Hey,

Where were the Zs?. Was anybody at the Peal Harbor Auto show, this weekend June 11. There was no Zs at all rep'n for us except for one stock 06, with only an exhaust. I'm here in vacation (Leave), My Z is in Storage....dam I wish I could have shown. The neons, Hondas, scions, one G35 (nice and moded) all were out in full force except for the any Zs. What happened? I really thought the Zs on Oahu would be representing hard. Anyways...it was a nice show. A better representation from the Z crowd would have made the day though.

 

I see

 

When there was early regestration I didnt know if I was going to be in town or not so I didnt enter. I still showed and my Z was on the other side of the fence in the big lot. Meet Juan (stock 06 W/ ground wires and exhaust). After seeing what all was in the import catagory next year I'll definately throw my name in the hat.

 

Hell yeah! I be there with ya at the the next years show. As soon as my Z get shipped, hood and lambo doors put on...I'll be right in the mix. As far as the show. I got there around 1200, saw only one Z, got disappointed and left. I didn't even see juan cause he wasn't there, some guys was watching his car for him. AYE...you gotta give juan his props for showing though...at least there was one...I felt better. Oh, well next time. Hey, I'm here at the pearl harbor guest house. I'll be here until 21 June 06. Go back to Korea, then come back in Aug for the birth of my son. At that time I should be here for good and the Z shipped and already here waiting to be picked up.....holla back so we can hook up and meet the guys or something before I leave. Getting married tomorrow...well single days are over. BUT IM STILL KEEPING MY Z!!!!

 

I might dab into the show thing. I was never really into the show thing...a lot of the road racers never used their cars in shows, but since there's no track...now I need something else to do. the toughest part is deciding. my girlfriend recently acquired her motocycle license and now wants to ride my 636 here and there and I had to lower the bike despite her height, so I was thinking about using the 636 as my drag bike to bring up to Hilo. and I've been looking into getting another motorcycle too, possibly a cruiser this time around, but I still want another sportbike.

 

Yeah that was me at the show.. I went with my buddies which by the way most of them have an EVO. I wasn't stock.. I just dont have anything noticable in the exterior... for example rims, a kit or that kind of stuff.. I have plenty of bolt ons not to mention the ones in my living room right now.. AAM angled spacer, walbro fuel pump, nismo spoiler, tein flex's, JWT clutch and flywheel, tomei LSD <-- which unfortunately been to lazy to drop off at vakamon.. am just waiting on JWT to come up with some good cams and afterwards give aam a call to work on my custom re-flash cuz when I installed the spacer.. the car was running extremely lean.. so maybe after installing all that I consider some rims.. hopefully we get a better turn out next year with more Z's but then again the last come of meet and greets have been bad.. I dnt know what's up with us but oh well.

 

JWT S1's are pretty decent from what I've see in reviews and Dyno results. I liked the reviews so much I bought a set and they are waiting to be throw in when I get the bottom end built. For now they are sealed in a bag with desacat and the HD valve springs and shims and fully coated in oill and sealed away.

Most of the engine builders are saying 50hp or so for FI and 15-20 for NA. So I'm looking at a short block 9.0:1, L19 studs, Overzelouse head mod, rear cylinder cooling mod, the S1's w/ valve springs, and liberal boost. Gonna try for 550 to 600 ish by next spring.

So that will be good to show, I wont have to hang my head low next to the blinged out Z's if I do any shows. I guess I'm kinda going for the free for all king of the rock Z title. So for some of you that may have the wings for doors, I'll be the one flying.

 

whats up juan,

Sorry, no disrespect intended. I didn't know you had those mods mentioned. At just a glance I thought it was stock, with an exhaust. Im glad you showd though, you were the only one. My Z still in storage, I'm waiting on orders reassigning me from Korea to Hawaii...wish me luck. My wife is stationed at Tripler so I hope that helps....Married Army couples program. Anyways, I wanna go TT or ST or supercharger...dunno know yet. JWT makes a good system I've read about, APS and Turbonectics....can't make up my mind though. I'll be back on the island on 10 Aug - 7 Sep for the birth of my son. Sad that the guys can't get it together though...keep try'n.

 

Its easier to see when you get here. It's the whole drive to town thing or the driving through town.

