I am not talking to you on a professional level, since you started calling names yourself. So don't start twisting things up here. I have a company, but am a person and do not appreciate you calling me names. If you were a customer of mine, why would you do that? I think you are still acting like a dumbass.
Don't talk crap to me, and attempt to hold me to a higher standard because i have a business. You are attacking people, what the hell do think is going to happen? A corporate form email response?
That's great, really great that you knew about VRT before Jesus and everyone else. But you don't know Scott, and you don't know what he went thru when he saw what Mike A. was doing to customers. People don't stop using his mechanic that used to build motors for VRT. RA's mechanic is in good graces with JWT, all is well with the world. You are just trying to needlessly put someone out of business. That is exactly what you are trying to do.
Scott brought in business for VRT. He did not own it on paper. He did sales.
Mike A. controlled every aspect of the business. VRT's employees were telling
us (Kognition) to stay away from Mike A. last October. We listened to the stories, and never got involved with VRT.

 

I would still like to see these other people 'calling out' R.A.

also, philthy it's funny that now you are being honest about your motives when in the other thread when you attacked Scott you acted like 'who me?' nice.

 

I called you a Fan Boy, but did appoogies, Sponsor is DEFINITELY > the Fan Boy

There have been several questions from myself and other members and RA can respond if they wish...

I think most would agree, we should get this thread back on topic...

 

Philthy - to clear things up, there WAS a relationship between RA and VRT. You being 2700 miles away, allow me to give you a summary to close the discussion.

RA consists to Scott B. and Mark B.

RA was initiated near the beginning of this calendar year.

Scott B. and Mark B. used to work at VRT for a long period of time but left due to ethical reasons (hint - read between the lines)

Mark B. was recognized for his consistent work by JWT and thus entrusted with JWT products for a long time while he was at VRT, and as he is today at RA.

Mark B. severed his ties many months ago from VRT, despite reports of him still conducting for for VRT by Mike A.

Does this clear the waters for you? If not, please let me know.

 

Thanks for the history lesson, I do appreciate it.

Maybe you can shed additional light on some other questions that I and other forum members have... let's just start with the basics, I'll limit my questions to 4 for now...

1. Where exactly does RA build all these cars? Where are the shop pics? Do they even have a shop? Given the whole VRT nightmare, I would think that the forum would want to protect it's members for any 'potential' harm by unscrupulous vendors. This would be the case for ALL vendors, not just the ones with a checked past.
2. 750whp claims, the forum is still waiting for RA to post a 750whp DJ chart.
3. 100's of TT installs on 350Zs, G35, FX35s while tuning out everything from Porsches to Ford Mustangs to Scion tCs, and Evos - and all this from one single mechanic in less than a years timeframe..?? - OR does this bring VRT back into the mix?
4. RFS claims on 700+whp cars - any dyno charts or more info to support this...

 

1. RA will have to post their own shop pics - will it be glamourous? No. Does it work and have proven results, yes. Is it permanent, no.

2. Cannot comment.

3. Yes, that is capitalizing on Mark B's hands-on recent experience.

4. What is RFS?

 

Philthy, I feel I need to chime in here as one of the first TT G35 installed by RA as a whole.

I had my car brought in on May 25th of this year, I had it back by the following Thursday, the 31st. They didn't start working on it until the 28th. They did a complete TT install and tune in about 3 days. Nothing is wrong, everything is amazingly perfect at this point.

Please, tell me, where has RA ripped off anyone? Where have they done ANY wrong doing? You think their 750WHP claim of their Z is fake? I have not seen a dyno chart, so I can't stay it is 100%, but I guarantee you that the Z is up there, well beyond 700. The car is a freaking beast, the owner lives no more than 20 minutes from me. Their shop you ask? No, it is not a real shop such as GTM, but it is temporary. Remember, Scott came from VRT and by himself, is starting RA. They are working their way up, and when they are able to get an authentic shop such as the "big names" I have no doubt they will. PLEASE don't make accusations or conclude on facts that you have NONE OF.

RA's #1 mechanic is the one with the experience of 100+ installs of forced induction applications on VQs. Like I said on a previous thread, I know of about 4 Vegas TT's - all installed by Scott and Mark at RA. I know of 2 or 3 other FI applications (Vortech and Stillen) all done by Scott here in Vegas. That is 7, and I don't know 99.9% of his customers. Off the top of my head I can think of probably 10 cars from various websites that Mark has done all the engine work on. Again, PLEASE don't say **** about something you know NOTHING OF. I'll gladly talk to you about anything you may need to ask me about RA, so PM away if you feel like it. Just stop bashing for no reason, because you dislike VRT. RA HAS NO CONNECTIONS WITH VRT! This **** is getting old, and what do you have to gain from talking **** about RA?

