Tire FEATHERING: FYI
Originally posted by markt71Z
Just curious, what was the fix for the rattle in the hatch area?
Just curious, what was the fix for the rattle in the hatch area?
Now driving home from the dealership I noticed something else. There's a wheezing sound coming from the driver side rear somewhere. I can't hear it unless I turn my head to the left. It sounds as if a window back there is open. I'll be monitoring this more.
I also recieved a questionare in regards to the service and oveall satisfaction of the vehicle. I basically told them about all of the problems that I had. I also asked that a representative from Nissan contact me.
Last edited by BlueDragonZ; Jul 2, 2003 at 07:49 AM.
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Hey, Florida Attorney here, also having the tire problem.
Ok, I just got done reading the Lemon Law posts on page 33. I also just got done taking my Z to the dealership for cupping (and yes) feathering. (Although the feathering is slight, the cupping is bad).
I am in florida however, and very breifly, the Florida Lemon laws basically entail:
681.104. Nonconformity of motor vehicles
(1)(a) After three attempts have been made to repair the same nonconformity, the consumer shall give written notification, by registered or express mail to the manufacturer, of the need to repair the nonconformity to allow the manufacturer a final attempt to cure the nonconformity. The manufacturer shall have 10 days, commencing upon receipt of such notification, to respond and give the consumer the opportunity to have the motor vehicle repaired at a reasonably accessible repair facility within a reasonable time after the consumer's receipt of the response. The manufacturer shall have 10 days, except in the case of a recreational vehicle, in which event the manufacturer shall have 45 days, commencing upon the delivery of the motor vehicle to the designated repair facility by the consumer, to conform the motor vehicle to the warranty. If the manufacturer fails to respond to the consumer and give the consumer the opportunity to have the motor vehicle repaired at a reasonably accessible repair facility or perform the repairs within the time periods prescribed in this subsection, the requirement that the manufacturer be given a final attempt to cure the nonconformity does not apply.
(b) If the motor vehicle is out of service by reason of repair of one or more nonconformities by the manufacturer or its authorized service agent for a cumulative total of 15 or more days, exclusive of downtime for routine maintenance prescribed by the owner's manual, the consumer shall so notify the manufacturer in writing by registered or express mail to give the manufacturer or its authorized service agent an opportunity to inspect or repair the vehicle.
(2)(a) If the manufacturer, or its authorized service agent, cannot conform the motor vehicle to the warranty by repairing or correcting any nonconformity after a reasonable number of attempts, the manufacturer, within 40 days, shall repurchase the motor vehicle and refund the full purchase price to the consumer, less a reasonable offset for use, or, in consideration of its receipt of payment from the consumer of a reasonable offset for use, replace the motor vehicle with a replacement motor vehicle acceptable to the consumer. The refund or replacement must include all reasonably incurred collateral and incidental charges. However, the consumer has an unconditional right to choose a refund rather than a replacement motor vehicle. Upon receipt of such refund or replacement, the consumer, lienholder, or lessor shall furnish to the manufacturer clear title to and possession of the motor vehicle.
(b) Refunds shall be made to the consumer and lienholder of record, if any, as their interests may appear. If applicable, refunds shall be made to the lessor and lessee as follows: The lessee shall receive the lessee cost and the lessor shall receive the lease price less the lessee cost. A penalty for early lease termination may not be assessed against a lessee who receives a replacement motor vehicle or refund under this chapter. The Department of Revenue shall refund to the manufacturer any sales tax which the manufacturer refunded to the consumer, lienholder, or lessor under this section, if the manufacturer provides to the department a written request for a refund and evidence that the sales tax was paid when the vehicle was purchased and that the manufacturer refunded the sales tax to the consumer, lienholder, or lessor.
(3) It is presumed that a reasonable number of attempts have been undertaken to conform a motor vehicle to the warranty if, during the Lemon Law rights period, either:
(a) The same nonconformity has been subject to repair at least three times by the manufacturer or its authorized service agent, plus a final attempt by the manufacturer to repair the motor vehicle if undertaken as provided for in paragraph (1)(a), and such nonconformity continues to exist; or
(b) The motor vehicle has been out of service by reason of repair of one or more nonconformities by the manufacturer, or its authorized service agent, for a cumulative total of 30 or more days, 60 or more days in the case of a recreational vehicle, exclusive of downtime for routine maintenance prescribed by the owner's manual. The manufacturer or its authorized service agent must have had at least one opportunity to inspect or repair the vehicle following receipt of the notification as provided in paragraph (1)(b). The 30-day period, or 60-day period in the case of a recreational vehicle, may be extended by any period of time during which repair services are not available to the consumer because of war, invasion, strike, fire, flood, or natural disaster.
