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Old Jul 30, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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Ive got an 03 track with 3700 miles, front tires are feathered , anybody find any control arms they like, just trying to knock the neg. camber back to get the feathering issue fixed, did a search didnt find anything ,Craig
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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Ive got an 03 track with 3700 miles, front tires are feathered , anybody find any control arms they like, just trying to knock the neg. camber back to get the feathering issue fixed, did a search didnt find anything ,Craig

its not a camber issue, its a toe out issue, read this thread.

https://my350z.com/forum/maintenance-and-repair/15758-tire-feathering-fyi.html
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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If it is a toe problem why are all these people filing a class action suit after have there cars aligned at the dealer? only to have the same feathering problem, the only ones that I read that have fixed there problem have added arms to reduce the camber under 1 degree.
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camber doesnt cause feathering, improper toe does, toe in will cause outer tire wear, toe out will cause inside tire wear, its similar to camber but camber wears out on one side or the other of the tire but does not feather. in general sports cars all are supposed to have camber, thats why they handle soo beautifully, old Z32 300zx has 1.5 deg camber from the factory but no one complains about it....i dunno why all the 350z ppl are....300zx did camber wear their tires but they would cross rotate them but they did not feather.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Unit,
you may want to research a little deaper.

The car is sensitive about frt toe setting.
My wife's SUV would hug the road too, if I aligned it like a Z. It would also wear tires quicker.
Yes, many people continue to have problems after multiple dealer alignments. Read that sentence carefully and spend the $50 to have a good independent shop do a precise alignment. The car will hold the alignment you give it.

After 37k miles of dealer induced feathering and three sets of tires, I had my independent shop put an accurate alignment on my car. For the last 20k miles, no feathering!

It's a shame more people don't realize there is NOTHING special about the dealership. The dealers are the general practitioners of the automotive world. If you have a front end issue...take it to a front end specialist...duh! I think the tires play a very small role in this problem...it's mostly front geometry.

Please forgive the attitude. I've thought about this problem for 58k miles and wish more owners would open their minds that the solutions (yes, more than one) are available and don't necessarily involve the dealerships.
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So if its a front toe alignment issue what is the measurement for the alignment to stop the feathering.
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if you want to stop all feathering, i would think the toe would have to be set at "0" toe.
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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MNR, In theory, you are right. However, you probably would not like the handling characteristics. A little toe is good.

JS04, I set mine at the latest factory spec (mid point), and I still have good handling with no feathering. I don't recall the number. I'll come back later with it.
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Originally Posted by bwilliams
MNR, In theory, you are right. However, you probably would not like the handling characteristics. A little toe is good.

JS04, I set mine at the latest factory spec (mid point), and I still have good handling with no feathering. I don't recall the number. I'll come back later with it.

Correct, a little toe aids in stability while exiting the turns fast.
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Well , anyone have any control arm recommondations, this car is a toy for my wife to drive,mainly goes to the dairy queen, Im going to set the toe in at min spec. and reduce the neg camber to around 3/4 degree ,handling is 2nd to tire wear on a car that was bought as a toy. (not for corner carving )
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any particular price range? as there is a lot makers that make pretty the same thing.

You can also check out our suspension section http://performancenissanparts.com/ca...02_153_261_401

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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 06:20 AM
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MyNismoRoadster,
Do you represent a vendor while posting on this site? If so, don't you have to identify yourself as a vendor's rep?
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Originally Posted by bwilliams
MyNismoRoadster,
Do you represent a vendor while posting on this site? If so, don't you have to identify yourself as a vendor's rep?

i work for performance nissan, and why do i have to mark myself as a vendor for? we have a bunch of our guys in here promoting anyways, im just hanging out on my spare time off work.
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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anybody have the latest factory spec to correct the toe problem and have good handling?
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To Performance Nissan Rep,

Transparency? Forthright?

I, for one, like to know if I'm reading the words of a vendor. I don't know if you have to mark yourself. I would hope that Performance Nissan employees that are plugging the company would feel an obligation to the readers on this site to clearly disclose and identify yourself as such.
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Originally Posted by bwilliams
To Performance Nissan Rep,

Transparency? Forthright?

I, for one, like to know if I'm reading the words of a vendor. I don't know if you have to mark yourself. I would hope that Performance Nissan employees that are plugging the company would feel an obligation to the readers on this site to clearly disclose and identify yourself as such.


How does it matter if i work for them or not, i been on this forum before i worked for them and i dont feel obligated to disclose my self as being a employee of a vendor on this forum especially when we already have a few helpful and knowledgable Performance Nissan staff on this board daily, i dont think it matters, as long as my info is passed on to be helpful to someone thats all that matters. I chose to just be like any other member. This is the only forum i been to out of the 6 other forums i visit daily that has a problem with this. What you are basically saying is that if it comes from a vendor will make a difference to you as opposed to a knowlegable regular member? I personally dont think it matters. Just my 2 cents on this.
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 02:40 AM
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The nominal front alignment requirement, as of Feb 2005,

total toe= .1 degrees

The other geometry, you can't do anything about without aftermarket suspension.

For aftermarket suspension, shop around and compare...there are many sources for these parts. Some sources market openly, some covertly, some not at all. Don't confuse marketing effort with quality.

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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by unit5alive
Well , anyone have any control arm recommondations, this car is a toy for my wife to drive,mainly goes to the dairy queen, Im going to set the toe in at min spec. and reduce the neg camber to around 3/4 degree ,handling is 2nd to tire wear on a car that was bought as a toy. (not for corner carving )
Cusco offers an reasonably priced set of adjustable upper A-arms...350EVO has a more expensive offering.

http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ng&prodid=1288

http://www.350evo.com/catalog/produc...7b99660a54f029

hth

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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by KShep
Cusco offers an reasonably priced set of adjustable upper A-arms...350EVO has a more expensive offering.

http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ng&prodid=1288

http://www.350evo.com/catalog/produc...7b99660a54f029

hth

2nded, Cusco is offering a reasonable price unit, its cheaper then most of the ones i seen but effective, only gripe i have with the sliding type is that they tend to slip sometimes during hard cornering.
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