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Old 12-21-2011, 04:03 PM
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Just got these from the mechanic. Motor goes in tomorrow, If I am lucky I get her back tomorrow!!!!!



He welded the extraneous water fittings that are unnecessary minus the oil warmer.





Old 12-21-2011, 05:20 PM
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Niiiiiiiiiiiice.
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This shop seems to be your golden ticket. Good luck for real this time.
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Glad to see it's finally coming together. Good luck man!
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wow, you just blew past me as far as progress goes, cant wait for videos
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Waiting for the call it's alive.










Old 12-23-2011, 06:36 AM
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finally!! good luck cant wait to see some dyno charts.
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10 am Wednesday, it gets tuned & dynoed.
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Stroker installed and broken in on the dyno! 301 WHP/302WTQ

First drive after install

http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...t=4823730f.mp4

http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...t=deb85b06.mp4
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Nice! Glad you kept your chin up and got this thing up and finally running. Looks like you're gonna get some great results out of your car. I can't believe how much progress was just done over the past few days on your car. Who's gonna do the tuning for you?
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It was done at Xact Dyno in Tempe. That is how I got the numbers.

Thanks. I'm glad too!
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I see, i thought it was just a test run prior to your tune on wednesday or did you go back to the future?
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Initially it was set for Wednesday. It was bogging at 4500 or so and stalled once so I was worried about AFRs so I took it over and his 1pm flaked so I got in.

He just sent me this comparison between the old motor with quiet exhaust and now but it is one of the earlier runs before we got 302 TQ.



He said he is out of the shop until Wednesday and will email me the rest of the charts then.
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Nice bump in torque. What did you have on your old engine?
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Underwhelmed with the gains and output to say the least, but I am EXTREMELY happy that you finally have this finished! You can change parts later for more power, but what matters is that you can drive and enjoy it. I'm actually really happy for you man.
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That chart is the last run on the old engine and one of the last on the new. I got 2 more pounds of torque so +53.

Those numbers are with the restrictive (QUIET) exhaust. The cutout refused to open so no clue what difference it would have made.

The gains are almost exactly what was expected. These motors are not conducive to mods NA.

I was hoping for 320/300 and may still get there with a few tweaks and some break in time.
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I have a concern, the oil pressure used to idle about 20 and max out about 90. Now it idles at 20 and over 3k maxes out the gauge at 120.

I have a new Cosworth pump and no oil squirters, Should I be concerned?
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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
That chart is the last run on the old engine and one of the last on the new. I got 2 more pounds of torque so +53.

Those numbers are with the restrictive (QUIET) exhaust. The cutout refused to open so no clue what difference it would have made.

The gains are almost exactly what was expected. These motors are not conducive to mods NA.

I was hoping for 320/300 and may still get there with a few tweaks and some break in time.
I respectfully disagree friend, but if you are happy, I am as well.
Start looking into how to adapt the FWD "HR" manifold to the DE and those new long tubes from PPE and you'll be in business. Those crawfold headers gained next to nothing....
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Originally Posted by KA24DE
I respectfully disagree friend, but if you are happy, I am as well.
Start looking into how to adapt the FWD "HR" manifold to the DE and those new long tubes from PPE and you'll be in business. Those crawfold headers gained next to nothing....
We are not friends, if you feel the need to crap on threads go elsewhere.

I built this motor 100% the way my needs dictated. It gives me what I want which is a powerful daily driver that has an acceptable (TO ME) amount of NVH. I traded some power for a quiet exhaust which rules out long tubes and by the way, the ART pipes made great gains on the Megan headers nearing long tube numbers.
Old 12-25-2011, 10:12 AM
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^think he was giving you advice/options dude. if your trying to squeeze out more power, look into cams and cam timing. sg motorsports from canada made right around 350rwhp from their n/a setup and alot of it was cam timing. and that was on a 3.5l

for your question on no oil squirters,i think you'll be fine as your forged pistons cool off alot faster than your oem pistons. i saw alot of evo guys remove their oil squirters when they swapped to forged internals because their pistons didnt get nearly as hot as the oem's did


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