(4) It is an affirmative defense to any claim under this chapter that:
(a) The alleged nonconformity does not substantially impair the use, value, or safety of the motor vehicle;
(b) The nonconformity is the result of an accident, abuse, neglect, or unauthorized modifications or alterations of the motor vehicle by persons other than the manufacturer or its authorized service agent; or
(c) The claim by the consumer was not filed in good faith.
If I am not satisfied with service. I will initiate proceedings for nonconformity with warranty of vehicle. If i initiate proceedings, I will make a thread on this website on what Im doing, and any questions I can answer for others having the same problem.
~AJ
Ok, I just got done reading the Lemon Law posts on page 33. I also just got done taking my Z to the dealership for cupping (and yes) feathering. (Although the feathering is slight, the cupping is bad).
I am in florida however, and very breifly, the Florida Lemon laws basically entail:
681.104. Nonconformity of motor vehicles
(1)(a) After three attempts have been made to repair the same nonconformity, the consumer shall give written notification, by registered or express mail to the manufacturer, of the need to repair the nonconformity to allow the manufacturer a final attempt to cure the nonconformity. The manufacturer shall have 10 days, commencing upon receipt of such notification, to respond and give the consumer the opportunity to have the motor vehicle repaired at a reasonably accessible repair facility within a reasonable time after the consumer's receipt of the response. The manufacturer shall have 10 days, except in the case of a recreational vehicle, in which event the manufacturer shall have 45 days, commencing upon the delivery of the motor vehicle to the designated repair facility by the consumer, to conform the motor vehicle to the warranty. If the manufacturer fails to respond to the consumer and give the consumer the opportunity to have the motor vehicle repaired at a reasonably accessible repair facility or perform the repairs within the time periods prescribed in this subsection, the requirement that the manufacturer be given a final attempt to cure the nonconformity does not apply.
(b) If the motor vehicle is out of service by reason of repair of one or more nonconformities by the manufacturer or its authorized service agent for a cumulative total of 15 or more days, exclusive of downtime for routine maintenance prescribed by the owner's manual, the consumer shall so notify the manufacturer in writing by registered or express mail to give the manufacturer or its authorized service agent an opportunity to inspect or repair the vehicle.
(2)(a) If the manufacturer, or its authorized service agent, cannot conform the motor vehicle to the warranty by repairing or correcting any nonconformity after a reasonable number of attempts, the manufacturer, within 40 days, shall repurchase the motor vehicle and refund the full purchase price to the consumer, less a reasonable offset for use, or, in consideration of its receipt of payment from the consumer of a reasonable offset for use, replace the motor vehicle with a replacement motor vehicle acceptable to the consumer. The refund or replacement must include all reasonably incurred collateral and incidental charges. However, the consumer has an unconditional right to choose a refund rather than a replacement motor vehicle. Upon receipt of such refund or replacement, the consumer, lienholder, or lessor shall furnish to the manufacturer clear title to and possession of the motor vehicle.
(b) Refunds shall be made to the consumer and lienholder of record, if any, as their interests may appear. If applicable, refunds shall be made to the lessor and lessee as follows: The lessee shall receive the lessee cost and the lessor shall receive the lease price less the lessee cost. A penalty for early lease termination may not be assessed against a lessee who receives a replacement motor vehicle or refund under this chapter. The Department of Revenue shall refund to the manufacturer any sales tax which the manufacturer refunded to the consumer, lienholder, or lessor under this section, if the manufacturer provides to the department a written request for a refund and evidence that the sales tax was paid when the vehicle was purchased and that the manufacturer refunded the sales tax to the consumer, lienholder, or lessor.
