Autoweek on Speed channel had a short piece about the feathering problem tonight, saying they witnessed the issue on their long term test Z. They referenced this forum also as to the extent of the problem. Nothing new however, only that engineers were looking at the problem and were confident FUTURE zs wouldnt have the problem. No mention of current problem z resolution.

online edition http://autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?p..._code=09000774

 

When is it on? I'm on MST, and it the digital cable says it's on at Midnight tonight.

 

I saw it, too. They called it something like "Zgrumble over Zrumble". Not much new. Engineers are out doing inspections. Unknown amount of cars. My350Z.com was mentioned. Mentioned out of alignment from plant and toe-in party line.

 

dealer told me about the tire life, that is how they prorate the tires when you want them replaced!

 

Your saying you have to pay to have them replaced at the dealership?

 

NTB91075


TSB SERVICE INFORMATION On some 1990 300ZX vehicles, customers may complain of excessive tire wear on the front tires. Front tire wear may occur on the inner part of the tread and the customer may also complain of a "growling/howling" noise from the front of the vehicle. Use procedure outlined in this bulletin to inspect and repair vehicles these vehicles.

Sound familiar?

 

BK-

What was the cure or is their a thread to the TSB?

Curious to see.

Thanks

 

I had a new 1990 and never had that problem, hope I'm that lucky with this one.

 

I thought they never gave any retroactive "fix" to the Z32 guys, but I don't recall anymore.

I do remember it was a nearly identical problem that the 350Zs are having...

 

Well, I just got the call from SM that my tires were replaced and rear toe adjusted. I said "and the front?" Reply, "oh, yeah"

I am going to call NNA tomorrow and open a case. I want it documented now, so if/when it comes back I will be one step ahead.

I don't have much hope, since they can't get the grease streak fixed on the passenger window.

 

Well folks, looks like I'm going to venture into the Nismo S-tune suspension route on this issue. After going through the visit with the Nissan Engineers from Japan and getting the "we can't align your car because you no longer have OEM spec tires and wheels" stance I feel that pursuing my own solution is just how its going to play out. I fully understood that changing my wheels and tires might cause this, but I sort of hoped Nissan would do us right on this issue. I truly believe that Nissan will just ride this out until our warranties have gone and passed. I'm 2/3 the way there, so bring on the s-tune suspension.

Good luck!

 

As sad as it feels, I totally agree with you on how Nissan is handling this. It's really lame that they pulled that excuse on ya...

 

That's exactly why I am waiting until my warranty is up to do mods.

 

Well I think I've just about has it with Nissan all together. My opinion on this whole issue is that Nissan will continue to prolong a permanent fix for this horrible problem with the 350Z. They will keep feeding us ******** to stave us off in our hopes that they are actually concerned and working on this issue. The truth of the matter is that we will soon be approaching the limits of the warranty and to the owners of the first 350Z's they will say screw you, your warranty is up and there is nothing we can do to help you. I mean look at the 12,000 mile tire warranty. That in itself is a joke. By 2005 I'm sure they will have all of the issues on the Z worked out, so I honestly feel that they could care less about the loyal 350Z owners who put deposits down and ordered their Z's sight unseen months in advance. Think about it. The Z may be their "flagship" car, but when they are selling a shitload of maximas, altimas, sentras, etc. it all comes down to $$$ and that is the bottom line. They don't even have the proper equiptment to work on the Z at most of the dealerships and ther customer service is a joke. I have been a Z fanatic ever since I bought my first 300ZX in 1985. With this experience however, it is worth it for me to put my frustrations behind and get rid of my 350Z. I knowingly purchased this car expecting it to have issues as all first year model cars usually do, but it's one thing for the car to exhibit problems and a completly different issue when the manufacture is ignoring the problems and fighting you tooth and nail. I'll be more than happy to present my case to Nissan. My service records are bigger than encyclopedia britanica and have had offers to take my case. I was hoping to wait it out, but I'm tired of dealing with this ****. Looks like i'll be driving the LS400 and SL500. At least Lexus and Mercedes treat their customers with a little dignity. OK I'm done venting now. Good luck to the rest of you guys and girls!

 

Learned a long time ago that once you modify you are your own warranty station. I've seen other manufactures void warranties on the engine and driveline because of the addition of a non oem exhaust. The idea is that the non OEM exhaust increased HP and Tq. which can cause engine and driveline failure. I see a lot of members here that have all kinds of mod's that change engine output. If they were driving Dodge Cummins Turbo diesel trucks their warranties for their engines and drivetrains would be history the first time they took their truck to the dealer. Nissan is not the bad guy here. At this point they are looking for a fix, and brought the experts in from Japan to find an answer, which is a good thing. Now if six months from today they still don't have a solution that works and takes care of us, then they are the bad guys. JMHO

 

I've been giving Nissan the benefit of the doubt up till now. But do you honestly believe they are "working" on a fix? There are a lot of smart people in this world and I bet many of them work for Nissan. If they "really" wanted to come up with a solution for this issue, I have no doubt they could in a lot less time then what has transpired thus far. What I doubt is the sincerity to actual apply their knowledge and resources to a solution. Sure they sent over some engineers to look at our cars, does that show sincerity? Sure, but will that result in a fix? That's where we all have to decide if that will ever happen in manner that satisfies us. I've just reached a point of being honest with myself about this and nothing thus far has indicated on Nissan's behalf that they will change their ways about this issue in the future. It's a pattern of behavior not just by them, but also by many product manufacturers. I work as a consultant and my job is to always ensure the client is satisfied, so maybe I hold Nissan to a higher standard, that's my fault I guess...but it won't happen again. I truly hope they come through on this, but I wouldn't bet a feathered tire on it. All right, I've said my peace.

Scott

 

I have had 3 cars do this now, the common link?? Suspension

94 civic with bouncy ride-lowering springs but stock shocks=fix??=Konis

2001 Jetta=H&R springs stock shocks, bouncy ride. FIX?=Bilstein shocks

now I have a Z with stock suspension and teh exact same wear pattern, interesting

 

6 months from now?? what are you new to this thread or something, this has been going on way to long, are you joking or do you work for NNA??? GIVE me a freakin break!!!

 

Pit Bull:
I am surprised by your reply, you have been on this thread forever. Look at page one of this thread and you will see this issue is at a minimum been going on over 12 months. Dealership service managers have admitted there is a problem known by Nissan corporate.
I don't doubt Nissan is "looking to fix it", but to date other than change and rotate (the tires really weren't made for rotation) tires, Nissan has not been straight forward with their fix.

 

It makes sense to me that on the day the TSB for tire noise was released to the dealers nationwide would be the very day that some high up engineer or manager (after probably some meeting), realized that there was a tire wear problem. This date should be considered the start of your waiting period for the permanent fix...

Now, how long ago was that date?

And you're saying a couple days ago engineers came to visit people to find out about tire problems? Is that a joke? You're going to eye ball my suspension? What the hell will you find by looking at it? Missing pieces? Maybe kicking the tires is the answer?!

My vote is that you're unlikely to get any new parts from Nissan under warranty. I said this before...if the new suspension that is apparently on 2004.5s has ANYTHING different, ie shocks, bushings, whatever...that's what the Japan Engineers found was the problem. UNOFFICALLY of course.

Before I go just a quick question...Is the Engineer the guy at the front of the train or the rear? I'm always confused