In FL I was down for a 1 hour drive for a meet in Orlando or 2.5 to Daytona, or 3.5 to Miami for the weekend. Here is just diffrent I guess from the laid back mentalitly and the traffic people are motivated to only certain extent. This is no direct responce to any one or every one. I try to do what I can for people and the sceen where ever I go, maintence advice, even a track sceen when I can make it (thats over).

I was building for the track but that is a fairy tale now. So now all I have are meets and building, it seems easier to build.

 

Understood, I was there for about 3 weeks, seems like getting from point A to b is a hassle. I was in Miami, and would have meets there. Yeah, there traffic...but south beach...was worth it. In Texas, I would drive 2 hours to Dallas, 3 hours to Houston, for meets of cours stay the night sometimes. ZOZ out of Dallas was my club. As for me, I dont mind, hittn the road to meet up. I can't wait to get settled and get my Z to the island. Then we can hang at my crib. Hey, I want to get with you on the FI tip. Im on the the learning curve about FI...I wanted a procharger or Vortec but now Im lookin at a TS or TT. I when my Z arrives I want to start building it. I've read alot, but need some real advice. Any help and guidance would be cool.

 

You need to look at your over all power goals and compatability of parts being 05 and up are diffrent platforms that are not fully supported.

I'm having back track alittle because when I was building 3" true dual exhausts were not available. So I went with what I felt was the right choice. Now that the 3"s are out (so to speak) Im looking at going that route. The most important part is knowing what your end goal is.

I see alot of people buying a spacer then a plenum with out the spacer then a CAI then a SC the Go TT. Yeah that will eat up cash quick.

What power goals are you looking at? Mine have always been arround 650WHPish. So when I did my list I went for what I knew would get me there at that point then broke it up in stages. I was buying and building so much at one point that I was starting one stage before I was finished with the other. All I realy have left is the Engine and Half shafts. Well thats grouping a bit, forged short block 9.0:1, S1 cams and HD valve springs, Solid motor mounts, SVRtech head mod, rear cylinder cooling mod, & L19 head studs is what I'm calling the engine. The half shafts are gonna be LV 5 from Drive shaft shop.

At that point I'm gonna REALY test the limits of the JWT clutch! as I said before 550 -600 ish the end goal is 650 or so.

The 3" is more of a try to fenagel thing, If I can get a buyer for the SES I have for $500 I'll get the SVRT 3".

But warning though; if you go all out, its a long, hard, frusterating, EXPENSIVE road, but its freakin FUN as hell.

Here is some catching up for you about my ongoing build from newest to oldest. Some are trouble threads and others are true how to build threads. There is more out there but I cant find em too tired this will get you started a bit:

https://my350z.com/forum/pacific/183086-making-a-stiffie.html
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/188330-k-and-n-filter-relocation-test.html
https://my350z.com/forum/forced-induction/193946-warning-greddy-tt-owners-with-banjo-bolts.html
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-suspension/183283-body-suspention-tuning-feedback-wanted.html
https://my350z.com/forum/pacific/156093-ballz-deep-part-2-a.html
https://my350z.com/forum/pacific/165061-will-my-luck-ever-change.html
https://my350z.com/forum/pacific/133994-f-the-fealer-going-ballz-deep.html


Note to all and make a long post longer, I'm not saying I am the end all be all builder or carmodding guy here. I've just done alot of research and have had alot of experience with this build and will be more than happy to help any way I can. Anb bable for half a page too.

 

Aight...thanks. I want to do it right the first time. I'm not going for the 500 or 650hp range. Just to build around 380-450hp range at the most. I dont want to be just another Z that has the look but no go. I dont have to be the fastest but just enough to run outrun the average GTOs, Z06s, etc. Overcourse, finances come into play since I have a little one on the way, but I have money saved up for the project. Reading your post, makes me feel like, I have so much to do and so far behind. when, I get to the Island, in Aug, I'd like to see your car. You're in Aiea right? Yeah, I like to get the fever like you and get sick wit it...I know its fun and can't wait to get back to it. thanks for the threads and links. I need to get edjamacated on this. As it looks I want to go Turbo but not spending an arm and a leg though. And no I dont want the project to eat up the cash, this just a hobby and for fun.

 

What you describbed WHP range, cost, and overall build your looking at probably Turbonetics ST or APS ST.
They are cheaper than the TT kit and over all other complimentary parts are cheaper well atleast the exhaust and install. You can go for a 3" exhaust for less than the price of a 2.5" dual.

