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Old 08-21-2008, 01:57 PM
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530. Could have paid 250 but I wanted a shop with experience with our car install it right. Just my preference.
Old 08-21-2008, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by A.H
I am getting the UR crank pulley installed on saturday and redynoing on tuesday. Can't get a lightweight flywheel cause i have an auto.

And no, this is on the stock ECU with no reflash or tune. After i dyno the UR pulley im going to reflash and tune the same day. I have more mods than last time i got the reflash and i got 17whp from the last time. More mods so more corrections will be needed so im hoping for like 20WHP from that. We'll soon see...
if you reflashed 1 time and your afr didnt change from pre to post header, I'd lowe your expectations alot....like alot
Old 08-21-2008, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
if you reflashed 1 time and your afr didnt change from pre to post header, I'd lowe your expectations alot....like alot
He reflashed back to the stock maps, though.
Old 08-21-2008, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by A.H
even GTM, has begged me not to do them.
so GTM sells a product that they don't want people to buy?

Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
if you reflashed 1 time and your afr didnt change from pre to post header, I'd lowe your expectations alot....like alot
as long as it makes power with a tune, i think its worth it in an na build up

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Old 08-21-2008, 09:31 PM
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Cams are bad to get... I also advise against them from personal experience. There's many problems that may come down the line from them... in some cases, detonation, drivetrain wear, valve and piston clearance issues, etc.

AH can still get other bolt on goodies, Transmission Cooler, Radiator, Oil Cooler, and UR accessory pulleys when they come out... Nitrous ;x
Old 08-22-2008, 08:37 AM
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I think your power curve is very impressive...props for being very close to 300whp NA with the mods you have.
Old 08-22-2008, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by vnarang
I think GTM has some developed.

http://www.gtmotorsports.com/home.php?cat=387
What are the gains?
Old 08-22-2008, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by A.H
Believe me i can't wait for that glorious 300+WHP. I really hope these pulley's give me some power so i can get to 300WHP before i do the reflash and tune. ANd to be honest i reallly see no point in going FI as so many people end up selling their cars about 2 months after they blew all that money. Some people maybe need more power but i am more than content with the power im making
EXACTLY!......With 300+RWHP and 4.08 Gears your car will hit at leat 12.7 I believe depending on your 60"....the HR have sooo much potential to be fast all motor......but imagine if you did go fi
Old 08-22-2008, 10:47 AM
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Z1,

i think i remember reading in some other thread that you were working on some true long to headers for the vq, is that still going on or am i just making crap up?
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yes, for a DE, but we have no plans for the HR
Old 08-22-2008, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
yes, for a DE, but we have no plans for the HR
well if we couple the DE headers with some DE testpipes or HFC's, it should bolt right up, correct?
Old 08-22-2008, 11:05 AM
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come on Z1 you know with the power the HR is putting down NA ppl are going to start jumping for it even more!!!
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[QUOTE=warmmilk]well if we couple the DE headers with some DE testpipes or HFC's, it should bolt right up, correct?[come on Z1 you know with the power the HR is putting down NA ppl are going to start jumping for it even more!!!/QUOTE]

long tube headers replace test pipes and cats. Sorry, I don't know if they bolt up to the HR or not. My understanding is they would not bolt up.

Originally Posted by asmvp84
come on Z1 you know with the power the HR is putting down NA ppl are going to start jumping for it even more!!!
Far too premature to even consider at this point, and without having a car, it makes it even more difficult (we only have DEs here). Secondly, these are not going to be $500 headers, that much I know. Cost will be considerably more than even the Crawford ones are, due to material costs (321 stainless, real merge collectors) R&D (the prototype units are costing me quite a bit), and the normal costs of doing small production runs (should they be a success on my own car). In due time, we'll know the answers, but for the time being, we're working on a few other things first. Headers will be the last project we tackle this year
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an example of how not being able to edit a post stinks! ^
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance

long tube headers replace test pipes and cats. Sorry, I don't know if they bolt up to the HR or not. My understanding is they would not bolt up.
i thought the only difference was the header to cat flange, so since it replaces the headers and cats, shouldn't it theoretically bolt up?
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
so GTM sells a product that they don't want people to buy?
Basically your right. Call them up and ask for cams and they will persuade you not to do it. Will tell you every person that does cams regrets it and its horribly hp/money. They also tell you a lot can go wrong in the future and with installtion.
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Originally Posted by jmaestre23
EXACTLY!......With 300+RWHP and 4.08 Gears your car will hit at leat 12.7 I believe depending on your 60"....the HR have sooo much potential to be fast all motor......but imagine if you did go fi
I never did undersstand the gear thing. Whats the stock gearing and what woudl the change to 4.08 do? Is 4.08 the perfect gearing for my setup?

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Old 08-22-2008, 05:58 PM
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Not sure if anything has changed, but I believe the auto has a 3.2 final drive.

I wouldn't say 4.10s are perfect, but you will definitely have increased acceleration. A final drive/gears does not increase HP or torque, but allows you to apply more torque to the rear wheels so you get the sensation of more torque.

The downside is decreased mileage due to higher revs and a lower theoretical top speed. It seems that MPG doesn't suffer much and top speed shouldn't be an issue as you should still be able to hit 160mph.

For myself, I'd do 3.91 as it offers a nice balance. Either way, this should be the best bang for your buck out of all your mods. Man if we ever meet up, I hope it's soon because you're racking up way too many mods.


Check this sticky for more info https://my350z.com/forum/engine-driv...installed.html
Old 08-22-2008, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
i thought the only difference was the header to cat flange, so since it replaces the headers and cats, shouldn't it theoretically bolt up?
Yes they should bolt up. If DE headers can fit on the HR engine (I am talking about the bolts that go into the engine itself), then regardless of the header to cat flange since they will be long tube, from the cats backward they should fit.

Never thought about it like that! Cool discovery.
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Originally Posted by gsingh350Z
Yes they should bolt up. If DE headers can fit on the HR engine (I am talking about the bolts that go into the engine itself), then regardless of the header to cat flange since they will be long tube, from the cats backward they should fit.

Never thought about it like that! Cool discovery.
But how do you know you won't encuonter my same probelm and have these headers that fit the DE hit the knuckle of the stering rack on the HR?


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