As the previous poster said, what is RFS?

 

+1 Mark is a good guy and has helped me out alot so far with my questions.

 

This is true, Phil is not affiliated with any shop in any way.He is a customer of Forged,Straight line, and since he did buy a set of spark plugs from me once, technically a customer of MRC's. He has no vested interest in any of the shops.
This also is 100% true, All the beef me and Phil had from day one, there was always one topic we agreed upon,even verified in PM's and in person conversations, was the fact that VRT was completely full of $hit and scamming the entire community with their MOON DYNOS on stock fuel systems..We both called BS from DAY ONE, but both of us got flamed by the VRT fan boys, and supporters..It makes me sick to think about how legitimate shops struggle to keep afloat and turn out quality work, and how VRT simply put on a magic show of smoke and mirrors with throwing the JWT name around attatched to some FAKE DYNO's, and made tons of ill gotten funds..
And to sit there and think that JWT had NOTHING to do with the smoke and mirror show at all is simply being STUPID..VRT used JWT's Dyno and tuning facilities for their scam since they didnt own a dyno,or a garge for that matter. So in my opinon, JWT was just as to blame for scamming the community with face Dyno's as VRT was. JWT HAD to have some knowledge of what was taking place with the FAKE DYNO's, and I think as a result, JWT should bear some responsability for the whole fiasco they assisted to create..After all, where the hell did VRT come from? And why did JWT chose for them to be one of the first shops in the world to install a JWT TT kit? What was the connection?And why wouldnt JWT associate themselves with a more "LEGITIMATE" and well established facility for their research and development?? So MR. A just walked into JWT and they gave him 2 free turbo kits to test??
As far as I am concearned, anyone even remotely associated with the former VRT, is like a prostitute with Herpes,Aids,and Hepetitus A,B,C..You simply Stay the fukc away from them..
If anyone does not like what i have to say, TOO BAD..Use the ignore feature.

 

+1 i think its been quite clear now to most in the community that

1- we can agree their dynpack can still be good tool for tunning
2- we all agree that dynapack can put out some stupid high whp numbers compared to other dynos
3- after a 1 thread they put out i think RA now knows that as a community we wont take dynapack #s as trustful, but it doesn't mean their car is tuned bad. If i remember they did say, not our fault we have a dynapack.

we just need to keep pointing this out to n00bs

It wasn't after mark and Scott left that then the dyno numbers weren't even of the same cars, like when mrA$$ started using dyno sheets of other cars done in the past and lying to customers by telling them that was their tune. That is the worst scam.



i think he knows that, i hope he knows that... but i agree even if indirectly JWT has some fault.


well many people at some point got well deceived by MrA$$...thats was his "quality"...he was good at lying to people in their face... all the vrt cars still running are the ones scott and mark put out(yes with numbers some), the ones with the most horror stories now are the ones that Mr touched ....the ones he even attempted to tune himself and since he doesn't know **** thats probably why he started to use dyno sheets of others cars to give to customers...and just leaving cars untuned.

since i guess you, I or some others in this thread don't know Jim wolf directly, we wont really know weather his fault was directly or indirectly. But regardless he has some fault.
I get really pissed that he doesn't acknowledge that their dyno #s are exaggerated though.

thats a funny way to say it,....

I do think RA is/will have to work hard to clear their name, i am sure a lot of those things will happen behind the sceneds..but i think one good way to getting it done would be to provide dynojet numbers. regardless if they don't use the "right way" with their fuel system... of they tuned it in a dynapack... they should start working to produce dyno jet numbers....

 

And the great thing about our economy is that you are entitled to your own opinion and have the ability to make your own choice in who you do business with.

There are several vendors on here that I have had less than spectacular experiences with (some even disasterous); some of which I warned other potential customers about back in 2002. I was told that I was full of $hit, so over the next few years I laughed as the truth came out and others got burned. At least my opinions were based on actual experience, not speculation. Your demeanor in pointing fingers openly (in this case, and also in past cases) doesn't bode well with me recognizing you as a respectable vendor.

To give a little perspective on the situation, I moved out here not knowing a soul, and met up with Scott and Mark and found them to have integrity in their actions. Mark did incredible work, was transparent, and flexible in working with customers. And it takes a lot to earn trust with me. I have a knack to read people very well, and if I still had a Z, Mark would be the exclusive mechanic for it. Do I endorse everything that RA does? No. But at least I'm mature enough to recognize the situation and give them a chance to clear their past with ethical business practices.

And for the record regarding my opinion of dynos, I haven't ever put much stock in them as they are too easy to manipulate anyways. But that's a topic for another day...

 

yeah, JWT has the only dyno that reads high lol.... glass houses and all of that.

