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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 08:19 AM
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I know some of you guys have had Gruppe-S install your suspension upgrades. Did they do the alignment also? Do you have copies of your final specs?

I've had Eibachs in for some time now and even with adjustable camber/traction rods the dealer can't get the rear within specs. Either they can't figure out how to adjust using multiple adjustment points or my frame may be bent (worse case). They don't have a problem getting the right side correct but the left just will no work.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 11:17 AM
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Gruppe-S doesn't do alignment work. If it's just simple Shock and Spring install, they're very capable. If you are going TEINS and EDFC, may be you should go else where. I am not saying they;re not good, but Jason had his TEINs and EDFC installed there, and they didn't know which wire and fuse to tap for the EDFC to work properly. Jason end up going to my guy to fix the EDFC power issue. Good luck!!
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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Might want to try Custom Alignment in Mountain View:

Custom Alignment-Balance
2599 Wyandotte Street
Mountain View, CA 94043
(650) 961-5311

Highly recommended for any suspension/alignment needs.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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Unfortunately thats the problem with the eibachs. You have to spend more money to fix the problem of getting those on.

A rear camber arm is probably the correct way to fix the alignment for the car to get proper tire wear.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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Unfortunately thats the problem with the eibachs. You have to spend more money to fix the problem of getting those on.

A rear camber arm is probably the correct way to fix the alignment for the car to get proper tire wear.
Unfortunately those solved the camber problem but then put the toe way out. You correct the toe and the camber goes back out. Right now I've got them evenly balanced but not within specs. We'll just have to see how the tires wear.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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So where is a good place to get TOE RODs and Camber Arms?

Yuichi,

Do you sell them?
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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Best bang for the buck:

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=31426
(the pic with them on the car is mine)

or you can try eccentric bushings:

http://www.k-mac.com.au/makes/nissan.htm
(there's a thread about these too with pics)

JIC makes some too (look identical to LSD's but cost twice as much).

Stillen offers camber rods also. Nicely machined but again expensive.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 03:57 PM
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OK I found the thread about the bushings.

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....amber+bushings
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Thanks for the info.
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Old Aug 18, 2003 | 07:43 PM
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hey zwindsor- the guys at Gruppe-S are great but they are definitely mechaincal guys. As Moodie mentioned we had some trouble tapping the correct accessory wire to get the EDFC running. However they did excellent work on the coilovers and my sway bars. You may also want to try Robert at Stage Motorsports (he shares space with StrictlyZ). He did my headers and is an extremely knowledgable guy.
As far as getting your camber lined up, most tire shops can do your alignment for you- you shouldn't need camber bars or traction rods for the Eibachs. The stock Z suspension allows for some very minor adjustment. When I had my Tein's installed I left the front at the stock drop of 10mm I had the rear dropped about 40mm. Let the suspension settle and took it to get aligned- they were able to get the camber to -1 degrees all the way around.
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 07:33 AM
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Thanks guys for all your input. The trend I see here is that the lower the drop the easier it is to get alignment closer to spec. Also those with coilover setups are also better. You get what you pay for!

I'm going to try a frame shop and see if they can do a better job then the dealer (3 times).
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