The wait is over.....Stillen Header Dyno results!!!
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haha yeaa seriously if that happened to me i woulda blown up stillen jk lol....+1 on their customer service thoooo.....best bet is to wait also maybe other companies are ddeveloping headers for the HR maybe even longtubes =](dream on)
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Originally Posted by Peak350
But if you want plenty of reliability, you have options of improving many other things first.
I had cams in my last car, and it was great, but it had cold weather idle issues (at startup) among other things that made it annoying, our engines are much more sensitive than what my car had, I wouldn't dump 3k at it for the minimal gains. Nitrous would be more effective, less expensive, and about as dangerous.
I had cams in my last car, and it was great, but it had cold weather idle issues (at startup) among other things that made it annoying, our engines are much more sensitive than what my car had, I wouldn't dump 3k at it for the minimal gains. Nitrous would be more effective, less expensive, and about as dangerous.
Nitrous is certainly another path to go for those who want it, or even nitrous + cams, which would yield even greater results. Like anything else though, correct selection of components, install and tuning are the key to a successful nitrous install as well. At the end of the day though, it's not a zero sum game - for some, nitrous is just not a desirable way to make power (I know it's not for me, and while I'm sure I'd net huge gains, it's just not anything I want)
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
Improper install, improper tuning, improper setup is what leads to situations such as this. No idea what kind of car you had, or what it was tuned on, etc. A properly selected/installed/tuned set of cams will not have ANY stalling, or any other driveability issues.
the 350z community goes for nitro or TT setups, or just basic bolt ons.
how many people have a NA full tune or built? you and kwame.. AFAIK. and how much time you spent in research, trial and error.. and get information from racing teams in japan with that kind of experience? (and racing is again a different game, because of regulation, what you can and can't do..)
that is a different story in the corvette community... cams are one of the popular mods.... you'll find a reliable shop able to install and tune it w/o any problems.
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Originally Posted by A.H
Yea bro I had the same problem. Stillen rushed the headers and didn't test fit it on the car so the first set of headers they sold had the header hit the bottom of the stering column. Here is a thread I posted. https://my350z.com/forum/vq35hr/3794...er-defect.html It has a picture of the problem. As you turn left that bolt on the bottom hits the header making it hard to turn right and a hard left. They redesigned it so just call them up tell them about this, act pissed but polite and they will send out a new header and if your very lucky like me they will also pay for the install of the new header as they totally fcuked you and it not your fault. Just don't take their bs and make sure to talk to Kyle Millen. He's the only one that can get anything done. Hope this helps and you resolve your issue.
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Anyone who thinks headers are not a worthwhile upgrade, as I have said before, is ****ing retarded.
That's a great increase in power/torque across the board. There's gains EVERYWHERE, some places seeing as much as +15whp/wtq. ****ing awesome man.
That's a great increase in power/torque across the board. There's gains EVERYWHERE, some places seeing as much as +15whp/wtq. ****ing awesome man.
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
Improper install, improper tuning, improper setup is what leads to situations such as this. No idea what kind of car you had, or what it was tuned on, etc. A properly selected/installed/tuned set of cams will not have ANY stalling, or any other driveability issues. Our engines are not "more sensitive" (I don't even know what that is even supposed to mean) than any other engine out there. It's an engine...if you want to make significant power on it, especially NA, cams become part of the equation by default. Whether they are worth it as a standalone mod is of course debatable, and that is up to the end user to decide for themselves. Cams are an integral part of the recipe.
Nitrous is certainly another path to go for those who want it, or even nitrous + cams, which would yield even greater results. Like anything else though, correct selection of components, install and tuning are the key to a successful nitrous install as well. At the end of the day though, it's not a zero sum game - for some, nitrous is just not a desirable way to make power (I know it's not for me, and while I'm sure I'd net huge gains, it's just not anything I want)
Nitrous is certainly another path to go for those who want it, or even nitrous + cams, which would yield even greater results. Like anything else though, correct selection of components, install and tuning are the key to a successful nitrous install as well. At the end of the day though, it's not a zero sum game - for some, nitrous is just not a desirable way to make power (I know it's not for me, and while I'm sure I'd net huge gains, it's just not anything I want)
I understand the importance of cams pretty well, the valve train, intake manifold, exhaust header, and combustion chamber shape are your 4 key players in making power NA. Most shops I wouldn't trust with installing the cams and getting a tune set up...
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Wow. You can REALLY feel the power. Like the other person said before, the peak numbers aren't much, but holy s***. You can really feel the difference through out the whole powerband. I never would have thought these headers would create this much difference in power. I strongly recommend getting these headers as a bolt on upgrade, they are SICK. *Except for the defect, that blows.*
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Originally Posted by JZK
Wow. You can REALLY feel the power. Like the other person said before, the peak numbers aren't much, but holy s***. You can really feel the difference through out the whole powerband. I never would have thought these headers would create this much difference in power. I strongly recommend getting these headers as a bolt on upgrade, they are SICK. *Except for the defect, that blows.*
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Originally Posted by Peak350
I had an E36 328, put in E36 M3 cams (the exhaust had a little too much duration hence the cold start issues). The car had lower compression, a less aggressive tune, and any number of other things that made cams less volatile. The variable valve timing system on the HR is a much bigger pain to mess with than the old single vanos my BMW had.
I understand the importance of cams pretty well, the valve train, intake manifold, exhaust header, and combustion chamber shape are your 4 key players in making power NA. Most shops I wouldn't trust with installing the cams and getting a tune set up...
I understand the importance of cams pretty well, the valve train, intake manifold, exhaust header, and combustion chamber shape are your 4 key players in making power NA. Most shops I wouldn't trust with installing the cams and getting a tune set up...
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
^i was under the impression that you guys don't build customer cars anymore, is that right?
and damn my spelling errors!!! We NEED the edit buttons back!
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Originally Posted by Nexx
i know that DE headers will mate up with the HR with the only catch being you have to use DE style cats or test pipes. Might be able save quite a bit going that route instead of shelling out for overpriced HR headers and test pipes/hfcs
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This might sound weird but, I wanna see if your headers do it too. Does it sound as if you can hear the air flow through the headers from inside of your car, almost like a slight exhaust leak? I know it sounds weird but I swear I hear it. Also when i floor it, I feel as if I can hear the air flow through every single header tube at the higher rpm's. Like the pitch goes up and down when im accelerating, its weird.
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Originally Posted by JZK
This might sound weird but, I wanna see if your headers do it too. Does it sound as if you can hear the air flow through the headers from inside of your car, almost like a slight exhaust leak? I know it sounds weird but I swear I hear it. Also when i floor it, I feel as if I can hear the air flow through every single header tube at the higher rpm's. Like the pitch goes up and down when im accelerating, its weird.