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Old 02-13-2012, 12:20 PM
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interesting info, just a shot in the dark, but I think your osiris logs will show you that your oil pressure at 600 rpm is low, and therefore is not engaging VCT like it should, but when the rpm raises enough to engage enough oil pressure you are fine. To be honest, I think this problem will probably work itself out during break in. With those BC stage 2 cams, you probably should have at least an 800 rpm idle, have you had any stalling issues or any stuttering at idle?

I hate sound problems on forums, it is impossible to recreate a sound problem on video... We want to help but it is hard too... I wish you at least had a cypher cable, those logs and being able to raise your idle alittle would probably be very beneficial. Best of luck here and if there is anyway I can help, let me know.
Old 02-13-2012, 12:23 PM
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also, what weight oil are you using, how many miles do you have on the new motor? Have you looked all over the engine for oil leaks? Have you changed the oil yet? I would strain it out and see what comes out, my first 2 oil changes looked ugly, but cleared up and the car made more power by about 5000 miles
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i agree about the oil pressure, which is what makes me think i might have some sort of internal leak that causes just enough of a pressure drop at idle to make things noisey. before my next oil change, im going to run some seafoam through the oil to maybe clear out some blocked passages if that is the case. other than that, idk

i do have a cypher cable, i have the full tuning package. is it easy to raise the idle? maybe i should do that so it isnt so noisy anymore
Old 02-13-2012, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Classy
also, what weight oil are you using, how many miles do you have on the new motor? Have you looked all over the engine for oil leaks? Have you changed the oil yet? I would strain it out and see what comes out, my first 2 oil changes looked ugly, but cleared up and the car made more power by about 5000 miles
right now i have 200-300 miles on the car. i lost track because of resetting the ecu so many times. i am on the second batch of oil, first was joe gibbs break in oil, now pennzoil plat 5w30 full synthetic. no leaks and no codes. when i dumped the oil the first time, it looked really clean, but had only 150 miles on it or so.
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He Changed the oil. Did you? To 5w30? Or still on the breakin oil?
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don't quote me because I never had a cable. But I am pretty sure you can raise the idle. I have mixed feelings about seafoam.
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please keep us updated on what happens with the idle correction, and I will keep looking for what cypher says about oil pressure and VTC
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im 95% sure i can raise the idle with the software, im just not sure how. and osiris will not tell me oil pressure.
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i will def keep this updated on all things for sure.
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Originally Posted by bjmax
He Changed the oil. Did you? To 5w30? Or still on the breakin oil?
youre right, i switched to pennzoil plat 5w30. maybe i should try 10w30?
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5w30 is fine. Lets see What It will do when raising the idle. And about oil pressure can't hurt to buy a nice one.
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oh, you mean a nice oil pressure tester?
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oil pressure gauge on your dash. So you can always see it.
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Originally Posted by bjmax
oil pressure gauge on your dash. So you can always see it.
yea, eventually that is a definite possibility, but for now i just need a tester to see what my oil pressure is
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Originally Posted by mgrotel
im 95% sure i can raise the idle with the software, im just not sure how. and osiris will not tell me oil pressure.
You can raise your idle through cipher. Don't need the tuner program.
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you cannot raise idle with just cipher. you have to reflash your car, so you need the tuner program
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i have a consult II cable. and that works fine.. i can raise it to 950 rpm..
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doesnt matter, i have the tuner version anyway
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small update, over 100 miles and no code at all, so i think its safe to say the code was from the bad bank 2 solenoid that i swapped out. did some more listening to the noise last night with a bunch of extensions attached together to try and narrow down where it was coming from. im not positive, but pretty sure its coming from the timing chain, probably getting slack in it at idle and slapping the covers. although, for a while last night, it was idling and not doing it. so, i think ill see if it works itself out of it, otherwise might be one of the chain tensioners. thats all i have for now
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does the manual detail out how to raise the idle and flash the ecu? thanks


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