I noticed the prices have been going up since I bought my TT. I got a Greddy TT FMIC that was suposed to be a tuner for $4500 and it ended up being the full kit, injectors, emanage harnesses and all. So when all the extra parts are sold it will be arround 4K yeah quite a steal. Do your homework and research and if you buy more at one time you can usualy work a better deal.

I'll be back the first week in september you can take a look at the car then. Im about 2/3 into the build so kinda like the home stretch, just a bunch of little things and 1 or 2 big ones. I'm looking at winter 07 to have the car finished. If its sooner the AWSOME!!!! oh yeah end its on track to be paid off by the same time so it will truly be MY CAR then.

oh yeah one more thing I forgot to add to my list.... BBK.

A good guy to talk to is SonicZ33, Seth runs a shop off of republican good bunch of guys it seems. Name of the shop is Sonic's (I always butcher the last part). Seth is one of the if not the most knowlageable Z33 guys there on island. Do not go to Hypersport, they rip people off and have **** for work from what I've heard.

 

Thanks for the info. Your're right for what I'm looking in gains and cost, ST is the way to goe. But I did notice the the price range for an ST is about the same for a TT though. I'm running the catback Invidia exhaust system I happy with it. I was hopin not to change it out as of yet. As it looks now, I'm torn between the Turbonetics ST or APS ST. I'm still doing my research and comparing the two...price, power, longevity, maintenance etc. For what you paid for your Greddy, the STs cost more, dam! you got a great deal. Yeah, want everthing at once and not piece it up. okay, so I hope to see the car before I leave the island in Sep. My Z should be paid off by Jan/Feb 08. Can't wait for that day either! I could do alot for the Z with that extra cash. All the work would be done on the Island, so thanks for the shop info. I need to know who to go to when in need. Do they order parts, STs, TT, ect? or just work on them. Again, all the work will be done there once my car gets on Island.

 

Yes, Sonic orders parts. They are a true race shop, they have there own race cars, had the race team thing with the superlaps and drift sessions. All arround great shop.

So not to undercut any one most of the vendors here on this site will work with you on prices. The only thing I payed shipping for was my suspention, wheels and tires. Every thing else no cost shipping.

I dont know if we can get the longevity thing down because we are still in a 5 year shakedown period for all these new products so there is no real definative base line if your baasing your opinion on statistics. If you look at the overall components you can not go wrong with external wastegate turbo system (generaly) It's easier to modify and control boost from a basic maintence stand point but the exo gates require extra plumbing.

With the exhaust your either gonna need a revers Y pipe or sell your exhaust and and get a single 3 inch which will flow great and have good gaind with the ST set up. Or if you realy wanted to keep your exhaust and maybe get headers you can go with a centrifugal SC. Acts on the same compression principle as a turbo but mechanicly driven by the engine. You'll get the nice SC whine but people know what your packing. At least with a turbo you can hide it a little.

On second thought you'll end up dumping more money into it trying to bump boost up.... at least with a turbo you can do a boost controler, you can with a SC but only to limit boost below your pulley max psi. Sure there are a few tricks to put out more boost like using UR crank pullies and oversized accessory pullies to keep them at the same speed. This will increase the output of the SC but you have to calculate your gains so you dont over rev your SC this is where the boost controler comes in. But I digress this is a totaly diffrent thread all together.

Where you going in September and when. Like I said I'll be back on the 1st of Sept. I'll give you a PM.

 

Thanks bro for all the info. I'll take everything into consideration. I really want to keep the exhaust...guess I fell in love with the sound and look. Revers Y pipe sounds like the best bet with the ST setup. You mentioned free shippn...I'm trying to get a Sebion TS II carbon fiber hood sent to Hawaii, I've called different vendors that offered free shippin stateside but when I mentioned Hawaii...they wanted to charge for shippin cost. Is that normal? Anyways, I'll be around the TRipler Army Hospital housing Area for the birth of my son...near Fort Shafter from 10 Aug until 7 Sep...then return back to Korea. My wife is moving into Military housing..called AMR near the base. I hopfully after that...I'll be back for good in Oct if everything works out as planned. I'll get with you then. When my car gets there...If you dont mind I need you to check it out so I can get busy with moddin...I have lost just about a year with my Z being in storage to catch up on. Sometimes, I've even forgot I even have a Z...I have to look at pics and the forum to remind myself. Laterz

 

No sweat I'll let you know when I'm arround. on the shipping generaly if you order alot from the vendor $1000 plus at a pop they will drop shipping if they want your business. One shop I used I ordered over $13,000 of stuff at once they shipped for free and took $3,000 off the price making it $10, 000 even.

