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Old 04-28-2008, 07:22 PM
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I had to purchase new tires today and I'm not sure but I think the guy from Big O Tires might have gotten the wrong tires for me. If you guys can help me out I'd greatly appreciate it. I have the GT rims 18/19 combo and the guy ordered 285/35/19 for the rears and 225/45/18 for the fronts. The front rims are 18X9 will the 225/45/18 fit or even work with the fronts. I know the rears fit fine but I'm not too sure about the fronts.
Old 04-28-2008, 07:34 PM
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^^ The fronts (225) are too narrow. You want 245/40-18” or 255/40-18” at least.

225 front and 285 rear will make the car understeer.

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that is terrible.

you are going wide on the rear and ultra super narrow on the front.

you should put a 255 on the front. at least
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Originally Posted by Spike100
^^ The fronts (225) are too narrow. You want 245/40-18” or 255/40-18” at least.

225 front and 285 rear will make the car understeer.

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Thank you very much. Man I'm gonna have to call that guy up tomorrow and tell him to get me different tires for the fronts. I looked at the receipt right now and noticed that he had ordered 225's. He told me he got the measurements from my current tires but I looked again and the stocks are 245/40/18's. I think he just messed up. But that's what I get for not paying attention.
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^^ He probably looked at the chart for 18x8” wheels (the common wheel size for Z’s) which are usually fitted with 225/45-18” front tires.

225 on your 9” wide wheels will be stretched. A bigger problem is teaming 225 fronts with 285 rears. The 285 rears will overpower the 225 fronts in turns. This combination would create a great deal of understeer (poor handling) and cause your fronts to wear quickly.

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What worries me now is that I left a deposit and after reading the receipt it states at the bottom "No Refunds Or Exchanges" But I wouldn't consider it an exchange if I haven't even received the tires yet.
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It’s certainly not an exchange. As you point out, you don’t have the tires yet. Add to this the dealer is liable here for offering/suggesting a poor setup. 225’s on 9” wheels will be stretched, and combining 225’s with 285’s will make the car understeer to the point it will “plow” in tight turns. A 245/40-18” or 255/40-18” tire in front will work well.

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Originally Posted by Spike100
It’s certainly not an exchange. As you point out, you don’t have the tires yet. Add to this the dealer is liable here for offering/suggesting a poor setup. 225’s on 9” wheels will be stretched, and combining 225’s with 285’s will make the car understeer to the point it will “plow” in tight turns. A 245/40-18” or 255/40-18” tire in front will work well.

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Thanks bro for all your help. I had them change the order this morning but it took a lot of convincing. Don't know why they gave me hell about it even though it was their mistake. But also mine for not reading the receipt before I left. They got me 245/40/18 for the front and could only find 295/35/19 that match. So since I'm not planning on lowering the car anytime soon and when I do I'll just get the fenders rolled.
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I would not put a 225 mm tire on a 9.0 inch wheel but that’s just me. As members have mentioned consider 265 plus or minus 10 mm.

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Old 04-29-2008, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by na_350z
They got me 245/40/18 for the front and could only find 295/35/19 that match. So since I'm not planning on lowering the car anytime soon and when I do I'll just get the fenders rolled.

Will that make your TCS complain?
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That 295 is going to take you for a ride. 285/35/18 was pushing it, your better suited for a 275/40/18 but a 295... more hassle than they will be worth figuring your NA and dont need the extra tire.
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sorry to thread jack but dont want to start another.

Currently running 19x9.5 +17 front and 19x10.5 +18 Rear. 255/35/19 upfront and 275/35/19 rear. I think I would like to go with 285/35/19 in the rear. I understand this might cause rubbing but am willing to roll the fender if necessary.

My question is this is the size i should go with correct? 285/35/19

not 285/30/19. (saw a pic of the same wheel running 285/30/19 so got a little confused)
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When you don't have a clue, blame the vendor!
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Originally Posted by LAKERSFAN
sorry to thread jack but dont want to start another.

Currently running 19x9.5 +17 front and 19x10.5 +18 Rear. 255/35/19 upfront and 275/35/19 rear. I think I would like to go with 285/35/19 in the rear. I understand this might cause rubbing but am willing to roll the fender if necessary.

