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Old 08-02-2010, 07:22 AM
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Default Engine Valvetrain noise

My mostly stock 05 Z has 34.5K miles on it. Oil was changed every 3K miles. I lose about 1/2 qt every 3K miles, I dont think I have oil consumption issues.

It recently started to make a valve train noise, its slight tapping/hissing/grinding noise and you can hear it clearly inside when engine is revving down. Is that a normal noise?

I recently got brake and clutch fluid replaced at Frank's Hills Garage. Awesome guy and did take his time to do things right. His wife was super nice too. It was good to meet Barnabas there when I was getting it done.

Should I take the Z to Frank to check on the engine noise? I will just replace the oil once to see if the noise goes away.

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Old 08-02-2010, 07:28 AM
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Has your oil ever ran low? Could you post a vid/audio clip?
Old 08-02-2010, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by djamps
Has your oil ever ran low? Could you post a vid/audio clip?
My oil never ran low. I took a audio and video clip that I will post tonight when I get home.
Old 08-02-2010, 11:53 AM
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ill wait for video but frank will def be able to tell you what it is if none of us can
Old 08-02-2010, 12:05 PM
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what oil have you been using? try a little thicker oil and see if it helps. German Castrol Syntec 0w30 from autozone is a good one to try. its a bit thicker then your conventional 30 weight oil and provides some of the best oil analysis numbers in the VQ.
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I have been using Castrol GTX 5W-30 dino oil with a Pure One filter. From the oil analysis thread Castrol has been the best non-synthetic oil for the VQ. So I have been sticking with that.

I cant post the video from work, it was taken from my phone. I will upload it at home and post the link.
Attached Thumbnails Engine Valvetrain noise-oil-analysis.jpg  

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Old 08-02-2010, 02:38 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCnEYqjpgVQ

Turn your speakers up.

Listen to the sound when the engine winds down, thats a little more pronounced than before. Is that normal?

superchargedg - Keith, how are you doing? Yeah its been a long time, every now and then I peek in.

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It sounds pretty normal to me.If you get a chance stop by my shop in catonsville and i have a listen for you as its hard to tell anything in the vid.I am at the Pepboys in catonsville on rt 40.
410-788-2525 if you need to call me.
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That def does NOT sound normal to me. It sounds like someone grinding a knife and fork together.
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^^ I doubt that's the engine. I think that's his keys jingling or something. Can't tell **** from the vid...too muffled. You have to take the vid/audio around the hood or under the car if you want any chance of a forum diagnosis.
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Thanks for the replies. The jiggling sound that you probably heard is definitely the keys, my knee hits the keys. I should have mentioned that earlier.
What you want to hear is the engine winding down, its more sound than before. I want to know if that is normal.

I took this video from my phone and will try to take another one from a regular P&S camera and post back. The thing about this sound is that it more audible inside the cabin than outside. Seems that when outside the sounds just disperses and is not audible. Inside the cabin you can hear it, it sounds a little like a race engine winding down, not as smooth as it was before.

After reading a little in the forum, looks like the valve timing mechanism starts making noise as it wears, is that a general experience with VQDE?

Keith, do you work at Pepboys on weekends? I will see if I can swing by then.

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I have uploaded an Mp3 file to the google site. It can downloaded and played. It sounds better than the Youtube video. Please tune out the keys jiggling sound.

https://sites.google.com/site/spiffyfiles/engine-noise

Thanks again.

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Sounds harmless. Could be 'something' like exaust or engine mounts but I seriously doubt anything internal to the engine is at play.
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Originally Posted by spacemn_spiff
Thanks for the replies. The jiggling sound that you probably heard is definitely the keys, my knee hits the keys. I should have mentioned that earlier.
What you want to hear is the engine winding down, its more sound than before. I want to know if that is normal.

I took this video from my phone and will try to take another one from a regular P&S camera and post back. The thing about this sound is that it more audible inside the cabin than outside. Seems that when outside the sounds just disperses and is not audible. Inside the cabin you can hear it, it sounds a little like a race engine winding down, not as smooth as it was before.

After reading a little in the forum, looks like the valve timing mechanism starts making noise as it wears, is that a general experience with VQDE?

Keith, do you work at Pepboys on weekends? I will see if I can swing by then.
I am there from 8-3 on saturdays.
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I talked to Frank Hill this past week and took it to him on last Friday morning. Frank graciously took a look every possible way and concluded that it sounds healthy, although the sound might be slightly louder than before, it sounds pretty healthy.

Thanks Keith for the offer, didnt end making it to Pepboys, my 14 months old daughters pool party was a priority.
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