buzzardmountain

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I think I'm giving up on that crusade.......why not implement it on the entire site in all sections. If one section can have it, why not all of them. I just don't understand.....

Dynosty

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Dynosty

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Correct, on the cars with a throttle-body-closing limiter, an ecu reflash to raise the limiter / eliminate the throttle body from closing would allow you to rev as high as you wish with the Haltech. The Haltech has a rev-limiter feature, so if you were to reflash your stock ecu to 10,000rpm you could adjust the limiter to wherever you liked below that. You could also build different limiters into your maps, for example a street limiter of 7000rpm and a race limiter of 8000rpm.

IntenseFab

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Have you guys had any issues with the Factory ECU being piggybacked by the haltech. Like closing throttle, or limp mode etc in other instances then revving higher then what the factory ecu is allowed?

__jb

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Very interesting. I have been wondering how my Osiris would blend in with the HalTech.

I currently have a '05 G35 6mt RevUp motor (NA) and UpRev's Osiris. I have the RPM limit raised to 7200 and the throttle body reprogrammed in Osiris. It sounds like that will still help out, even with the HalTech.

It sounds like it will always help out to have a flash with the HalTech (if you have a RevUp motor). My plan is to have UpRev make a map that is designed to work with the HalTech dyno tune. Sound like a good idea?

helldorado

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Excellent, thank you.

rcdash

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I also use Osiris with the Haltech, mostly for the speed limiter and idle adjustments (in addition to Cipher diagnostics). UpRev created a custom flash that had target AFR values for the stock ECU that matched the AF dyno curve that Sharif sent me. This was in an attempt to get rid of the "too rich" CEL. Only after they sent me the map, they told me they can get rid of whatever CEL I want - you just have to give them the code and they can essentially take it out of the stock ECU program. Pretty cool.

helldorado

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I'm assuming you're using 1 laptop for both programs? Any issues going that route? With Osiris having that kind of flexibility to delete codes, really seems like the most effective tool to complement the Haltech.

rcdash

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Yep, both on the same "car pc" or laptop... I've had both running at once with gauge displays open at once on both software packages. No problems. You do have to be a bit careful with your PC's standby mode with Osiris (it will lock up coming back from standby; so I use a program to close and restart Osiris automatically). Haltech software so far appears to be crash proof (*knock on wood*).

BlackStar

So far this looks pretty cool. If I DON'T get my stock ECU reflashed what codes will normally be set with the Haltech?

__jb

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That is pretty cool... Good info, thanks. Just heard that the Osiris Real Time Tuner version will be free to all current Osiris owners. That's cool.

I hope to get my HalTech installed day after tomorrow along with my first dyno tune. I'm looking forward to it!

rcdash

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What do you mean "normally"? The Haltech doesn't throw any codes on its own. If you run too rich or too lean (compared to what the stock ECU expects), then it's gonna complain. If you're not running test pipes, then it shouldn't be an issue. Codes being thrown aren't due to the Haltech (unless it's poorly tuned of course).

EDIT: Actually if you mess with the intake cam timing, then I believe the stock ECU will throw a code for that also cause it'll see that it's not where it should be. Another good reason to get Osiris to block that sort of stuff so that when you do get a code, you know it's something worth paying attention to. I don't have a revup so no experience with exhaust cam timing adjustments. My code for intake would only be thrown at high revs (which is where it was tweaked by Sharif to keep power from dropping - I have JWT S2 cams).

BlackStar

Well yes, I would intend to actually use the haltech to tune the cams and AFR and if the factory ECU is still watching them to see that thay are stock like then they would set a code that I would attribute to the Haltech. Nothing wrong with that, I just want to know which ones would be normally encountered in "normal" tuned haltech operation.

rcdash

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I think we're on the same page. If you throw the Haltech on a stock, NA car and tune it "to spec", then it should not throw any codes. If you want to go beyond OEM specifications, then you will need to deal with resultant complaints from the stock ECU including but not limited to the AFR and intake cam timing. Only those two come to mind as the codes I've dealt with.

617G

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+1 I'd like to get this answered as well...can the use of the Haltech illiminate limp mode?

Dynosty

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Zero problems with throttle closing / limp mode were found in our testing, nor have we received any feedback regarding this (and trust me, we would hear...).

We have customers running over 8000rpm without a problem - here is one for example making nearly 700whp:
https://my350z.com/forum/showpost.ph...3&postcount=46

thawk408

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So in order for me to rev above my stock 7k limiter I have to buy a reflash? Well that just sucks.

minus500

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Thats whay i'm wondering. If you have a non-revup is it possible to raise the limiter using the Haltech or do you still have to buy a reflash?

rcdash

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Hal, I think 617G was asking if the Haltech could eliminate the limp mode from occurring even if it's occurring now (without a Haltech).

If you have a NON-REVUP (04.5 and earlier), then you have a hard fuel cut rev limiter and that is completely overridden by the Haltech, so NO reflash is necessary to raise the rev limit. It is the throttle control that the Haltech leaves to the stock ECU. The 05+ models use the throttle to control the rev limit rather than fuel or ignition cut (so the Haltech does not override that).

I think even the 05+ non-revups have a soft limiter (throttle controlled), but I'm not 100% sure about that. To reiterate, if in your car, the throttle is used to control the rev limit then the current Haltech firmware will not be able to raise it. BUT it can LOWER IT on ALL CARS - using your choice of fuel or ignition cut

617G

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Correct...meaning how much control does the ECU still have over certain processes and will it still go into limp mode if let's say the tranny gets too hot or you throw a code that would normally cause you to go into limp mode for precaution (the VQ is very limp mode happy imo even when stock)? I'll pm you guys a scenario.