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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by App6MT
Looks like you might have their beta for self tuning? NOt sure though.
Originally Posted by thinking
So... this is what's below coolant test. Does everybody get this?
Yes, that is a beta version of real time tuning. A few people that had ECUs crash w/ the V1.0 flasher ended up w/ a beta version to do the recovery. It is NOT fully functional, so it would be best not to mess w/ it.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RedondoG
Church sells the Osiris system and does custom tunes on the dyno.
Call Shawn Church for the pricing structure.
I have an appointment Thursday at 10:00 for a custom tune.
for those who went to shawn church's. do you get the osiris cable and software from him to use yourself after the tune? or does he just have one cable he does alll the tunes with?
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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No its just $600 for the tune, and then after that if you want to go back he charges 170 per hour to retune. It usually will only take 30-45mins for a retune. So about 125 bucks. My car is tuned by him using Osiris.

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for those who went to shawn church's. do you get the osiris cable and software from him to use yourself after the tune? or does he just have one cable he does alll the tunes with?
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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I was able to complete the flash & get everything running this weekend. There is a noticeable improvement in performance when running the tuned map (the car wants to get sideways when going WOT in the top of 1st & 2nd gear). I cant wait to get this thing on a dyno. I'd like to thank Jared for answering all of my questions and for his patience.

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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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I have the base ROM installed, which according to Jared, was pulled from a car dynoed with almost the exact same mods as mine. It appears to be running decently, but if I want to tweak my maps any further and I use Cipher to record some runs, which parameters do I need to monitor?
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by undrgnd
I have the base ROM installed, which according to Jared, was pulled from a car dynoed with almost the exact same mods as mine. It appears to be running decently, but if I want to tweak my maps any further and I use Cipher to record some runs, which parameters do I need to monitor?

Q. What parameters should be logged for AFR eTuning?
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AFR, B1 and B2 (Make sure your ECU is set up in the wide band conversion. See Cipher user guide)
Accelerator position (either one)
Base fuel schedule
Calculated load
Coolant temp
Engine speed (RPM)
Ignition timing advance
Throttle position (either one)


It was posted earlier in the thread.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Frostydc4
Q. What parameters should be logged for AFR eTuning?
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AFR, B1 and B2 (Make sure your ECU is set up in the wide band conversion. See Cipher user guide)
Accelerator position (either one)
Base fuel schedule
Calculated load
Coolant temp
Engine speed (RPM)
Ignition timing advance
Throttle position (either one)


It was posted earlier in the thread.
It's also in the user guide
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cdoxp800
It's also in the user guide
No, but it should be. That guide needs to be updated soon.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PunKidd
No, but it should be. That guide needs to be updated soon.
Jared,

Some place in this Thread someone says it's in the guide. And no it's not above this post. HaHa

Anyway How goes it out there? Are we getting close on the user tunable Ver?

Jared I may give you a call tomorrow if I don't forget.

Chad
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PunKidd
No, but it should be. That guide needs to be updated soon.
It would be nice if Cipher had a button that would select all the parameters UpRev wants recorded for an Osiris log. It would be easier for you and easier for us.

The button would clear all the current settings and check only the parameters required for an Osiris log.

That wouldn't be too hard to add to the Cipher code.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by __jb
It would be nice if Cipher had a button that would select all the parameters UpRev wants recorded for an Osiris log. It would be easier for you and easier for us.

The button would clear all the current settings and check only the parameters required for an Osiris log.

That wouldn't be too hard to add to the Cipher code.
Great Idea.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 06:04 AM
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Wow, just finished reading this entire thread and I must say, this looks like an incredible product as is right now and looks like its only going to get better. Would love to see some more dyno proven results, but after reading all 29pages I have basically writen off the cobb handheld. Wonderful thread and bravo to all of you that have been the pioneers and guinea pigs for the rest of us. Trigger finger is getting itchy, but going to wait just a bit longer to add a few mor bolt-ons and since Im an 04 also need to look into a wideband. Any way to record the a/f reading from the wideband in accordance with the logs from cipher so that the a/f can be matched with the rpm?
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ak350
Wow, just finished reading this entire thread and I must say, this looks like an incredible product as is right now and looks like its only going to get better. Would love to see some more dyno proven results, but after reading all 29pages I have basically written off the cobb hand held. Wonderful thread and bravo to all of you that have been the pioneers and guinea pigs for the rest of us. Trigger finger is getting itchy, but going to wait just a bit longer to add a few more bolt-ons and since I'm an 04 also need to look into a wideband. Any way to record the a/f reading from the wideband in accordance with the logs from cipher so that the a/f can be matched with the rpm?
UrRev has some Dynos on there site located here

http://www.uprev.com/products/osiris_NI.html

Gives you some kind of idea.

C

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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Awesome, but what about for all of us 03-04's that dont have the ability to log a/f ration with cipher, how would we be able to data log a/f and have it match rpm? is there a way to record both sequentially?
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ak350
Awesome, but what about for all of us 03-04's that dont have the ability to log a/f ration with cipher, how would we be able to data log a/f and have it match rpm? is there a way to record both sequentially?
Thats a question for the UpRev guys. I am sure they will be checking the post.

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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Awesome, but what about for all of us 03-04's that dont have the ability to log a/f ration with cipher, how would we be able to data log a/f and have it match rpm? is there a way to record both sequentially?
Been covered. Read the thread.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Frostydc4
Q. What parameters should be logged for AFR eTuning?
A.
AFR, B1 and B2 (Make sure your ECU is set up in the wide band conversion. See Cipher user guide)
Accelerator position (either one)
Base fuel schedule
Calculated load
Coolant temp
Engine speed (RPM)
Ignition timing advance
Throttle position (either one)


It was posted earlier in the thread.
Thanks. As Jared stated, it was not in any document provided by Uprev, or on their website. Both the FAQ and the User Manual are inadequate. If it wasn't for this thread, I would not have even considered getting Osiris, and almost everytning I know about it, I picked up from this thread.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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UpRev Up Dates link

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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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Thanks. This version of the Cipher manual has been on their website since at least 10/18 when I downloaded it. I was referring to an updated version from what is available now.

Correction: V1.03 has been around for over a year.

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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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You have to use a WB that can log RPM so that I can match the WB log up w/ the Cipher log. We do plan to update Cipher so that it can log the innovate WB directly but end user tunability and HR support are higher priorities right now.
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