ginobetterfly

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good read... my 2 cents:

1. ROTA so obviously 100% copied the RE30 design and now the GT-30 from Rays (its almost shady)... and in the future im certain they will copy the CE, the TE (oh wait i think that happened already lolz), the GT-F, etc, etc, etc.... in my opinion, that is so effin lame and unoriginal and why i will NEVER buy from Rota (or from any company who practice such a lame business model (in my opinion), EVEN IF such a model is making them money)

-again, i dont give a **** about Rota's R&D or lack there of, or whatever... all im saying is they keep and keep COPYING Rays designs and i feel like its just never going to end and i am well aware that companies copy each other's designs from time to time but Rota is just going way too far with every one of their "NEW" designs looking EXACTLY like Rays old ones...

2. Much better, lighter, [probably] stronger wheel designs are available for similar money as the Rotas... Take a look at Enkeis RPF1s and NTO3s.

3. And finally, if any of the Rota posers want some Rays/Volks stickers to get the complete VOLK look (i know you're out there), i got some for sale.... (i kid, i kid, dont ban me...)

v8 rofl

+1... Its kind of sad that the moderators wont step in and do something for a paying sponsor who has had to put up with more people's **** than he has should have all while respectfully reacting...

SlipZ

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Originally Posted by kelsey_kaye
i'm actually surprised this thread hasn't been locked already.


i think it should be and ban/warning for some.

Voboy

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Don't understand why their's so much hate on Rotas. If you truly hate replica's why not hate all the vender's selling replica body kits on here also? A good chunk of people on here are running replica body kits and they don't get flamed. What's up with all this nonsense. Same people, same hate, everytime. If you don't wanna support them, then don't buy them. Simple as that.

ginobetterfly

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i agree with this.... and i have NOTHING against Wheeldude as he is just trying to make a living and i applaud him for replying politely and in detail... even though he did have the audacity to call this thread "New Rota design unveiled..."

I just cant get over Rota's complete COPY after COPY after COPY of Rays wheels....

Anyways, my disbelief and disgust is with Rota, not wheeldude, so wheeldude if i hurt your sale of these wheels with my post in any way (i highly doubt it), im sorry... i cant speak for the other 5 pages of negative replies though...

07rdsterGT

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Wow. I just read over this entire thread and some of you guys are more arrogant then f u c k i n g civic drivers. GET THE **** OVER IT. Welcome to the real world guys, don't like it, move the hell on. Like a bunch of school girls in here.

WheelDude.com

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I'm sorry if I offended you, I did not mean for that to come off in a negative context. By definition, "lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact" I think that this word best described him for this particular subject.

There are a lot of things that go on "behind the scenes" that I keep to myself and don't make public. Luckily the my350z admins have been very helpful to put a stop to a lot of these shady tactics. Trust me guys, the mods and admins have been a great help and they are definitely doing their jobs.


-Dan

O_SO_ICY_Z

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Wheeldude sorry for all the hate your getting from the stuck up *** Z owners. i cant see myself ever spending 3-4 grand for the name on a F***ing wheel. plus i get tired of seeing every damn car on this forum with the same volks rays or works in different colors. tired of knock offs everyone? i'm tired of having to read you stuck up people flame on everybody who doesnt have the same wheels as you on your Z. your talking about Rota being original? how about you be original yourself and put something on your ride not made from rays manufacturing then? how many new wheel designs has volk came up with lately? i just see different versions of the same wheels over and over again and it gets just as old.

ginobetterfly

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WOW... that comment right there just classified you as a F***ing retard...

yep, you hit the nail right on the head, we're def not paying for the quality, strength, finish and the light weight of the Rays, just paying for the name... yep, you got it!

Phantom Menace

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OP,

Whatever happened to the concave 19"s you posted about a few months back?

WheelDude.com

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The 19" P45 wheels will be available in January The 18" P45 wheels were very popular for the 350Z and proved to be high quality with great strength. The community asked us to release a 19" model and it's now finally a reality We already received the 19x9 +20 fronts and the 19x10 +20 rears are in transit right now. We are offering these in a staggered 19x9 +20 front / 19x10 +20 rear or a 19x10 +20 all around.

