hey hey, why you gotta pick on the fat kid!

 

What are you talking about? Please refrain from turning a great thread into a pissing match. It was a mere comment between good friends. Believe me when I say we've got more than enough power in the shop to run most things on the street. Hint:



The aim of this build was to see what we could get out of a VQ35DE motor in NA form on pump gas, not specifically to build a car that can beat a C6 Vette. I just made that comment to state that I think Adam's Car will do well against a C6 Vette. I've recently been in a c6 vette and I have been in Adam's car. Adam's car pulls just as hard as a c6 Vette so I think it would be a pretty good match.

 

Those who don't get it, just don't get it I guess. a C6 vette runs a mid 12 give or take, out of the box - very quick car indeed. Given the gearing and weight and power my car is putting down, it will likely run a similar #.

If I wanted a Vette, I would have bought one. My goal is not to "beat" a Vette - I don't drag race, I don't street race, I just do things for my own enjoyment, period. I do like the Z06 quite a bit, but I couldn't live with one everyday. Vettes are also a dime a dozen up here...built Z's such as mine, are not, which is where the appeal, for me, lies.

Don't try to take that quote out of context and turn this thread into something it's not. I am a car guy. I don't hold "grudges" of one car vs another - I have a vast appreciation for all performance oriented cars, regardless of the name on the back. As such, I buy what I like, and I try to make the most of it. This project, like many, started out innocently enough with some bolt ons and ALOT of suspension work (which is what I am good at and appreciate most), and morphed into this all out NA setup when the situation and conditions presented themselves. I also am a "Z" type of guy - I just happen to have a fondness for them, and it's something that's been there since '91, when I got my first one (the blue car shown in the thread).

This is not a "my car is faster than a Vette" or "Vette's watch out" thread - I don't operate like that.

If wanted to go out and dust Vettes, or Vipers, or many bikes for that matter, I can take my other Z out (the old one you see above)...but again, that's not the point (for me).

Again, don't turn this thread into something it's not. It's not a "calling out" of any car for a race, it's merely a highlight about my build.

 

Sounds good. Hope to see you get to your goals with the car. Can't wait to see it done. Exterior and all. Should be awesome.

I am talking to a buddy ,that happens to have a stock block sitting and waiting for someone to buy, to see what we can do with this type of build... Well see. Were in NY again are you guys? My brother goes to Maritime college under the througneck(sp) bridge.

Chris

 

i wasnt making it a "pissing match". I just put the offer out there, and they are more then willing to run. You all should come out to atlanta more often thats all i am saying, the vettes and the Z's out here need something new to run.

 

Im surprized you didnt ask if he wanted to race a supra...

 

....

 

Explain to me why I'd drive 13 hours to street race? How old do you think I am exactly?

 

Is that a serious question, Adam?

Really, though, why in the hell are we talking about "street racing" ignore this kid, better yet, BAN HIM.


-Chris (knows he would be one hell of a **** if he were a moderator)

 

Please troll elsewhere.

 

i wasnt trolling, i am not a kid, z1 is in ga if i am right? right? if i am mistaken with another z1 then sorry.

 

no, we are the first Z1

we're in New York

 

ok sorry about the mix up, hope you have the z33 figured out better then the on in ga....

 

Would you mind if some one else try to copy your engine build .. ?

 

Anyone is welcome to do a build..and I hope to see more guys going the NA route down the road!

Just remember, like a proper FI car, its not just a platter full of parts. It takes a skilled engine builder with the proper tools, and a good installer and tuner to make it work. If you combine that with good quality parts, you'll end up with a successful build everytime

 

I've only read the first and last pages of this thread, so I'm sure this has already been mentioned, but...

THANK YOU!! Firstly, for finally doing something that I've long wanted to do, but lacked the resources for proper R&D of what parts will work best.

Mostly, I want to thank you for NOT using so-called "top of the line parts (i.e. Carrillo rods, Arias pistons and the like). Most knowledgeable builders know that such expensive parts are NOT necessary, but it seems that all too often many, if not most, consumers (at least for our cars) seem to be under the impression that if they don't spend at least $2k-$3k on their rotating assembly then it's just junk. What they fail to realize is the Eagle has been making very high quality, but reasonably priced engine components for many years in the domestic market. Same with Wiseco. Also, much applause for using the stock crank, valves, heads, and bearings.

With the exception of the headwork done and the B&B of the rotating assembly, this could one day be a very affordable build, once more builders get experience and get into the market and (hopefully) bring prices down a bit.

Questions (please slap me if they've already been answered):

- If you know, how would an off-the-shelf MREV2 compare to the custom work you did on your lower collector?

- Did you do any work to the intake manifold?

- WTH happened to all the pics??????

 

thanks for the kind words and encouragement!

to be honest, I can't say exactly how an MREV2 would compare. But, prior to even selecting pistons, etc, I had sent the rev up and non rev up collectors to my engine builder for full evaluation. In the work he did, and given my uses and desires for the car, he felt the non revup was the best bet for me. Remember, none of this stuff works in a vacuum - NA is very different from an FI setup. In FI, boost is the great equalizer. Even a less than ideal (and in some cases, crappy) intake setup can make BIG time numbers. On an NA setup though, its not so. Everything is much more interdependant, and if it's not setup to work together, it tends to fall flat on it's face, or be so completely peaky that its useless to drive on the road.

Yes, there is work done to the middle and upper portions of the intake manifold. In addition to the port work and spacer, my guru spent time working with the upper plenum to ensure the air coming in gets into the heads with as much volume and velocity, as possible. I unfortunately didn't snap pics of it before it went on the car, but there were some parts that were shaved and ported on the upper plenum cover, all towards the goal of getting as much air into the heads as quickly as possible.

Pics? In terms of? There are pics in my first post of the engine setup. I'm sort of keeping the car under wraps just a little while longer until my new bumper/hood/skirts are on and the car is repainted. Should be just a couple more weeks as we're trying to get it ready for an upcoming show. Believe me, I am eager to see how it all turns out (right now its all in my head) and to see if everyone likes the choices I went with this time.

 

<<<< NA fanatic!! i am watching your shop and GTM on your build. taking notes at the same time. then when i have enough dough.......

 

Thanks for giving us na - fans some hope . With such an awesome na set up i hope you will share future info on it to us .

 

thank god! the z1 in west georgia is basically a z31/z32 graveyard. their cars are jokes imo.

and baby_ruiner is my girlfriend. she means no harm... lol she just has a different way of saying things, thats all. i love her to death, but sometimes even i still have to ask her to repeat something or re-read it (if its typed). she's an awesome girl tho, so try to cut her some slack

oh and for the record, she too is going the N/A route with her z33