my first speeding ticket >:( can i get by w/ out points? (Morris County, NJ)
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my first speeding ticket >:( can i get by w/ out points? (Morris County, NJ)
i posted this in the main forum, but since laws vary from state to state i decided to copy and paste in here
If you can offer any advice for me and don't care for the story just skip to the last paragraph, I really appreciate the help!
It was me, a Caravan, and a Buick heading down Rt.10 (3 lanes), the road was pretty empty we were all going about 10mph over. We weren't "really" speeding because we had just passed someone who had been pulled over about 200ft before we ran into the this patrol car. I had a 10:00 class, it was just me and my friend in the Z, about a mile away from my school. I was in the left lane, the Caravan and Buick were in the middle and the right was empty, the officer was pulling out of a shopping center parking lot and we all began braking at the same time (almost looked liked we didn't even brake because it was so synchronized). Anyway, I switched over to the middle lane and got that feeling when I knew I was getting pulled over, and I did. Officer comes over, I am very polite and don't give him any excuses, not even when he tells me he got me doing 76 in a 50 . He said I was going 76, but he clocked me at 73.. I know I was maybe doing 65 at the most! I have a V1 on the windshield (which didn't go off, not even laser), there were two cars in the middle lane blocking me from his view, and we had just literally passed another patrol car, I'm pretty sure he's BS'ing, but I very politely say 'I'm sorry Sir, I didn't realize I was going that fast'. He starts asking me how I pronounce my name (Orhan, I'm Turkish it's really not even hard to say, anyway), I tell him and he gets it after a couple of tries, although I don't understand why this matters. He looks over at my friend and starts asking him why he's not wearing his belt, he didn't have his license on him so the officer goes to the other side of the car and tells him to write down his name, birthdate, social security number he goes back to his car and comes back about 5-10 min. later and gives me a speeding ticket for doing 64 in a 50 I say ok sir, and drive off..
As I'm walking to class my friend and I are looking at the ticket, the kid walking next to us gets into the conversation because he had a ticket in his hand too he had just gotten on the same road, but it wasn't the guy we originally passed.. When I got out of class I saw another person pulled over, and I saw two other patrol cars, ALL within a mile from the school.. wtf?
***Bottomline, my record is clean, this is my first speeding ticket. I don't care about the fine, but I really do not want the insurance company to find out!! I pay insurance for my parents Windstar, which is more then what my mom pays for the Z. The kid I was talking to on my way to class said I can go to the prosecutor and say I want to pay for an 'Unsafe Driving' and the fine will double, but insurance will not find out. He said he has done it, can I do this?
If you can offer any advice for me and don't care for the story just skip to the last paragraph, I really appreciate the help!
It was me, a Caravan, and a Buick heading down Rt.10 (3 lanes), the road was pretty empty we were all going about 10mph over. We weren't "really" speeding because we had just passed someone who had been pulled over about 200ft before we ran into the this patrol car. I had a 10:00 class, it was just me and my friend in the Z, about a mile away from my school. I was in the left lane, the Caravan and Buick were in the middle and the right was empty, the officer was pulling out of a shopping center parking lot and we all began braking at the same time (almost looked liked we didn't even brake because it was so synchronized). Anyway, I switched over to the middle lane and got that feeling when I knew I was getting pulled over, and I did. Officer comes over, I am very polite and don't give him any excuses, not even when he tells me he got me doing 76 in a 50 . He said I was going 76, but he clocked me at 73.. I know I was maybe doing 65 at the most! I have a V1 on the windshield (which didn't go off, not even laser), there were two cars in the middle lane blocking me from his view, and we had just literally passed another patrol car, I'm pretty sure he's BS'ing, but I very politely say 'I'm sorry Sir, I didn't realize I was going that fast'. He starts asking me how I pronounce my name (Orhan, I'm Turkish it's really not even hard to say, anyway), I tell him and he gets it after a couple of tries, although I don't understand why this matters. He looks over at my friend and starts asking him why he's not wearing his belt, he didn't have his license on him so the officer goes to the other side of the car and tells him to write down his name, birthdate, social security number he goes back to his car and comes back about 5-10 min. later and gives me a speeding ticket for doing 64 in a 50 I say ok sir, and drive off..
As I'm walking to class my friend and I are looking at the ticket, the kid walking next to us gets into the conversation because he had a ticket in his hand too he had just gotten on the same road, but it wasn't the guy we originally passed.. When I got out of class I saw another person pulled over, and I saw two other patrol cars, ALL within a mile from the school.. wtf?
***Bottomline, my record is clean, this is my first speeding ticket. I don't care about the fine, but I really do not want the insurance company to find out!! I pay insurance for my parents Windstar, which is more then what my mom pays for the Z. The kid I was talking to on my way to class said I can go to the prosecutor and say I want to pay for an 'Unsafe Driving' and the fine will double, but insurance will not find out. He said he has done it, can I do this?
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Yes you can plead down first offenses most of the time (called first time offenders forgiveness or something like that), fines are a few hundred. Did you ever think to question how he caught your speed? If he said he got u on radar go to the courthouse and ask for the certification on that car's unit, detectors aren't illegal - if it didn't go off at all why not say that in court?
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