spacers?
anyone use spacers with their wheels to make them more flush with the fenders? i have 18" stock wheels, and i want to make them potrude out more. how far can i go without rubbing the wheelwell on a bump? how much are they, and where can i get them...also, what is involved in installing them? ive heard of people using 15mm and 25mm.
thanks......so, what did you end up using on yours? is 25mm a safe bet to use all the way around? did you find a place that sells the spacers and bolts you need in a kit? thanks
Fresno, I did considerable research before ordering my spacers for my Rays Tracks. First, be aware that there is a lot of junk out there.
1. Your spacers should be forged, not cast. Mine are forged from 6061 6T billet aluminum by Fred Goeske of Design Deluxe (wheeladapters.com) I guess stainless could be okay, too, but heavier.
2. Your spacers should be hub centric AND wheel centric. Hubcentric simply means the spacer has a recess that fits perfectly onto the hub; wheel centric means there is also a protrusion, or lip that fits perfectly into the wheel. In other words, the spacer effectively becomes a section of the wheel and a section of the hub.
Some economy spacers do not have these features. These spacers cannot work properly because they require the studs to center the wheel. Studs cannot center a wheel and the load ends up being tranferred to your studs. This is the cause of the vibrations you may have heard discussed, among other problems. Hub/wheel centric spacers transfer loads directly to the hub. Not only do they not cause vibrations, but they can be an effective fix for existing vibrations that may have been caused by improperly fitted wheels or spacers.
How thick your spacers should be depends, of course, on what wheels (and tires) you plan to install and how much you want to increase your track. I was thinking 25mm rear and 15mm front, but Fred encouraged me to go to 20mm on the front. I have not received them yet. I'll let you know how it goes.
BTW, these are not cheap, but neither is your car or your new wheels.
1. Your spacers should be forged, not cast. Mine are forged from 6061 6T billet aluminum by Fred Goeske of Design Deluxe (wheeladapters.com) I guess stainless could be okay, too, but heavier.
2. Your spacers should be hub centric AND wheel centric. Hubcentric simply means the spacer has a recess that fits perfectly onto the hub; wheel centric means there is also a protrusion, or lip that fits perfectly into the wheel. In other words, the spacer effectively becomes a section of the wheel and a section of the hub.
Some economy spacers do not have these features. These spacers cannot work properly because they require the studs to center the wheel. Studs cannot center a wheel and the load ends up being tranferred to your studs. This is the cause of the vibrations you may have heard discussed, among other problems. Hub/wheel centric spacers transfer loads directly to the hub. Not only do they not cause vibrations, but they can be an effective fix for existing vibrations that may have been caused by improperly fitted wheels or spacers.
How thick your spacers should be depends, of course, on what wheels (and tires) you plan to install and how much you want to increase your track. I was thinking 25mm rear and 15mm front, but Fred encouraged me to go to 20mm on the front. I have not received them yet. I'll let you know how it goes.
BTW, these are not cheap, but neither is your car or your new wheels.
Last edited by zstricklen; Oct 20, 2003 at 12:09 PM.
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oh your from dayton zstricklen? cool. i grew up in hamilton/fairfield area. until i moved away in 93 in the marines. been in cali ever since. how is it back there?
Audito...Don't need longer studs. These spacers, or adapters, as Fred calls them are engineered to fit onto your hubs and then use the same studs you now have. Everything you need comes with the spacers. (Or I hope to Hell it does...As I said, I haven't received them yet.)
Fresno, Yeah, I live in Centerville. I was at Jungle Jim's in your old stomping grounds the other day. BTW, if you're going to stick with the stock performance wheels, just measure from where your tire is now out to where you would like it to be, then get spacers of that thickness.
(Do you remember or have you heard of Fearless Fred Goeske from the 60s and 70s? That's the guy. A real pro. He was turning 357 mph in 4.2 seconds in the early 80s in his Hydrogen Peroxide Rocket Car. Apparently the car was banned from NHRA events because of the speeds he was reaching and the associated liability.)
Fresno, Yeah, I live in Centerville. I was at Jungle Jim's in your old stomping grounds the other day. BTW, if you're going to stick with the stock performance wheels, just measure from where your tire is now out to where you would like it to be, then get spacers of that thickness.
(Do you remember or have you heard of Fearless Fred Goeske from the 60s and 70s? That's the guy. A real pro. He was turning 357 mph in 4.2 seconds in the early 80s in his Hydrogen Peroxide Rocket Car. Apparently the car was banned from NHRA events because of the speeds he was reaching and the associated liability.)
Originally posted by zstricklen
Mine are forged from 6061 6T billet aluminum by Fred Goeske of Design Deluxe (wheeladapters.com)
BTW, these are not cheap, but neither is your car or your new wheels.
Mine are forged from 6061 6T billet aluminum by Fred Goeske of Design Deluxe (wheeladapters.com)
BTW, these are not cheap, but neither is your car or your new wheels.
Originally posted by 350ed
How much did you guys pay for your custom Goeske spacers? TIA.
How much did you guys pay for your custom Goeske spacers? TIA.
Originally posted by fresno350
anyone use spacers with their wheels to make them more flush with the fenders? i have 18" stock wheels, and i want to make them potrude out more. how far can i go without rubbing the wheelwell on a bump? how much are they, and where can i get them...also, what is involved in installing them? ive heard of people using 15mm and 25mm.
anyone use spacers with their wheels to make them more flush with the fenders? i have 18" stock wheels, and i want to make them potrude out more. how far can i go without rubbing the wheelwell on a bump? how much are they, and where can i get them...also, what is involved in installing them? ive heard of people using 15mm and 25mm.
Last edited by noel; Oct 21, 2003 at 05:26 PM.
I had new wheels installed a week ago. I had the car aligned a few days after getting my springs installed. I noticed a slight vibration at freeway speeds. I guess I'll be need hubcentric and wheelcentric spacers?
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Wow im looking into spacers too and was wondering if these are good or should i order some from the company u guys got yours from?
Link!!!!!!
Link!!!!!!
the easiest way and much safer way to go would be to just get custom made adapters , spacer are way too dangorous and adapter would do the job ad even better , get adaters and wheel locks and u got wht uwant and no way for the wheel to fall of like it could with spacers
I'm going to be getting the 25mm H&R spacers to make room for big brakes. 
They look like an excellent design to me:
This site has a lot of good info as well:
http://www.livermoreperformance.com/...20Spacers.html

They look like an excellent design to me:
This site has a lot of good info as well:
http://www.livermoreperformance.com/...20Spacers.html