(3) It is presumed that a reasonable number of attempts have been undertaken to conform a motor vehicle to the warranty if, during the Lemon Law rights period, either:
(a) The same nonconformity has been subject to repair at least three times by the manufacturer or its authorized service agent, plus a final attempt by the manufacturer to repair the motor vehicle if undertaken as provided for in paragraph (1)(a), and such nonconformity continues to exist; or
(b) The motor vehicle has been out of service by reason of repair of one or more nonconformities by the manufacturer, or its authorized service agent, for a cumulative total of 30 or more days, 60 or more days in the case of a recreational vehicle, exclusive of downtime for routine maintenance prescribed by the owner's manual. The manufacturer or its authorized service agent must have had at least one opportunity to inspect or repair the vehicle following receipt of the notification as provided in paragraph (1)(b). The 30-day period, or 60-day period in the case of a recreational vehicle, may be extended by any period of time during which repair services are not available to the consumer because of war, invasion, strike, fire, flood, or natural disaster.
(4) It is an affirmative defense to any claim under this chapter that:
(a) The alleged nonconformity does not substantially impair the use, value, or safety of the motor vehicle;
(b) The nonconformity is the result of an accident, abuse, neglect, or unauthorized modifications or alterations of the motor vehicle by persons other than the manufacturer or its authorized service agent; or
(c) The claim by the consumer was not filed in good faith.
If I am not satisfied with service. I will initiate proceedings for nonconformity with warranty of vehicle. If i initiate proceedings, I will make a thread on this website on what Im doing, and any questions I can answer for others having the same problem.
~AJ
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For you VA boys
Here is the lemon law as it stands in VA....
§ 59.1-207.13. Nonconformity of motor vehicles
A. If the manufacturer, its agents or authorized dealers do not conform the motor vehicle to any applicable warranty by repairing or correcting any defect or condition, including those that do not affect the driveability of the vehicle, which significantly impairs the use, market value, or safety of the motor vehicle to the consumer after a reasonable number of attempts during the lemon law rights period, the manufacturer shall:
1. Replace the motor vehicle with a comparable motor vehicle acceptable to the consumer, or
2. Accept return of the motor vehicle and refund to the consumer, lessor, and any lienholder as their interest may appear the full contract price, including all collateral charges, incidental damages, less a reasonable allowance for the consumer's use of the vehicle up to the date of the first notice of nonconformity that is given to the manufacturer, its agents or authorized dealer. Refunds or replacements shall be made to the consumer, lessor or lienholder, if any, as their interests may appear. The consumer shall have the unconditional right to choose a refund rather than a replacement vehicle and to drive the motor vehicle until he receives either the replacement vehicle or the refund. The subtraction of a reasonable allowance for use shall apply to either a replacement or refund of the motor vehicle. Mileage, expenses, and reasonable loss of use necessitated by attempts to conform such motor vehicle to the express warranty may be recovered by the consumer.
A1. In the case of a replacement of or refund for a leased vehicle, in addition to any other damages provided in this chapter, the motor vehicle shall be returned to the manufacturer and the consumer's written lease shall be terminated by the lessor without penalty to the consumer. The lessor shall transfer title to the manufacturer as necessary to effectuate the consumer's rights pursuant to this chapter, whether the consumer chooses vehicle replacement or a refund.
B. It shall be presumed that a reasonable number of attempts have been undertaken to conform a motor vehicle to any warranty and that the motor vehicle is significantly impaired if during the period of eighteen months following the date of original delivery of the motor vehicle to the consumer either:
1. The same nonconformity has been subject to repair three or more times by the manufacturer, its agents or its authorized dealers and the same nonconformity continues to exist;
2. The nonconformity is a serious safety defect and has been subject to repair one or more times by the manufacturer, its agent or its authorized dealer and the same nonconformity continues to exist; or
3. The motor vehicle is out of service due to repair for a cumulative total of thirty calendar days, unless such repairs could not be performed because of conditions beyond the control of the manufacturer, its agents or authorized dealers, including war, invasion, strike, fire, flood or other natural disasters.
C. The lemon law rights period shall be extended if the manufacturer has been notified but the nonconformity has not been effectively repaired by the manufacturer, or its agent, by the expiration of the lemon law rights period.
D. The manufacturer shall clearly and conspicuously disclose to the consumer, in the warranty or owner's manual, that written notification of the nonconformity to the manufacturer is required before the consumer may be eligible for a refund or replacement of the vehicle under this chapter. The manufacturer shall include with the warranty or owner's manual the name and address to which the consumer shall send such written notification.
