Injected Performance brings you HALTECH PLATINUM PNP STANDALONE
12-02-2009, 12:30 PM
#662
Thanks,
I just didnt wanna have to pull the car apart again for the serial. But since you can get it without taking everything out, I'll send you an email when I get home!
I'm sure Sharif could send me a base map as well I bought it from Forged but since you work with them more often, you probably already have something worked up from a previous build.
Thanks!
I just didnt wanna have to pull the car apart again for the serial. But since you can get it without taking everything out, I'll send you an email when I get home!
I'm sure Sharif could send me a base map as well I bought it from Forged but since you work with them more often, you probably already have something worked up from a previous build.
Thanks!
You have two easy ways to use the software away from the car. 1. When the software installs it includes a Pro 350Z base map, so you have this on your computer already. 2. When connected to the car you can File->Save the map that it loads from the ECU.
Power and ground for widebands are included wideband breakout connector on the current patch harnesses. Otherwise they can be found on the following pins on harnesses w/out wideband breakout:
C1 - 12v
C10 - Ground
Serial number is found on the ecu or in the software via Tools->Firmware Version. Feel free to seek base map assistance elsewhere if you do not want to provide your serial - I would suggest contacting whoever you purchased the unit from.
Power and ground for widebands are included wideband breakout connector on the current patch harnesses. Otherwise they can be found on the following pins on harnesses w/out wideband breakout:
C1 - 12v
C10 - Ground
Serial number is found on the ecu or in the software via Tools->Firmware Version. Feel free to seek base map assistance elsewhere if you do not want to provide your serial - I would suggest contacting whoever you purchased the unit from.
12-02-2009, 08:02 PM
#663
since I am only using 1 wideband, does that mean i can double my points on the wideband calibration.
say do like
1 to 3V in .25V steps on o2 1 and then 3-5V in .25 steps on O2 2?
its pretty much a straight line on the AEM calibration, but is there a reason use the same values for both O2 banks as opposed to higher resolution across 2 banks?
say do like
1 to 3V in .25V steps on o2 1 and then 3-5V in .25 steps on O2 2?
its pretty much a straight line on the AEM calibration, but is there a reason use the same values for both O2 banks as opposed to higher resolution across 2 banks?
12-02-2009, 09:23 PM
#664
You have two easy ways to use the software away from the car. 1. When the software installs it includes a Pro 350Z base map, so you have this on your computer already. 2. When connected to the car you can File->Save the map that it loads from the ECU.
Power and ground for widebands are included wideband breakout connector on the current patch harnesses. Otherwise they can be found on the following pins on harnesses w/out wideband breakout:
C1 - 12v
C10 - Ground
Serial number is found on the ecu or in the software via Tools->Firmware Version. Feel free to seek base map assistance elsewhere if you do not want to provide your serial - I would suggest contacting whoever you purchased the unit from.
Power and ground for widebands are included wideband breakout connector on the current patch harnesses. Otherwise they can be found on the following pins on harnesses w/out wideband breakout:
C1 - 12v
C10 - Ground
Serial number is found on the ecu or in the software via Tools->Firmware Version. Feel free to seek base map assistance elsewhere if you do not want to provide your serial - I would suggest contacting whoever you purchased the unit from.
12-03-2009, 05:15 AM
#665
since I am only using 1 wideband, does that mean i can double my points on the wideband calibration.
say do like
1 to 3V in .25V steps on o2 1 and then 3-5V in .25 steps on O2 2?
its pretty much a straight line on the AEM calibration, but is there a reason use the same values for both O2 banks as opposed to higher resolution across 2 banks?
say do like
1 to 3V in .25V steps on o2 1 and then 3-5V in .25 steps on O2 2?
its pretty much a straight line on the AEM calibration, but is there a reason use the same values for both O2 banks as opposed to higher resolution across 2 banks?
12-03-2009, 05:18 AM
#666
No, the Haltech requires power in order to connect to it. Earlier I was explaining that you can navigate the software and change your map offline if you have a saved copy (or use the base map included with the software if you just want to "explore the software")
12-03-2009, 06:08 AM
#667
good deal. i wasnt sure how well it interpolated. I added 8 points since I could and took actual voltage vs gauge display readings to match it up.
also speaking of interpolation, in your 32x32 base map, what happens if you rev higher than you have mapped?
say your 32x32 is set to 7500rpms, but you rev somehow to 7800. does the haltech know what to do, or do you need to build your base map hundreds of rpms higher than your rev limiter?
looks like setting the fueling is like the UTEC where you are inputting ms injector times. Tuning for a supercharger was straightforward becuase you'd always be at the same rpm for the same boost. With turbos you could be at all sorts of rpms will all sorts of boost. I'm sure tuning for that midrange driveability on and off boost is what takes alot of experience.
