Anyone know of any vendor making a NOS kit that could coincide with my Stillen SC?

 

Only NOS (Holley) produces NOS. If you're referring to nitrous kits, then there are plenty. The Search is your friend.

 

MaxHax, that you?

Anyway, I'd go with a ZEX kit.

 

yo skl100 did you recently race a silver gti and talk to some z guy over the phone? if that was you what up that was me on the phone

 

Haha.. right on John.

 

I would be kinda weary of spraying nitrous with a boosted aplication... I would wait for an intercooler and spray nitrous on that.

 

NOS n SC/TT... poppitty pop pop if you dont get some help with the fuel/air.

you should worry about getting that intake temp lower!! insulate that AEM tube man!

 

No more intake tubing from AEM. Goy my stock intake back on there. By the way I got your email about westwood and that probably was me since I live in Westwood racing around in a silver SC Z. Intercooler is being tested and of course I am putting that in there right away. As far as the NOS comment. I appreciate wisecracks but I think you knew what i meant John.

 

skk100, like G3P0 posted in another of your threads, I think water injection would be ideal with the Stillen setup. The water injected to the hot compressed air would immediately cool it 75°F as well as prevent detonation because of the now lower intake charge temperature and be able to increase octane depending on how much methanol is mixed with the water.

Here's how Kenne Bell does it and here's Carrol Supercharging's take on it.

One more thing of note if you're still wary. Saab 9-5's come from the factory water injected.

Take what I say with a grain of salt and do your own research however as I have no experience with this... yet. I'm still weighing all of my options as I don't have a car to toy with, doh! Good luck.

 

well.. you *could* run 30 shot N20, it would have sort of the effect of water injection... since n20 when sprayed ontop of the intercooler would cool it down significantly, but since your intercooler will be mushed inbetween the blower and the intake ports... i dunno how effective that will be... water injection directly into the engine like that.. is it safe? i've heard of injecting into the pipe prior to it entering the throttle body but never a direct tap...??

pitty you dont have an external intercooler.. i plan on going with an external intercooler spray unit such as the NX N-terCooler... or a simple 50%alcohol/50%water sprayed into a mist onto the core... alchohol evaps (as you may know) very quickly, taking alot of heat with it...

FYI.. i was getting intake temp readings of around 103*F WITH my TT kit...

 

From everything that I've read about the water injection, yes, it's safe. It's sprayed in at pressure and a fine mist as well as at such a small volume that there's no risk of hydrolock, if that's the concern. Maybe to get even distribution it would take two nozzles. Guess that depends on the exact arrangement. I'd consult Aquamist on this.

The water vapor that makes it into the cylinder aids in keeping things cool, preventing hotspots, and detonation. Water takes a large amount of btu's to change its state to steam which is why the combustion remains cooler. This in and of itself would be robbing power but the fact that water expands something like 1000x it's volume when going to steam basically counteracts it.

Now that the cylinder's cooler, a more correct air fuel ratio can be run as well as increasing the boost and/or timing. So I've read. like I posted before, I wish I had first hand experience so I could reassure you further but I don't. One caveat about the Aquamist system, it's expensive. If anyone researches this further and finds out more, I'd be interested in hearing it.

Check this out, Cheston, for external intercooler water spray. This writeup really interested me in that as well. They made an adjustable controller that is smart as well as stingy with the water spray so you're not always having to refill the H2O reservoir every other time ya boost.

 

Bait-fish--
WOW! thanks for that article..

really cool reading...
i found this local parts store that has those misting type hardware.. i.e. think of your local infomercials at like 2am.. the Misty Mate (TM) devices... gives water a really fine mist.. atomizes the water.... but its an idea-- i might ask the local Home Depot how they set up their warm-weather misters...

 

You're welcome. Yeah, I'm sure the type and how many nozzles would have a lot to do with how well it works as well. Keep us updated!

Ack, kinda feel like I hijacked skk100 a bit here. I don't believe that there's really a kit that wouldn't work with in conjunction with the Stillen S/C. You'd have to do it wet manifold style (N2O and fuel). A concern of mine is I don't know how much to trust the ZEX TPS switch after reading some of the stories here and I don't trust a micro switch mounted at the gas pedal because the traction control system can close the electric throttle while you're still injecting, a possible fatal instance for the engine.

I've since cooled to going FI right off and will likely use my old N2O system when my Gc arrives. I'll know better how to tackle my switch concerns when I can look at things in person... I hope.