No matter what your gonna get screwed on shipping if you mention Hawaii. The thing you need to do is win an auction on ebay that say free shipping with in the US. They have to ship, hawaii is the 50th state. I had got 2 vendors for flat out refusing to send me the item I won. They were suspended from ebay so they no longer have a store on there. Squaretrade removed my funds from there account and suspended there assets pending a financial practices review. Thats were the suspention came in.

Hell even most dealers here on hawaii tack on the shipping charge for parts. Wheels, tires, seats, you name it they try to recoupe there money from you instead of eating it as operating costs as mainland companies do. As a wise buyer shop arround and make your money work for you but definately from what I've seen the best place for the insall is sonics hands down.

 

Hey bro....did you see a thread on the forum about tunedwhips.com asking for 350Zs to sponsor? well I shot them an email and pics from work....didn't think they were going to write back but this is what they wrote....check it out. Is that price good for the Greddy TT setup?

Email:

From: Tuned Whips [mailto:sales@tunedwhips.com]
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:33 AM
To: Jackson, Joseph A SFC EUSA G1 R5
Subject: RE: Sponsorship

Hello Joseph A. Jackson.

Very Nice pictures of your 350Z. Well I think you and your car would be a great representation for tuned whips. Are you interested in the Greddy Twin Turbo kit for your 350z. Cost on the kit would be 4347 for the Bolt on Turbo Kit, and 1135 for the Intercooler. That One Bolt On Option. There are many ways about going performance for your ride.

Please let me know what Interests you have for motor Mods.


Thank you
Chris K
647-430-0494/1-866-334-3935
sales@tunedwhips.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Jackson, Joseph A SFC EUSA G1 R5 [mailto:joseph.jackson@us.army.mil]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:30 PM
To: sales@tunedwhips.com
Subject: Sponsorship

I’m interested in sponsorship. I’m in the Army, I think my Z would represent your company and products very well. I already have a host of mods but interested in engine performance and other things. I have attached some pics.

SFC Joseph A. Jackson
R5 Requirements and Operations NCOIC

 

Thats an ok price about 600 less than most places. but look at the whole kit price and compair it to others. They break down the FMIC to make it look like the kit is way cheaper though, verry common practice. However, no one in there right mind would even think about dropping a TT kit on this car with out FMIC. so you automaticly add the 2 prices.

Compare that and shop arround. Did they specify the term of the sale; show, meets, pics, crappy decals, ect? Yeah you may have $600 off the price but in the end with entry fees and all the hoops they want you to jump through your only looking at maybe $300 in savings and to mee $300 is a fair price of dignity not to be some ones B!TCH OF A BILLBOARD. Now if we were talking like a grand maybe agrand and a half, yep I'll be in that line waiting.

I may shoot them a message to see what they have, Comming into a set of heads cheap cheap ($300ish) along with the Ferrera +1mm stainless and double coil springs for less than half price. So I may have some JWT valve springs for sale if your interested. Like make an offer type cheap.

 

That price is pretty good. For them to give it to you at that cost, it's pretty much they're giving it to you at their cost unless they made some kind of screwed up deal with satan and greddy. Unfortunately its like Mike said, you will kind of be their *****. Depends what they ask. If they want like a 1 foot long sticker on your car and some pictures. Go for it.

For me I'd rather not sell the kit for less than $6500 shipped here with intercooler. So ussually when someone calls I tell them its cheaper online, but I'd be more than happy to install it for them. I feel that people could save that money online and put it towards more parts. The good thing about ordering through us is if something is wrong (eg taking too long to ship) then you have someone on island to yell at(us)The good thing for me though is if I order it, I can ***** to greddy easier about the kit. Every kit I did, except 1, had either a badly manufactured part, or missing parts. (Theres so many parts I think their stock guys don't really bother making sure everything is there)So I'm always either sourcing things out or having to call greddy to get it replaced. Let me tell you man those guys are hard to deal with. Well supposidly some things changed around there recently so maybe its better.

Any questions on installs or parts you can give me a call at the shop 845-1192. Ask for me directly whenever it regards 350zs or G35s.

Seth