I also sent you and email last night with my map, setup, and serial #.
Thanks!
also speaking of interpolation, in your 32x32 base map, what happens if you rev higher than you have mapped?
say your 32x32 is set to 7500rpms, but you rev somehow to 7800. does the haltech know what to do, or do you need to build your base map hundreds of rpms higher than your rev limiter?
looks like setting the fueling is like the UTEC where you are inputting ms injector times. Tuning for a supercharger was straightforward becuase you'd always be at the same rpm for the same boost. With turbos you could be at all sorts of rpms will all sorts of boost. I'm sure tuning for that midrange driveability on and off boost is what takes alot of experience.
I also sent you and email last night with my map, setup, and serial #.
Thanks!
Last edited by str8dum1; 12-03-2009 at 06:19 AM.
12-03-2009, 01:02 PM
#668
I am pretty sure that if you go past the row or column limit, the Haltech will use the contents of the cell at the limit. It will not "guess" beyond the data table. I would set up your table so that you never go into uncharted territory. That said, it interpolates perfectly between cells, across rows and columns simultaneously.
Last edited by rcdash; 12-03-2009 at 01:05 PM.
12-04-2009, 05:47 AM
#669
str8dum1, rcdash is correct - it will continue to use the closest values. On a VE tune, these should be close as it will still be considering boost etc.
I generally add one or two rows/columns past the max rpm/boost, and set the tune conservative there to help cover any accidental overshoot that may occur. This is not necessary, but a nice safety measure. For an extreme example, say a stock-engine car somehow shoots to 18psi... it has a greater chance of survival if extra fuel is flooding in and ignition backed way out so the driver immediately knows there is a problem and hopefully did not lose the engine. Yes there are other safety measures such as rev limiter and boost limiter doing the same thing, but why not use every safeguard?
I generally add one or two rows/columns past the max rpm/boost, and set the tune conservative there to help cover any accidental overshoot that may occur. This is not necessary, but a nice safety measure. For an extreme example, say a stock-engine car somehow shoots to 18psi... it has a greater chance of survival if extra fuel is flooding in and ignition backed way out so the driver immediately knows there is a problem and hopefully did not lose the engine. Yes there are other safety measures such as rev limiter and boost limiter doing the same thing, but why not use every safeguard?
12-04-2009, 10:01 AM
#670
no doubt you'd want more saftey, just like you said you really set your overboost protection so you 'know' when something went wrong buy not re-enabling the boost til a much lower level.
granted almost all this will be setup when I get the car pro tuned, but I still want to have the ability to make small adjustments down the road
granted almost all this will be setup when I get the car pro tuned, but I still want to have the ability to make small adjustments down the road
12-06-2009, 04:09 AM
#674
The Z has an oil temp sensor while the G does not. Is it possible to use a standard 5V oil temp sender from an autometer gauge and splice it into the haltech wiring thru like AT1 ot AT2?
I know thats what you are doing for the AIT sensor and the widebands.
I know thats what you are doing for the AIT sensor and the widebands.
Last edited by str8dum1; 12-06-2009 at 04:13 AM.
12-07-2009, 05:25 AM
#675
Not all Z's have oil temp either, but on the ones that do... you could grab the wiring off of the sensor to attach a gauge, but calibration will likely be a problem. I don't know for a fact, but I highly doubt the Nissan sensor is going to use the Autometer calibration - so hooking up an autometer gauge would be inaccurate.
12-07-2009, 06:00 AM
#678
str8dum1 - You are referring to oil pressure on the 3 gauge pod. All Z's have that as far as I know. G35s have an oil pressure switch only.
Z1 - I am uncertain of what year/model combinations have oil temp - I believe revups? The sensor is on the front in the oil pan, and yours will either have a plug or a blue sensor.
The 370z has oil temp on the guage pod in place of oil pressure.
Z1 - I am uncertain of what year/model combinations have oil temp - I believe revups? The sensor is on the front in the oil pan, and yours will either have a plug or a blue sensor.
The 370z has oil temp on the guage pod in place of oil pressure.