My question is this is the size i should go with correct? 285/35/19

not 285/30/19. (saw a pic of the same wheel running 285/30/19 so got a little confused)
there is no 'correct' size.
Each tire can fit on a range of rim sizes. My DD tires are 225f and 235r. My track tires are 275 all around. (17x7.5f 17x8r)
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Originally Posted by HondaKiller
That 295 is going to take you for a ride. 285/35/18 was pushing it, your better suited for a 275/40/18 but a 295... more hassle than they will be worth figuring your NA and dont need the extra tire.
I agree but I have the Stillen Supercharger kit sitting in my garage. I travel a lot and usually don't have time anymore. I'm waiting on a few things before I go FI
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Originally Posted by sukebe
Will that make your TCS complain?
At the moment I have 245/40/18 and 285/35/18 never had a problem with TCS. The guy told me that 295's shouldn't cause a problem. Can I trust his word... No.
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^^ I’ve lost track (excuse the pun) of what you’re doing. This is really getting “screwed-up.”

If I have it right, you are now planning 245/40-18” on 18x9” wheels front, and 295/35-19” rear (changed from the original plan of installing 285/35-19” rear because the tire dealer doesn’t have 285/35-19” ).

If that is the case, it works for matching OEM tire size specifications as to overall diameter (tire height). It will work with VDC or TCS.

But, I wonder about this new suggestion your tire guy is making (295’s on the rear instead of 285’s that you originally ordered). 275/35-19” will fit and work perfectly, and that’s probably the case with 285/35-19” tires. I’m not sure about 295/35-19” tires. This size may rub during full suspension travel with your rear wheels.

I would print-out this thread and show it to your tire guy. I think 295’s on the rear will overpower 245’s on the front and push your car into an understeer situation when you turn-in hard during cornering.

Actually, you should ask for a full refund and go to another tire shop that knows what they are doing and stocks a full line of tires.

--Spike
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Originally Posted by Spike100
^^ I’ve lost track (excuse the pun) of what you’re doing. This is really getting “screwed-up.”

If I have it right, you are now planning 245/40-18” on 18x9” wheels front, and 295/35-19” rear (changed from the original plan of installing 285/35-19” rear because the tire dealer doesn’t have 285/35-19” ).

If that is the case, it works for matching OEM tire size specifications as to overall diameter (tire height). It will work with VDC or TCS.

But, I wonder about this new suggestion your tire guy is making (295’s on the rear instead of 285’s that you originally ordered). 275/35-19” will fit and work perfectly, and that’s probably the case with 285/35-19” tires. I’m not sure about 295/35-19” tires. This size may rub during full suspension travel with your rear wheels.

I would print-out this thread and show it to your tire guy. I think 295’s on the rear will overpower 245’s on the front and push your car into an understeer situation when you turn-in hard during cornering.

Actually, you should ask for a full refund and go to another tire shop that knows what they are doing and stocks a full line of tires.

--Spike

I did just that... My buddy called me right before heading to the tire shop when I asked him to find me some 285/35/19 tires. He found them with in 2 minutes of searching. I went to Big O Tires and requested a refund. The manager came out telling me that they can't refund money on special ordered items. Finally I had it and demanded my money back. Went down to my buddy's shop where he had my Falkens 452's waiting for me. I got the 245/40/18 front and 285/35/19 for the rear.

I was desperate since I had two nails in both my rears that were on run flats and no tire shop would touch nor patch them. I figured Big O Tires could handle getting me tires asap but they just caused nothing but headaches.
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Originally Posted by na_350z
I did just that... My buddy called me right before heading to the tire shop when I asked him to find me some 285/35/19 tires. He found them with in 2 minutes of searching. I went to Big O Tires and requested a refund. The manager came out telling me that they can't refund money on special ordered items. Finally I had it and demanded my money back. Went down to my buddy's shop where he had my Falkens 452's waiting for me. I got the 245/40/18 front and 285/35/19 for the rear.

I was desperate since I had two nails in both my rears that were on run flats and no tire shop would touch nor patch them. I figured Big O Tires could handle getting me tires asap but they just caused nothing but headaches.
Adding a lot more understeer to your car FTL , 265/35-18 would have been a lot better choice for the front.
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