E. It shall be the responsibility of the consumer, or his representative, prior to availing himself of the provisions of this section, to notify the manufacturer of the need for the correction or repair of the nonconformity, unless the manufacturer has been notified as defined in § 59.1-207.11. If the manufacturer or factory representative has not been notified of the conditions set forth in subsection B of this section and any of the conditions set forth in subsection B of this section already exists, the manufacturer shall be given an additional opportunity, not to exceed fifteen days, to correct or repair the nonconformity. If notification shall be mailed to an authorized dealer, the authorized dealer shall upon receipt forward such notification to the manufacturer.
F. Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to limit or impair the rights and remedies of a consumer under any other law.
G. It is an affirmative defense to any claim under this chapter that:
1. An alleged nonconformity does not significantly impair the use, market value, or safety of the motor vehicle; or
2. A nonconformity is the result of abuse, neglect or unauthorized modification or alteration of a motor vehicle by a consumer.
Ill make a new thread with questions on consumer law and consumer protection, so i dont derail this anyfurther.
~AJ
§ 59.1-207.13. Nonconformity of motor vehicles
A. If the manufacturer, its agents or authorized dealers do not conform the motor vehicle to any applicable warranty by repairing or correcting any defect or condition, including those that do not affect the driveability of the vehicle, which significantly impairs the use, market value, or safety of the motor vehicle to the consumer after a reasonable number of attempts during the lemon law rights period, the manufacturer shall:
1. Replace the motor vehicle with a comparable motor vehicle acceptable to the consumer, or
2. Accept return of the motor vehicle and refund to the consumer, lessor, and any lienholder as their interest may appear the full contract price, including all collateral charges, incidental damages, less a reasonable allowance for the consumer's use of the vehicle up to the date of the first notice of nonconformity that is given to the manufacturer, its agents or authorized dealer. Refunds or replacements shall be made to the consumer, lessor or lienholder, if any, as their interests may appear. The consumer shall have the unconditional right to choose a refund rather than a replacement vehicle and to drive the motor vehicle until he receives either the replacement vehicle or the refund. The subtraction of a reasonable allowance for use shall apply to either a replacement or refund of the motor vehicle. Mileage, expenses, and reasonable loss of use necessitated by attempts to conform such motor vehicle to the express warranty may be recovered by the consumer.
A1. In the case of a replacement of or refund for a leased vehicle, in addition to any other damages provided in this chapter, the motor vehicle shall be returned to the manufacturer and the consumer's written lease shall be terminated by the lessor without penalty to the consumer. The lessor shall transfer title to the manufacturer as necessary to effectuate the consumer's rights pursuant to this chapter, whether the consumer chooses vehicle replacement or a refund.
B. It shall be presumed that a reasonable number of attempts have been undertaken to conform a motor vehicle to any warranty and that the motor vehicle is significantly impaired if during the period of eighteen months following the date of original delivery of the motor vehicle to the consumer either:
1. The same nonconformity has been subject to repair three or more times by the manufacturer, its agents or its authorized dealers and the same nonconformity continues to exist;
2. The nonconformity is a serious safety defect and has been subject to repair one or more times by the manufacturer, its agent or its authorized dealer and the same nonconformity continues to exist; or
3. The motor vehicle is out of service due to repair for a cumulative total of thirty calendar days, unless such repairs could not be performed because of conditions beyond the control of the manufacturer, its agents or authorized dealers, including war, invasion, strike, fire, flood or other natural disasters.
C. The lemon law rights period shall be extended if the manufacturer has been notified but the nonconformity has not been effectively repaired by the manufacturer, or its agent, by the expiration of the lemon law rights period.
D. The manufacturer shall clearly and conspicuously disclose to the consumer, in the warranty or owner's manual, that written notification of the nonconformity to the manufacturer is required before the consumer may be eligible for a refund or replacement of the vehicle under this chapter. The manufacturer shall include with the warranty or owner's manual the name and address to which the consumer shall send such written notification.
