Deteria

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Thinking about upgrading my Clutch / Flywheel and definitely going to upgrade the CMC. Just wondering if anyone tried the Tilton CMC.

John_B

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From what I've read around, you want to go with Tilton CMC. Wilwood rod is longer than stock/Tilton and would creak on the long run.

travlee

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i had the wilwood, no complaints with it. but, at the time Zspeed didnt offer the Tilton

ZSpeedPerformance

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Not true, The only reason someone said that is they had a RJM pedal adjusted WAY further than it should have been which bottomed out the rod to the pedal arm, The rod is threaded in a longer area than the stock so there is much more adjustment available. Customer should have shortened rod if using it way outside of its or factory specs with his custom set-up.

OP, The Tilton is a higher quality unit than the wilwood albeit more expensive. The wilwoods have been great overall as well. Either kit is cheap to rebuild.

Wilwood is slightly easier to bleed than the tilton due to internal design differences.

John_B

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I stand corrected.

MicVelo

Just curious.... what advantage is there to a Tilton or Wilwood aftermarket unit over factory/OEM?

Wondering, because my guy - whom I trust implicitly - recommends, in this order:

OEM
Tilton
Wilwood - "if you must" - never got the full story about why he hates 'em so much but like I said, I trust him, he of many many many hot builds.

And of course, on an HR, any/all of these with the ZSP HD CSC when doing an R&R.

Deteria

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Well just placed an order for the Z Speed Stage 2 Daily kit with Tilton. Figured if I was changing out the CSC, might as well upgrade the CMC too to a better product. It's one of the primary failure points for the 07+.

travlee

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Its best to do them together anyway. Jake doing the work? If so, hit me up.... i will come drink beer and socialize

Deteria

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Yup! Just gotta figure out when it'll arrive. Did you order your kit from Z Speed? I didn't really see on the site how long the shipping was expected to take.

travlee

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Yeah i did... i had mine overnighted because my slave failed and it needed to go to the shop, at the time jake woukdnt touch HR's

Deteria

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Installing this Sunday @AcidJake75

travlee

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Will swing by and drink beer, maybe turn a wrench or two

Deteria

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Hey Travis, did you ever get this Daily Stage 2 clutch setup when you still had your Z?

travlee

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i never changed the clutch

Deteria

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Just got the Southbend Stage 2 Daily kit with Tilton CMC and ZSpeed CSC installed!

Thanks to @AcidJake75!

The Tilton CMC went in fairly easily. No moving the ABS modules out of the way. Initially we ran into issues w/ bleeding, but I recalled reading someone having similar issues and that was due to the way the CMC was adjusted. so we easily got down to the bottom of it and got the car up and running.

Clutch feels much more solid than before. Maybe just 50% harder pedal push, but engagement window seems a little bit wider but easier to manage. Went with 19lb flywheel and the RPM drops from upshifts quickly fall in range for the next gear, making upshifts smoother for me.

travlee

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i had something come up yesterday, sorry i didnt make it over

ZSpeedPerformance

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Thanks for the update! Clutch will lighten up little more as you go through the break in period and engagement window will also shorten up a little once it gets broken in all the way.

Adjustment is definitely key to get them to bleed easliy, I normally start with adjusting the new master to the same length as the one you took out, From there you can get it bled and do minor adjustments to get the engagement point where you want it.