainless steel? From what I gather, a person drains all the fluid out of the system, installs the lines, and then adds the fluid back in. Does the fluid move through the system prior to bleeding the brakes or can this technique be used with the Motive Power Bleeder by simply filling the fluid into the container and pressurizing it?
Thanks!
Thanks!
That is what the power bleeder does best is filling the system back up after installing new lines(or changing to a high perf brake fluid) because the bleed container holds a lot of fluid (I think it's 2 qts) so you don't have to keep refilling the master cyl. as you bleed.
Even though you pump up the container to 10 psi the fluid moves slowly thru the lines as you bleed. Dave Zeckhausen at Zeckhausen.com suggests that even if you do use a power bleeder you should do the old pedal pump bleed afterwards because when you do, the fluid is under much higher pressure and that sudden gush of fluid thru the system is better at flushing out bubbles that may cling to the surfaces inside the caliper.
Even though you pump up the container to 10 psi the fluid moves slowly thru the lines as you bleed. Dave Zeckhausen at Zeckhausen.com suggests that even if you do use a power bleeder you should do the old pedal pump bleed afterwards because when you do, the fluid is under much higher pressure and that sudden gush of fluid thru the system is better at flushing out bubbles that may cling to the surfaces inside the caliper.
Last edited by RKnight; Mar 28, 2006 at 11:23 PM.
What pressure you guys using on the motive gauge. I was not impressed with the amount of flow out of the bleeder, but extremely impressed by the fit of the cap and the ease of doing a flush.
Does anyone know which adapter is needed for a 2005 Ford Mustang GT? I have this Motive bleeder, and the 3 prong adapter fits my Z fine but it does not fit on the Mustang.
The 3 prong adapter (# 0107 I think) is larger than the master cylinder mouth.
Thanks....
The 3 prong adapter (# 0107 I think) is larger than the master cylinder mouth.
Thanks....
Last edited by Morris; Oct 3, 2007 at 02:43 PM.
So with this pump, does it make bleeding the brakes a one person job?
I imagine you still need 2 people to get any remaining air bubbles out though but can you get the majority of it bled by yourself with this pump?
I imagine you still need 2 people to get any remaining air bubbles out though but can you get the majority of it bled by yourself with this pump?
If you are installing a bbk or anything that involves replacing the lines and introduce a good amount of air into the system I would still suggest the old fashioned two man bleeding method as Dave Zeckhausen suggested. This ensures you get out all of the air bubbles. The Motive really works great if you need to push old fluid out and get new fluid in or if you just need to do a quick bleed before and after a track day. That's what I bought it for.
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