No offence man but this is a little ridiculous post... a shop doesn't post a dyno graph and u freak out... grow up. Stop tolling. Give congrats where is due and move on..... i don't see any other shops doing this:

 

Sounds like the torque bump got shifted to the left. I know it's not cost effective, but it'd be interesting to shorten the runners and shift it the same amount to the right and see if theres any power left in the OEM cams.

 

Wow, Really? You come in here insinuating all this is "bullpoop"? I don't think you have looked at all the posts leading up to now. You would see that we have posted pictures every step of the way INCLUDING pictures of it installed on the car it was being designed for (GamerModz Time Attack car).

What you did here is spew poop from your mouth with no knowledge of any sort. Sure, deadlines have been missed however, do you know anything about R&D or producing a product? If you did you would have seen a missed deadline and said to yourself "Hey, it's development of a new product, **** happens". Instead you feel the need to write this elaborate post of cr@p containing meaningless information about a company you know nothing about.

The funniest quote from you (KingBaby) was "how can we take any of this seriously when Friday something is promised then nothing". Let me explain why this quote made me laugh and also made me angry.

There are two techniques a company can use when producing a product.

The first technique is to develop a product as fast as you can and get it on the market well before anyone else. Even if this means releasing before it is functioning 100% or before making it the best possible product you can. The reason companies do it this way is to spread the word and be the "first" with the product. This will get the name recognition of your product out there quickly. This is also a method to start receiving a ROI (Return on investment) so that you can use that money for continued development to bring the product to where it should have been before release. A common sign of this approach is that the company will send "pre-released" versions of the product to magazine company's, blogs, etc saying "This is just a prototype so all the bugs aren't worked out". This way they don't get hammered in a article about it. Then after it's released you see bad reviews and new revisions of the product released of "updates". You see this a lot with electronics and software.

The second technique is to develop a product as best as you can before you release it to the public. The upside is that it is exactly what the customer is expecting with little to no issues. Customers are happy but you invested more money before any ROI. When companies use this approach you will see them giving retailers free product to in turn get the public to start purchasing it.

Even I am guilty of the first method but to a much lesser extent than others. If I was a consumer waiting for this product, I would be happy to see the company running in to issues and some deadlines missed. It shows they are making absolutely sure that if/when it is released to the public, it will be the best product possible.

No one expects the average consumer to know or understand these things. I do think that when you start making accusations about someone else's product or company, you should make sure you have enough knowledge to do so.

 

The reply I expected....look at the time you put into replying to me....
no offense man, and again i wasn't bashing you guys...just expressing how many feel seeing this thread bump constantly


hey I seen threads like this before, and i know you have too...not a troll here

hey once again nothing personal...well with all this big R&D shouldn't you guys have a secretary...

I know how shiet goes so I said what I said knowing that...


Hey, he set the date not me...

So for all the butthurt...I'm sorry wholeheartly sorry for jumping the gun. just a restless HR owner...

sue me

 

Who are you to tell them to hire someone else just so you can see more info? Wtf really? Really?

 

I'm a big fat no one in cyberspace E-thugging who is anyone to tell somebody to do anything...

I just care...

anywho you stated 20lbs of torque was gained, is this the NA version? Can you clarify which is the mold you guys are testing.

Thanks in all seriousness that torque will help out a lot due to other bolt-ons not gain anything in that department...

Hope everyone in this thread is enjoying this weekend....

 

This was the FI version but we were hoping it had Good gains on NA. He engineer quickly realized during the tune that the runners may need to be shortened for NA applications.

While the next revision will be geared completely to NA, we are confident that typical FI applications will see a very nice gain as well. Remember, the first revision was specifically designed for a race car that will be putting down 1,100+ RWHP on a 4.2L HR.

 

WOW thats amzign. ok idk about the 1100whp lol ill be good with 5-600 loll. but im LOVING the idea of a 4.2L V6... what kind of revs would that have???? haha

ok sooo question... how long do u generally think it would take to shorten the runners and have another go on the dyno for the NA guys???

 

We won't run the car at that power on the track. It would be too much. It will rev about 9k RPM's +/- a little. Really depends on where the power drops off at but the internals will be able to hangle 9k all day.

The engineer is estimating 2 weeks. All of the hard work is done so it's a reasonable estimate.

In the mean time of getting a TT HR up to S&R to test this one on, it is still on our car. The car should be going under the knife in a week or so for the new motor to be dropped in and other upgrades to be finished. If we don't get another TT'd HR to test this one on, it won't be tested until our car is finished. That in itself is a few weeks or better.

 

^^^ Thanks for the update.

Hope you guys have a Happy & Safe Memorial Day weekend.

 

Ty for everything thus far - timeline on NA testing? Me thinks do want.

 

I have a built 3.8l tt hr that is sitting at Gtm ready and waiting to test this manifold.

 

Ah, yeah Bobby has been talking with Sam over there. I know Sam wants to try it out and it's in discussion. We will see what they come up with.

 

im interested in the numbers you guys expect, just for comparison to Gamermodz 4.2L


EDIT: nevermind, its good to see some people spending their time actually building and engineering parts for our cars rather than all night online. Good job Gamermodz and S&R

 

I'm not looking for crazy numbers like Gamermodz, I am hoping for 700whp.It is a built 3.8l with GTM tt kit upgraded to gt30s and has the GTM stage 5 fuel system with twin pumps and more. I believe Gamermodz build will set the bar for all HR owners and hold the record for sometime.

 

crap all this talk about TT is making me want one

what do gtm and greddy go for??

 

You get to daily drive yours though you lucky bastard. I "could" daily drive ours but it will be too loud and just too much. Ours is a purpose built race car which means I now need to find another fun car to drive on the street :-)

I will probably drive it off the track pretty often. How do you have something that powerful and only drive it once a month or so?

Are you just waiting to drop it in your car?

 

Just visit their websites. Keep in mind when you go TT you at minimum need a TT kit, injectors, fuel pump, clutch, and some form of engine management.

It can get pricey but your car will be completely transformed and you will feel like it was worth every penny.

 

its such a tease u know hahaha

 

Uhhhh... The driver side "hump" is closer to the front of the car then the passenger side hump.
My OCD is not feeling that.