Don't want to go too offtopic in this thread but here are some samples of the wheels These are just a couple of the many incoming colors

19x9 +20




19x10 +20



-Dan

quicki

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Yes, we all know that Rota designs often look like they imitate others, but have y'all ever though of as to why? Because the design is popular and attractive! Rota is not going to go around designing ugly looking rims for the sake of (not limited to)volk and volk owners, and they are not the only company. A quick browse through Tirerack and you could definitely find more than one brand of rim that looks like another rim.

Point in case.

A rim by ASA


Rota P45R


SSR


Nismo (Made by Rays, who also produce Volks)


Who can really say they had the design first?

The fact that y'all would take 5 minutes of your precious time to bash someone who doesn't even design the rims, just redistributes them seems irrational and uncalled for. If you don't like it, who cares? Your bickering will not prevent companies from designing rims that resemble another companies rim.

O_SO_ICY_Z

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and i'm sure your at the track every getting every bit of use you can out of those four grand wheels? and i'm the retard for not spending four grand on wheels that are gonna sit in my garage? good one!

Goku350z2007

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shiotttt good designsss
i may consider rotas now instead of volks

kelsey_kaye

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that's the difference between Volks fanboys and people that really want authenticity. most Volks lovers are just hypocrites. they say they buy Volks for the quality and the r&d.. blah blah.. they're real. then they buy the shine replica kits. there's nothing wrong with that but then don't preach to others about their FAKE wheels...

ALO8

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Finish might be different brand new, I don't know about night and day. Maybe you should refer to night and day to the end result of the volks finish on certain wheels when the owners complain on how there is a rainbow effect on the lip or a haze over the finish. Plus that is why volk has there own thread on how to maintain and wash them on this site. All that money that is spent on wheels just so that we can here owners complain about there finish.

ALO8

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Like if you know how the downfall of Greddy came about? If the downfall of Greddy was a result of knockoffs, well good for them. Competition is competition and a company who does not take into account this is going to be left behind. You have be on top of your game in order to sell and push products into the hands of consumers and apparently something went wrong with Greddy, because the rest of the legitimate companies got the memo. I think Rota must have gotten it, they're still in business, I highly doubt they would be in business if they sold inferior products.

Toby-22

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Wow, so much hate. If you don't like em then don't buy em simple as dat. I personally wouldn't get rotas but a lot of these rotas don't look bad. Oh n another thing, saying "buying $3k wheels is stupid" is just as ignorant as saying "buying cheap knockoffs is stupid." Most people buy $3-4k wheels for quality and not just name brand. If you don't like Rotas then that's your business, but there are others that like em. No need to bash the wheels or the OP.

lil_shaun

Im going to sell my le28's and get these spectrums because of this!

jk im not, but i will consider the 19" red/black p45r's, theyre sick and if I didnt get the volks for a steal I woulda been all over the p45r's like rota haters were all over this thread

Rota FTW
Volk FTW

350Zdj

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LOL @ haters.

why bash on someone who's freely contributing to help make this site/community successful? shame shame.

if you guys have to make a comment at least do show a bit of respect. cmon.

so, "LEAAAAVE ROTA ALLOOONEE!!! YOU VOLK B@ST@RDS!! *cry cry cry..." LOL. (anybody remembers that 'leave britney alone' clip?)

on a serious note,
im also one of the rota users. My Z has been air-borne about 5inch off the ground on the p45's while running at 80kph on a bend (fooking potholes). Z has been dropped off a jackstand at more than 1ft high (fooking crazy-dumbass assistant mechanic!!!). Been at the circuit several times, with suspensions dialed on hardest settings.... and nothing happened. not a crack nor a bend.

one of the tuned evo9's in my area has been rocking rota's for more than a year now and he's one of the fastest around the club circuit, dubai autodrome. before that this particular rota set was mounted onto another track-***** 350z (driven by a very seasoned track veteran). . . so quality-wise i think it's fine.

so... hatin rota because of its knock-off designs? OK. acceptable.

but hatin rota for its poor quality design? FAIL!11!1!!! JWT/VIA labels aren't stamped there just for show.

also, why worry so much? even Volks and other brands aren't bothered to take legal actions or even accuse the PAWI/ROTA for 'copying' their products.

be cool guys.

as for the topic, the new Spectrum design looks pretty ok for the Z imo.
p45r and torque are still my faves