E. It shall be the responsibility of the consumer, or his representative, prior to availing himself of the provisions of this section, to notify the manufacturer of the need for the correction or repair of the nonconformity, unless the manufacturer has been notified as defined in § 59.1-207.11. If the manufacturer or factory representative has not been notified of the conditions set forth in subsection B of this section and any of the conditions set forth in subsection B of this section already exists, the manufacturer shall be given an additional opportunity, not to exceed fifteen days, to correct or repair the nonconformity. If notification shall be mailed to an authorized dealer, the authorized dealer shall upon receipt forward such notification to the manufacturer.
F. Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to limit or impair the rights and remedies of a consumer under any other law.
G. It is an affirmative defense to any claim under this chapter that:
1. An alleged nonconformity does not significantly impair the use, market value, or safety of the motor vehicle; or
2. A nonconformity is the result of abuse, neglect or unauthorized modification or alteration of a motor vehicle by a consumer.
Ill make a new thread with questions on consumer law and consumer protection, so i dont derail this anyfurther.
~AJ
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I'm now a victim of the tire feathering issue. I noticed tire noise a number weeks ago [somewhat before 5,000 miles] and took off the wheels 2 weeks ago to wax and clean them. Then I noticed the feathering of the fronts. I'll get it in to service within the next week or so for the trans. replacement and have the dealer look into this "new" problem for me.
I now have about 6,300 miles on the car after 9 months of ownership.
What is the TSB # on this issue. This thread has gone to 35+ pages, and has just exploded in volume in the past two months.
I now have about 6,300 miles on the car after 9 months of ownership.
What is the TSB # on this issue. This thread has gone to 35+ pages, and has just exploded in volume in the past two months.
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Blue Dragon:
Once they aligned mine the tire wear (outside) has been fine. I have over 4000 miles since the alignment. It is amazing but many of the Z's seem to come in misaligned.
Lew F
Once they aligned mine the tire wear (outside) has been fine. I have over 4000 miles since the alignment. It is amazing but many of the Z's seem to come in misaligned.
Lew F
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From: Safety Harbor
I had the TSB performed which involves tire swap and alignment. The problem came back. They're supposed to order some tires for me as a replacement but they're on backorder. Also, replacing the tires _will not_ solve the problem. It's going to come back until they resolve the cause of my problem. I have feathering and cupping.
Originally posted by lew f
Blue Dragon:
Once they aligned mine the tire wear (outside) has been fine. I have over 4000 miles since the alignment. It is amazing but many of the Z's seem to come in misaligned.
Lew F
Blue Dragon:
Once they aligned mine the tire wear (outside) has been fine. I have over 4000 miles since the alignment. It is amazing but many of the Z's seem to come in misaligned.
Lew F
Mine was alligned at 500 miles and it currently has 2,900 miles. I don't seem to notice any uneven wear at this point.
Originally posted by BlueDragonZ
Mine was alligned at 500 miles and it currently has 2,900 miles. I don't seem to notice any uneven wear at this point.
Mine was alligned at 500 miles and it currently has 2,900 miles. I don't seem to notice any uneven wear at this point.
WOOPS! I jumped the gun I only have 2,400 miles.
catching up,....
ladies and gentlemen,
I bought my car back in december. The feathering started in february for me at about 3500 miles! I have been through all of the proceedures and will have a new set of rims and tires! installed from the factory on thursday at 1pm. the car has almost 11,000 miles and the noise is worse than ever. I will have an alignment re-performed but this of course is not a fix. Alignments will be like oil changes to keep this from reoccuring!
Many of the people that use to reply to this thread don't seem to be here! I have not been familiar with some of the names that i have been seeing! I have replies e-mailed to my address and view them on a daily basis to see if anyone has had any luck with a fix. Anyway, come thursday, I will be keeping a close eye on the situation and will have a post waiting for everyone new here to see what they have to look forward to!
good luck everyone,
calvin
SS,touring,6manual,LED's,7"wide screen,DVDplayer,3m bra(body armor)4first place car show trophies this summer
I bought my car back in december. The feathering started in february for me at about 3500 miles! I have been through all of the proceedures and will have a new set of rims and tires! installed from the factory on thursday at 1pm. the car has almost 11,000 miles and the noise is worse than ever. I will have an alignment re-performed but this of course is not a fix. Alignments will be like oil changes to keep this from reoccuring!
