saleens28100

LOL, thats funny dude, you obviously don't know your mustangs, i will gladly race your 5.0 or your Z and enjoy showing you my tail lights...

djlynch

I think I know where your are going with this......

There are faster ones, no doubt. If your talking about a blown saleen s281 (I am referring to your screen name), I think thats a little unfair. If your referring to a blown S351, a little different, a Roush stage 3, new (2003) blown cobra, etc.

I was referring to an off the assembly line, no perks GT.

If your driving in a NON SUPERCHARGED s281 ANYTIME w/the 5.0. The Z, well, it would be fun, but....

saleens28100

a new GT off the assembly line vs a stock 5.0 the new GT will win everytime...its puts out more power...how do you figure the older 5.0 is faster? in stock form of course

saleens28100

no my saleen is not supercharged, but i will soon have the vortech S-trim installed, but i do have about 300 flywheel horsepower and 373 gears...enough to beat a Z.

02silverstanger

I have now read all 6 pages of this thread and would like to add my .02. Stock against stock with drivers with equal skills, the 350z should beat a stock 4.6 GT, reason being is that they are geared better, have more HP & only way about 200 lbs more then a GT.

The GT'S Torque does help out at launch time but after the cars get moving..thats when the HP becomes the deciding factor. However, when you look at a Total performance per dollor spent( I spent 21,000 for my 02 GT premium)..the Mustangs finish first



But once a few Mods are added to the GT (about a $1000 worth) GT's will own a 350Z

2001Stang

This is complete incorrect I have owned both a 93 LX 5.0 and my current 01 GT, I can tell you from first hand experience that my current car would beat my 5.0 The old 5.0 had terrible heads and did not breath well at all after 5000 RPM. Oh and just so you know the 93 LX 5.0 Coupe was the fastest Mustang you could get since it weighed about 2900lbs (excluding the 93 Cobra is was a bit faster but not much). Now modded it is no comparison since 5.0’s have a huge aftermarket.

2001Stang

I kind of agree what you are saying but I don't think it would take 1000 dollars in mods to keep up they are already close. I say about 200 invested in a set of gears and it is an equal playing field.

02silverstanger

Yes you are right...but I meant it would take about that much to walk off and leave one (OWN IT) !!

jester

Thumbs up on the kill (thats what this post was about originally, right?)

Lot of good info in here...along with a lot of mis-information. Hope you guys can sort through it for the good stuff....

02silverstanger

What misinformation were you referring to? was it one of my posts?

bullitt1067

Just wanted to clear up some stuff here There are alot of idiots out there that dress up their v6 with GT stuff and give them a bad name and also there idiots that dress up gt with "saleesn" or "roush" stuff giving them a bad name when people race them. So dont just think because you smoked a mustang with GT emblems that it was a real GT. Im not trying to flame any one or anything its just that I see alot of those stangs around where I live. To clear something up that I read on an earlier post we have to shift in to 5th gear at 150mph not 120mph. Ok and for them running mid to high 14's. I have a 2001 Mustang Bullitt (since people say its not much different than a GT, I guess I can compare it to one) I took it to the track with bald tire (I mean really bald) and could not get any traction and I also have 1/2 tank of gas (I was not planning on going to the track that day, just drove by and went in) and I ran a 14.3 @ 99.6mph, my 60' were really bad because of my tires 2.3-2.4. I know thats not great but considering the conditions I was in I think it was alright, my car should be running high 13's with less gas and some better tires. Sorry about the long post but I think a 350z with a good driver and a GT with a good driver would make a good race both being 5sp and coupe (I know the 350z does not come in vert). Well like I said dont want to start anything. Any ways nice cars.

Bullitt1067

jester

No, your info was pretty much dead on....and was even impressed that you remembered the 93 Cobra as one of the fastest (if not THE fastest) 5.0.


and "bullitt1067"
With tires and some more gas in the tank you should easily be in the high 13s...
Last time I was at the track (back when I had my 95GT) I went with a bunch of 99+ GT guys, and all of them but one was running consistant high 13s, low 14s...and the bullitt has the better intake from what I remember....

hankd

So it was a convertible. I wonder if it was an automatic too? Could you tell that he was shifting? (significant drops in position relative to you)

Good kill...

You don't shift right at peak HP. From what I've seen, 99+ GT's get the best times shifting in the 5800 rpm range.

LS1?

13.65 is best stock time I've seen for a GT. Great track and great driver. Car only dyno'd 222 RWHP at the time. I would think they'd be close from a roll too? Similar trap speeds, correct?

How so? Stock 5.0's weren't running hi 13's back in the day...

WTF? How do you figure?? Other than reading C&D or MT

Hi 14's for a 99+ GT is a sad time...

Uhhhh LS1 ring a bell?? They're hwy killers...famous for their 3rd gear pull. Their gearing in 1st and 2nd gear actually sucks. That's why you see higher traps than you'd expect to see for their ET.

Bullitt5201

Whazzzzuppppp!!!!

Jeez, almost 2 hours later and I finally get to the end!!!!

My first point is that I think the 350Z is cool no matter how small and ricey it is

I was checking prices on the 350Z at Edmunds... can I clarify what the difference is between the Base, Enthusiast, Performance, Touring and Track editions of the 350Z with consecutive price increases per model?

The average MSRP for the 350Z is appx $30.5 (adding each average MSRP for each model then dividing by 5). The MSRP for a 2002 Mustang GT is about $23k depending where you live. I dont care if any of you paid less because we are compairing the NORM as many of you said over and over in this thread... How in the hell can you compare the two cars in terms of performance? How in the hell can you say that the cost of the vehichle does not weigh in on the level of performance? You want to compare stock for stock but not compare what components are put into the production of the car and how... this doesnt make sense. MSRP on the Mustang Bullitt was about $27K and it WILL hang with the 350Z from start to finish as I proved to MYSELF in a street race with my friend last night. I drove mine, then he drove mine and I drove his... almost exactly equal up to our top speed which was about 150mph both times.

I am going to go buy a 1996 McClaren F1 at $800k with a gold plated engine and run a 3.6 sec. 0-60 time and blow you all to smitherines, that will be the only time I can ever rag on the 350Z I guess.... just kddin

Dont you realize us Mustang Owners out weigh you Z owners 100 to 1, if you post about beating a Mustang, at least .001% of the Mustang owners are going to hate you... and at least .001% of those .001% will find this thread and ruin it

Nice Kill... cant wait to race another 350Z on the street, very even challenge for me!