350Z vs VW GIT 1.8t 337
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It's not uncommon for 1.8T's to run very low 14's and high 13's with full bolt on's and a good launch. (ie. chip, exhaust, downpipe, intake, etc.)
It all depends what your friend has on his mod list.
A good peloquin LSD should put the power to the ground nicely and if he's got the right combination of mods, you could get a run for your money! Let us know!
Peace everyone!
It all depends what your friend has on his mod list.
A good peloquin LSD should put the power to the ground nicely and if he's got the right combination of mods, you could get a run for your money! Let us know!
Peace everyone!
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first of all a GTI does not weigh 2,700 lbs....moer like 2,950.
second of all: negcamber, i am aware of wisconins loss from a ROLL.....the GTI guy wouldn't even bother running from a stop. I still think the Z wins from a stop if the guy can launch even half way decent. My runs with camuman that seem to be such a hot topic over on s2ki.com were similar results to wisconsin. From a roll it was basically a tie even though I still won the majority of the runs, but from a stop I would pull 5 - 6 cars(no exaggeration, it is on the videos). Those cars cant launch worth crap.
second of all: negcamber, i am aware of wisconins loss from a ROLL.....the GTI guy wouldn't even bother running from a stop. I still think the Z wins from a stop if the guy can launch even half way decent. My runs with camuman that seem to be such a hot topic over on s2ki.com were similar results to wisconsin. From a roll it was basically a tie even though I still won the majority of the runs, but from a stop I would pull 5 - 6 cars(no exaggeration, it is on the videos). Those cars cant launch worth crap.
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For those of you wondering the weight of a stock GTi, according edmunds - 2932 lbs.
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2003/volk...tml?id=lin0018
So over 3000 lbs. with a driver and no weight reduction (i.e. seats, spare, jack).
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2003/volk...tml?id=lin0018
So over 3000 lbs. with a driver and no weight reduction (i.e. seats, spare, jack).
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I'd have to agree about the difficulty of launching a 1.8T, especially a modded one. Its way too easy to spin through first and halfway through second with just a chip, excluding any other mods. However, from a roll, modded 1.8T's are quick, the chip holds boost longer into the RPM's.
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Guys i know that the 337 is lighter than the normal GTi... anyways i found a thread that talks about the 337 weight and a guy did weigh his car with half a gas tank and got 2850lbs... U can check it under this link.... http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=627663
Race him from a stop and try to do it right, let him play catch up. If he really has 215HP 247TQ on the wheels then a stock Z which have around 235-240rwhp and the same TQ wont have a chance from a roll due to the weight difference. Do it for fun and tell us what happens.
Race him from a stop and try to do it right, let him play catch up. If he really has 215HP 247TQ on the wheels then a stock Z which have around 235-240rwhp and the same TQ wont have a chance from a roll due to the weight difference. Do it for fun and tell us what happens.
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The ANSWER to who wins...
I had a Jetta 1.8T with APR chip, 3in Downpipe and catback, diverter valve (if he uses a Blow off valve he will have fuel problems) My Jetta made 190rwhp with those mods. Then I got the Z. The Z is faster, not by much, but its faster at ALL speeds.
I raced my friends GTI in the Z which has the same mods in my Jetta and put about 1/2 a car legth on every gear. We raced from a roll on first gear. The response of the Z is incredible eventhough my friend brake boosted. You will kill the GTI from a stand still since they have serious traction problems, from that point on the Z will pull a little more.
Your friend is NOT making 215+ fwhp unless he put in a K04 Turbo, which is a a liiiitle bigger, if he did, then it will be a drivers race.
The very HUGE advantage the Z has is its launch, go from there.
P.S. Forget about APR's stage 3, there arent many of them around, sure they make a lot of power, I myself wanteed one for my Jetta but I didnt like the idea of having a such a powerful FRONT WHEEL DRIVE torque steering ****.
I raced my friends GTI in the Z which has the same mods in my Jetta and put about 1/2 a car legth on every gear. We raced from a roll on first gear. The response of the Z is incredible eventhough my friend brake boosted. You will kill the GTI from a stand still since they have serious traction problems, from that point on the Z will pull a little more.
Your friend is NOT making 215+ fwhp unless he put in a K04 Turbo, which is a a liiiitle bigger, if he did, then it will be a drivers race.
The very HUGE advantage the Z has is its launch, go from there.
P.S. Forget about APR's stage 3, there arent many of them around, sure they make a lot of power, I myself wanteed one for my Jetta but I didnt like the idea of having a such a powerful FRONT WHEEL DRIVE torque steering ****.
Good input form everybody. Well we are Going to the 1/4 mile track On Sat Feb 8. We will be running all night and one of my other friends is going to Film all the Races. I am going to try to get more 350Z in the D/FW area to go out there with us so we can get alot of 350z vs ? on film.
Any non-Zers out there that would like a chance to run with the Zs come on out.
2/8/2003 Sat. around 8pm at the Texas Mortorplex.
http://www.texasmotorplex.com/
Hope to see you there!!!!
Any non-Zers out there that would like a chance to run with the Zs come on out.
2/8/2003 Sat. around 8pm at the Texas Mortorplex.
http://www.texasmotorplex.com/
Hope to see you there!!!!
337, I almost had one...
I almost bought a 337. It came down to sitting at the dealer with my checkbook. At the last minute they tried RAISING the price on me by $2K, and I walked out.
After more research, I found it was not what I wanted. The 337 is just a GTI 1.8T with Recaro seats and a few other "eye candy" items, and you can only have it VW's way, no options. I decided that I wanted a VR6 with the 6Manual, which already comes at 220Hp. The option is to start with the 1.8T, and mod it until you get to 220HP....
I waited, and then I saw the Z... the rest is now 7 days of history...
Can the Z beat the 337. I would say stock 337 no problem. He might have the weight advantage at launch, but you should not have a problem, and even that is doubtfull.
Mods might be another story. Plenty of ways to hide stuff. The chip, wastegate and all that is to make the turbo produce more boost (psi). I don't remember if you mentioned an intercooler or no... humm.
Somebody mentioned slicks. Good point, with that much power on a light car he better be good at launching that thing or he might just go up in smoke, unless, as stated, he shows up with slicks.
The 337 was going to be around $23K, the GTI VR6/6M about the same. My Z was $36K. I am very happy I got the Z.
If you want to read up more, thereis LOADS of info at
VW Vortex
After more research, I found it was not what I wanted. The 337 is just a GTI 1.8T with Recaro seats and a few other "eye candy" items, and you can only have it VW's way, no options. I decided that I wanted a VR6 with the 6Manual, which already comes at 220Hp. The option is to start with the 1.8T, and mod it until you get to 220HP....
I waited, and then I saw the Z... the rest is now 7 days of history...
Can the Z beat the 337. I would say stock 337 no problem. He might have the weight advantage at launch, but you should not have a problem, and even that is doubtfull.
Mods might be another story. Plenty of ways to hide stuff. The chip, wastegate and all that is to make the turbo produce more boost (psi). I don't remember if you mentioned an intercooler or no... humm.
Somebody mentioned slicks. Good point, with that much power on a light car he better be good at launching that thing or he might just go up in smoke, unless, as stated, he shows up with slicks.
The 337 was going to be around $23K, the GTI VR6/6M about the same. My Z was $36K. I am very happy I got the Z.
If you want to read up more, thereis LOADS of info at
VW Vortex
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From: St.Louis
The stock Z will be toast against a modded 337 1.8t. Hes putting down very high torque and horse numbers and weighs alot less than you do. I would bet every car I own that he will beat you rather handily.
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