Many of the people that use to reply to this thread don't seem to be here! I have not been familiar with some of the names that i have been seeing! I have replies e-mailed to my address and view them on a daily basis to see if anyone has had any luck with a fix. Anyway, come thursday, I will be keeping a close eye on the situation and will have a post waiting for everyone new here to see what they have to look forward to!
good luck everyone,
calvin
SS,touring,6manual,LED's,7"wide screen,DVDplayer,3m bra(body armor)4first place car show trophies this summer
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I stopped posting or following, because frankly I just got totally frustrated with the issue. It was seriously degrading my experience with the car and reading all of the post were just bringing me down.
I got my car back in August of '02, had the toe adjusted and front tires replaced at 10,200 miles. I'm now at 15,000 miles and the cupping is back, although not nearly as bad. I'm getting close to needing new rear tires and was hoping to be able to buy new tires without the worries of this issue. I half-way thought there would be a solution by now. Evidently there is not!
I just have gotten so tired of taking my car in for service, I now space it out so when I walk into the dealer I don't get the..."Norrrrmmmm" routine. Not one single thing has been fixed on my car to my satisfaction, including this one. And yes I have called NNA and opened cases for the numerous issues I have had. While they seemed helpful, the end result is still the same, a car with plenty of problems that have not been resolved. As a third time Nissan Z owner, my loyalty is clear, but the continued lack of resolve to these issues has taken a major hit.
I know we should not have to pay additional money to solve this issue, but does anyone feel the Nismo S-tune suspension will solve this issue?
Scott
I got my car back in August of '02, had the toe adjusted and front tires replaced at 10,200 miles. I'm now at 15,000 miles and the cupping is back, although not nearly as bad. I'm getting close to needing new rear tires and was hoping to be able to buy new tires without the worries of this issue. I half-way thought there would be a solution by now. Evidently there is not!
I just have gotten so tired of taking my car in for service, I now space it out so when I walk into the dealer I don't get the..."Norrrrmmmm" routine. Not one single thing has been fixed on my car to my satisfaction, including this one. And yes I have called NNA and opened cases for the numerous issues I have had. While they seemed helpful, the end result is still the same, a car with plenty of problems that have not been resolved. As a third time Nissan Z owner, my loyalty is clear, but the continued lack of resolve to these issues has taken a major hit.
I know we should not have to pay additional money to solve this issue, but does anyone feel the Nismo S-tune suspension will solve this issue?
Scott
I realize that when my tires are replaced, they will have everything come back. I'll get alignments and hopefully come across a camber kit for it! Whatever helps! I need my tires to last!!!
calvin
SS,touring,etc.
calvin
SS,touring,etc.
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Originally posted by aggie300zx
I stopped posting or following, because frankly I just got totally frustrated with the issue. It was seriously degrading my experience with the car and reading all of the post were just bringing me down.
I got my car back in August of '02, had the toe adjusted and front tires replaced at 10,200 miles. I'm now at 15,000 miles and the cupping is back, although not nearly as bad. I'm getting close to needing new rear tires and was hoping to be able to buy new tires without the worries of this issue. I half-way thought there would be a solution by now. Evidently there is not!
I just have gotten so tired of taking my car in for service, I now space it out so when I walk into the dealer I don't get the..."Norrrrmmmm" routine. Not one single thing has been fixed on my car to my satisfaction, including this one. And yes I have called NNA and opened cases for the numerous issues I have had. While they seemed helpful, the end result is still the same, a car with plenty of problems that have not been resolved. As a third time Nissan Z owner, my loyalty is clear, but the continued lack of resolve to these issues has taken a major hit.
I know we should not have to pay additional money to solve this issue, but does anyone feel the Nismo S-tune suspension will solve this issue?
Scott
I stopped posting or following, because frankly I just got totally frustrated with the issue. It was seriously degrading my experience with the car and reading all of the post were just bringing me down.
I got my car back in August of '02, had the toe adjusted and front tires replaced at 10,200 miles. I'm now at 15,000 miles and the cupping is back, although not nearly as bad. I'm getting close to needing new rear tires and was hoping to be able to buy new tires without the worries of this issue. I half-way thought there would be a solution by now. Evidently there is not!
