jinsei888

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lol, less than 10% haahaa

either you have no clue what your talking about, or you are referencing some personal experience with some friends that are not so smart haha

tougeracing

only idiots would buy a tire with 10% tread life left on it. lol

deviljon

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lol 10%

you slay me redlude97.

Kolia

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I'd rather use common sense than blind Faith in the case at hand. No need of a degree.

Seeing it done on tv isn't worth much. Race applications don't translate directly in the real world either. New, freshly mounted tires every other run at the track vs 2 years on the street ? Repeated impact on open road vs a few bumps at the track ?

What are the chances of a blow out? Slim in most cases.
Is a stretched tire more at risk of suffering a blow out or bead separation? Definitely!

At the end of the day, you guys can make your own decisions. Just don't fool yourself in thinking you don't affect the tire's safety when it's stretched.

Z04

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very well said Lou. if people want to go out and do this to their cars, let them. I just expect to see a bunch of threads created about "my wheels got messed up" or "i wrecked my Z due to loss of traction" or "my sidewall blew out". but hey, they obviously got the money to replace any parts and/or vehicles they mess up by doing something like this so let them. at least i know my car will still be on the road rather than having something that "looks cool"

lovemelongtime

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So how many tires have you seen pop off becouse of this????
have you watched d1 when the car hits the lip of the track (hard very hard) and the tire is still on sometimes fliping the cars over??????
how about the big bumps they hit with stiff Suspension tires dont come off????
The touge runs on ruff roads at near limits tires stay on .

all of this and the tires dont fall off but the wheels have.

tougeracing

+ BUMP for more drama .

redlude97

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Obviously you haven't hung out on 240 boards at all, because alot of them use low treadlife tires on a regular basis. Half of them are rolling around on mismatched wheels/tires, and you are telling me ALL of them buy new tires all the time? They get them for cheap/free and reuse them, its pretty common, so I guess I DO know what I am talking about. Here's a little reading on the subject to educate yourself
http://www.drifting.com/forums/archi...php/t-249.html
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/search/...ront_1213.html
http://www.driftcentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101

lovemelongtime

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this is very true.

daytona350z

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all those threads proved that they used old tires and not stretched tires onto thier wide rims rims...

give you another tip, stop reading internet forums where people talk about drifting, because you get about 90% posers on the fanboy forums.

lovemelongtime

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ARE YOU A POSER BECAUSE YOU ARE ON A FORUM AND DIDNT SEE WHAT HE WAS SAYING..

jinsei888

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yet again, redlude does not know how to stay on topic, let's move back to the original discussion of stretched tire relevance, rather than my attack on you and kolia's defense of the "aging tire PDF file" defense.

formulaZ

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daytona350z

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no, on the contrary actually-i drive my car. but i am, unlike yourself, literate and can read his posts and make aguments to that what he said only proves half of his rgument.

ihatethatbobbarker

that is a 4 year old thread people are smarter now and most people on forums dont actually drift they just talk about it. Woot to my first post from my I phone btw

redlude97

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The second post I made isn't even from a forum, its an article from a newspaper where the use of old tires by drifters actually drifting is mentioned. How come when I bring up the cars other than the 350z I'm going off topic, but you guys use all other cars with stretched tires as your justification for why it is fine to use? My point is that drifters, by your own defense almost always stretch their tires, buy used tires all the time. Stretching used tires make Kolia's pdf relevant to the argument. Nowhere does anyone say that if you stretch your tire that it will magically blow up and you will die. You DO increase the risks compared to a nonstretched tire, simple physics makes that obvious, especially for daily drivers. Why is that so hard to understand? If you think it is just as safe to stretch a tire beyond the specs given by the manufacturer, then you have some issues. The extent to which the safety is comprimised is variable, and highly dependant on tire size, wheel width and diameter, amount of stretch, tire brand etc.

daytona350z

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use of old tires-yes. anything about stretching old tires-no

also, that article was made by someone, like yourself, that doesnt drift, therefore; i dont really accpet that article as valid nor accurate.

i dont even know why i choose to argue with someone about something, drifting, that he, or she (you never know), has NO experience with whatsoever.

350zspl

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i see your point how their assests are directly related to tire choice

ihatethatbobbarker

i've admitted there is increased risk, but the risk is negligible and thats why its ok to do it. it's also probably why theres not data on it.

redlude97

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The article doesn't have to say that explicitly that drifters stretch used tires onto wheels.Here's the argument spelled out for you to understand.

1. Alot of drifters stretch tires by your own admission.
2. Alot of drifters use old tires by your own admission

CONCLUSION: Some drifters who use old tires stretch them onto wide wheels. That is the easy deduction from those two facts. Anyone who has any sort of college education could have figured that out.

Newsflash! Most of the articles written about drifting aren't written by drifters!

Why do I have to be a drifter to discuss wheel and tires, I didn't know only drifters stretched tires. VIP style car owners and lowriders have been doing if for as long as drifters if not longer. But they don't know what they are talking about right?