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Old 07-24-2007, 12:18 AM
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jinsei, long time! what offsets are you running?

be sure to post pictures of your wheel fitment!
Old 07-24-2007, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by hayai240sx
This is 235/40/18 on a 18x10
Personally I think it looks sick. I'm not planning on tracking or street racing.

Anybody have pics of 215/40 on a 8.5-9?

Thanks

And no highway driving either ?
Old 07-24-2007, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by deviljon
jinsei, long time! what offsets are you running?

be sure to post pictures of your wheel fitment!
I'm a lagger, man! hahaha I'll post pics in the local Norcal thread forums when I get 'em on and PM yah haha; pics in the general pics forums are not quite as accepted by these members so i'll save everyone the agony of seeing the stretch
Old 07-24-2007, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Kolia
And no highway driving either ?
end yourself.

PS: and just a note to everyone. never get 18x8.5 or below sized rim please. that is the dumbest eff*n sizes you could ever get for a Z.

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Old 07-24-2007, 08:24 AM
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I have a buddy who ran 245/35s on a 19x10.5 on his is300 and it was a good but not excessive stretch. I may have pics somewhere...

Some people are not into aggressive fitments and stretched tires - just ignore them. I have never personally seen an instance when it was unsafe or "the tire came off the bead" such as so many people are quick to point out. I think it looks great as well. But then again there are some people who run 20"s on there car with no drop and a huge *** ugly ****in body kit. There will be haters no matter what you do, so do what you want!
Old 07-24-2007, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jinsei888
I'm a lagger, man! hahaha I'll post pics in the local Norcal thread forums when I get 'em on and PM yah haha; pics in the general pics forums are not quite as accepted by these members so i'll save everyone the agony of seeing the stretch
dude, pm me the link as well! 19x10.5 must be crazy on the front, 19x11 goodness for the rear
Old 07-24-2007, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by OffsetZ33
I have a buddy who ran 245/35s on a 19x10.5 on his is300 and it was a good but not excessive stretch. I may have pics somewhere...

Some people are not into aggressive fitments and stretched tires - just ignore them. I have never personally seen an instance when it was unsafe or "the tire came off the bead" such as so many people are quick to point out. I think it looks great as well. But then again there are some people who run 20"s on there car with no drop and a huge *** ugly ****in body kit. There will be haters no matter what you do, so do what you want!

yah i know, my tire stretch is REALLY conservative in the world of tire stretching; it makes me laugh sometimes when people freak out about stretching and I know i've seen folks with setups many many times more aggressive than mine will be
Old 07-24-2007, 08:37 AM
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stretch is sick, post pics when you are done.
Old 07-24-2007, 08:42 AM
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Jinsei888 and DevilJon, I want to see pics of that stretch too. Let me know.
Old 07-24-2007, 08:55 AM
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Here some bad pics of the stretch of a 245/35 on a 19x10.5 - I thought I had good pics of his setup but I can find them...



Old 07-24-2007, 09:28 AM
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dont give me all that crap about tires unbeading. people drive hard with stretch tires and crazy wheel fitment.
Old 07-24-2007, 09:31 AM
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+1

if it can withstand the abuse of drifting and going sideways, it seems perfectly safe to me.
Old 07-24-2007, 09:32 AM
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GJ tougeracing

any motorsport enthusiast knows that tracking and heavy endurance load applies to stretched tires the same way as overly wide-reverse stretch tires. Ignorance applies to folks that think performance driving or stretching is dangerous; "knowledge is power"
Old 07-24-2007, 12:30 PM
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You guys are funny.

Anybody has a degree in engineering in the lot?

Please, enlighten us at the secret knowledge of stretching tires in a performance application.

Here are a few questions to start:

What kind of lateral load does a drifting tire get? (Almost none)
How often does that tire hit a pothole on a race track? (Never, unless you run out of track)
What happens to the thread with the sidewall twisting it in a concave shape? (Mmmh...)
What happens to water when such a tire is going thru a puddle? (See topics on Tire Pressure + Rain for the correct answer)

In a drift application, a stretched tire will break away earlier, plus the reduced thread allows to slide at a lower speed. These are desirable. Plus it's a show thing...

It's fine if you like the aesthetics of a stretched tire. But don't fool yourself in thinking you're perfectly safe and the tire will behave the way it's designed to work...
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Originally Posted by Kolia
You guys are funny.

Anybody has a degree in engineering in the lot?

Please, enlighten us at the secret knowledge of stretching tires in a performance application.

Here are a few questions to start:

What kind of lateral load does a drifting tire get? (Almost none)
How often does that tire hit a pothole on a race track? (Never, unless you run out of track)
What happens to the thread with the sidewall twisting it in a concave shape? (Mmmh...)
What happens to water when such a tire is going thru a puddle? (See topics on Tire Pressure + Rain for the correct answer)

In a drift application, a stretched tire will break away earlier, plus the reduced thread allows to slide at a lower speed. These are desirable. Plus it's a show thing...

It's fine if you like the aesthetics of a stretched tire. But don't fool yourself in thinking you're perfectly safe and the tire will behave the way it's designed to work...
https://my350z.com/forum/2003-2009-nissan-350z/286211-psa-tread-not-thread.html
Old 07-24-2007, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by OffsetZ33
Kolia still has a point though, potholes will own those wheels, especially in 19 and 20" sizes, not to mention nails in the sidewall, uneven tread pattern, riding on the inside sidewall etc.
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Originally Posted by OffsetZ33
Merci de la mise au point.

On retrouve tellement de mots a sonorité semblable dans la langue anglaise qu'on a parfois du mal a retrouver la bonne orthographe. Remarque, la même situation se pressente en français aussi dans bien des cas.

Le français est ma langue maternelle soit dis en passant. L'anglais est ma troisième langue après l'Italien. Toi tu parles autres chose que l'anglais?

As-tu un autre argument directement relié a la discussion en court?

Ciao ciao
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^^^ My Japanese blows and my French is even worse...

Back to topic - go go super duper stretching tires!!!!
Old 07-24-2007, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by redlude97
Kolia still has a point though, potholes will own those wheels, especially in 19 and 20" sizes, not to mention nails in the sidewall, uneven tread pattern, riding on the inside sidewall etc.

next time you see a pothole, make sure and ram it, im sure that the diffrence will be null with a 275 on a 10" and a 255 on a 10".
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Originally Posted by daytona350z
next time you see a pothole, make sure and ram it, im sure that the diffrence will be null with a 275 on a 10" and a 255 on a 10".
255 on a 10" isn't a stretch.

245 on 10.5" is getting wide a bit...


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