I just have gotten so tired of taking my car in for service, I now space it out so when I walk into the dealer I don't get the..."Norrrrmmmm" routine. Not one single thing has been fixed on my car to my satisfaction, including this one. And yes I have called NNA and opened cases for the numerous issues I have had. While they seemed helpful, the end result is still the same, a car with plenty of problems that have not been resolved. As a third time Nissan Z owner, my loyalty is clear, but the continued lack of resolve to these issues has taken a major hit.
I know we should not have to pay additional money to solve this issue, but does anyone feel the Nismo S-tune suspension will solve this issue?
Scott
Did you get your alignment w/ toe all the way in like mine? I have 3500 miles on my new fronts and still no sign of the feathering. I am also close to needing new tires and may wait 1500 miles to see. Seems like for me it 4-5000 miles for it to appear.
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Well, I have almost 6k miles on my enthusiast, and so far I haven't noticed any noise, but have been noticing the pull to the right. I'll be taking it to the dealer soon to align and check tire wear. BTW, if you log on to tire rack's website, the comments on the OEM Potenzas suck. People are recommending either Michelin Pilots or Goodyear F1. My car is at the shop right now due to a fender bender from behind (I got hit by a woman who didn't think it was necessary to slow down before entering an avenue) but as soon as I'm on it I'll be checking the tires. Also- I got a puncture on the rear right tire which couldn't be fixed, at the dealer they said it needed replacement. Guess the price? 410$ just for the tire, w/o instal and shop work. I just put fix-a-flat and will wait on the wear issue.
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ezchief,
I did get my toe-in adjusted, but not sure if it was set to what you had. I'm assuming the adjustment you are talking about was the results of the testing with Hunter. My alignment was done before that stuff even got started and have never heard anymore from my SM about the results, etc.
I did get my toe-in adjusted, but not sure if it was set to what you had. I'm assuming the adjustment you are talking about was the results of the testing with Hunter. My alignment was done before that stuff even got started and have never heard anymore from my SM about the results, etc.
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Originally posted by Zulu
... I got a puncture on the rear right tire which couldn't be fixed, at the dealer they said it needed replacement. Guess the price? 410$ just for the tire, w/o instal and shop work. I just put fix-a-flat and will wait on the wear issue.
... I got a puncture on the rear right tire which couldn't be fixed, at the dealer they said it needed replacement. Guess the price? 410$ just for the tire, w/o instal and shop work. I just put fix-a-flat and will wait on the wear issue.
Originally posted by ezchief
Aggie,
Did you get your alignment w/ toe all the way in like mine? I have 3500 miles on my new fronts and still no sign of the feathering. I am also close to needing new tires and may wait 1500 miles to see. Seems like for me it 4-5000 miles for it to appear.
Aggie,
Did you get your alignment w/ toe all the way in like mine? I have 3500 miles on my new fronts and still no sign of the feathering. I am also close to needing new tires and may wait 1500 miles to see. Seems like for me it 4-5000 miles for it to appear.
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From: Dallas, TX
I would guess he is talking about the rear tires needing replacement. I'm nearing the same situation, since I received new front tires at 10,000 miles (so only 5k on those), and my rear tires are the originals that now have 15,000 miles on them.
The delima I think he will face as will many that have gotten new fronts is how long to push the rear tires before getting all new tires with the feathering/cupping issue unresolved.
The delima I think he will face as will many that have gotten new fronts is how long to push the rear tires before getting all new tires with the feathering/cupping issue unresolved.
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From: florida
nothing new from me yet. I took my z in for the tire TSB and they said they'd align and switch the right with the left. Well, they couldnt do it that day so they sent me home with nothing.
I am about to call them right now for a service date. Im at about 18,000 miles and the noise is literally louder then the radio. Ive had had it fixed sooner if the dealership where i lived was worth anything at all.
Going to ask for pilots.
Those of you whove had it fixed without the problem returning... Im unclear, was there anything special your service techs did besides the normal alignment and tire-side swap?
~AJ
I am about to call them right now for a service date. Im at about 18,000 miles and the noise is literally louder then the radio. Ive had had it fixed sooner if the dealership where i lived was worth anything at all.
Going to ask for pilots.
Those of you whove had it fixed without the problem returning... Im unclear, was there anything special your service techs did besides the normal alignment and tire-side swap?
~AJ