 

So Mr. Big *****, what are you insinuating by your above comment? Glass houses Looks like you should be making some more phone calls...

 

lol!! I don't make phone calls

I don't insinuate anything. I am merely bringing up the fact that many people have given MRC ,and basically every other shop that ever existed, **** one time or another over dyno numbers...

But I also know enough about JWT and clark and all those guys that I don't think they are scammers or responsible in any way for what MrA/VRT did.

I don't go one way or the other.

 

Your welcome to put your car on my dyno and see your 235whp number..Then take it to the magical VRT dyno and make 579whp.. Thats of course if your willing to come out from behind your keyboard..

 

This is true, and I am taking full advantage of that right with my typing as we speak..
Do you have some factual basis on these claims or are you just making a blanket staement?It would be nice to pinpoint it down to one particular vendor if yould like to expound..


Leave my demeanor out of this,stick to the facts, and please link me to all the MRC SCAMMED me threads please..Do not act with contempt towards me sir. I am one of the most LEGIT and honorable persons you will meet on these boards..Please keep your Moderator postition to an UNBIASED one in this case and let the facts prevail..Oh, and by the way, how about this for recognizing me as a respectable SHOP not DOTCOM vendor:

https://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds/305999-mrc-motorsports-presents-the-masterpiece.html
https://my350z.com/forum/tuning/306163-utec-re-tuned-by-mrc.html


Stock 350z non rev up, and added Turbo XS exhaust.


Same car but added the TX test pipes.


5AT with heads and cams..Before tune and after tune.


Dyno of my OLD APS set up from last year..

My old time slip on low boost and Drag radials.. Im car #6900


Arthurs N/A tune


7500rpm BC cams 12psi


7500rpm BC 14 psi


Dave Zoni's Dyno 555


N/A G35 4 door


Stroker@ 10psi


Vino, APs extreme, stock motor 7psi


Big Rome, low boost..


so you openly admit they are the first shop you have done business with, therefore you have no one to compare them to in theory..
Im not saying he does not do great work..Im saying he should distance himself from the VRT name as much as possible.

Your right..Lets see what the future holds.
How about the topic of ACTUALLY OWNING A DYNO.....
Do you have some pictures of their facility? So that Phil may shut up once and for all.Im tired of reading his posts on the topic...

 

I think I explained myself pretty well. And Julian, you have met me more than once.

I hope to make 240whp at least NA but 235 would be good as well...

do you have to attack everyone? you can't simply defend yourself with acting like a complete idiot. I AM NOT SAYING YOU FUDGE YOUR NUMBERS, as I clearly stated, but if I really cared I am sure I can search (unless the thread was deleted like so many vendor threads are) and find enough examples of people giving you grief in the past to support my statement.

give it a rest.

 

All my experiences have been objective - you want a list of people I've dealt with? I really don't see how those experiences are relevant to the discussion at hand. Lest you not forget that I have been in this community much longer than you have, and have dealt with a good portion of the vendors and products associated with this board (some for better, others for worse).

In no way should you insinuate that I support VRT. I met Mike A. at Buttonwillow in April, and I could see right through all the charm. I genuinely feel sorry for all those that have been scammed by him. Mark B. has been trying to distance himself from VRT for many many months (if not nearly a year). So has Scott. It was Mike A. who was incorrectly informing his customers that Mark was still doing work for him. So what's your beef? You all continuing to drag Scott and Mark's name into this discussion is only creating an unnecessary mess.

So no, I don't see "MRC Scammed Me" threads, and I hope I never do. What I do see is an inflammatory Julian who gets his panties in a wad over and over again, a Julian who prides himself in mud-slinging other vendors. A respectable vendor has tenacity and shows maturity in a public forum.

As for dynos, only model I put any grain of salt into is a Dyno Dynamics dyno. I have never been a dyno sheet queen - instead I take what I have and drive the **** out of it. Then again, I didn't have an FI Z...

 

Your comment was directly geared towards me.You know it, and i know it.Hence the Glass house comment, otherwise you would have specified.
As far as i recall you and I met once and had luch across from one another. Your appearance on the forums is far more aggressive than in person. You seemed like a nice guy in person. On the boards you appear at times to take shots at me in my opinion.Perhaps I am imagining it.

 

#1) My beef is with VRT not you, not RA.
#2) you attempted to belittle me and my shop in a roundabout way, not happening pal.I simply replied with FACTS.
#3) I dont know Scot, or Mike or whoever is RA..However if they were associated with VRT in any way, then I wish them luck as they have an uphill battle to prove themselves.
#4) I may be the only one, but your postings seemed a bit on the Defensive side in favor of VRT and their crew.Prehaps I am reading too much into it myself.

Good day.