wasup guys, i gotta 2005 350z base model. This is my first rearwheel drive car and loving it. One question. . . . how to you heat up the rear tires?! I dont know. . . I was told to slightly hold the brake while hitting the gas. . doesnt work. And yes it is manual. Can anyone help me. Thanks

 

are you giving it alot of rpm's and is your handbrake off? make a video of you doing it so we can see

 

rev to a few grand and let the clutch go. I heard some people putting it in second gear for this, but I dont track my car and would not **** up my tires like that on the street.

 

As an opening side note, because you have a base model, you will only be able to burnout one tire. The base model's lack of limited-slip differential means that your burnouts will leave one tire track.

Second, to perform a "standing burnout" (where you do a burnout with your foot lightly on the brake pedal to prevent the car from rolling forward), you need to pull your brake light fuse. The ECU senses throttle and brake at the same time and cuts power. It uses the brake light circuitry when performing this process. Sounds hokey, but 'tis the truth.

 

Best way to do it is to get the tires spinning first, then hit the brakes to hold the car still. But as was said, most likely without an LSD you will only spin one tire.

If you don't want a standing burnout, rev up to around 2500- 3000 rpm, pop the clutch and then modulate the gas pedal to stay around 5000-5500 rpm. Don't just mat the throttle and hold it there because you will probably pop the rev limiter several times, and that isn't really a good idea, causes a bunch of power surges throughout the drivetrain and makes it more likely that you will break something. Also, not sure how common wheel hop is on the Z, but if you start feeling a hopping or shuddering sensation while burning the tires, STOP the burnout, wheel hop is an excellent way to break something.

 

Kcobean.. Help me out here. I have seen this posted many times as a way to allow an auto transmission launch and no one has contra-dicted this, but coming back down my favorite hill climb today, I was just messing around with "heel toe" shifting and did not notice any intrusive ecu input. Is the ecu that smart that it allows heel toe shifting, but too dumb to allow a pre-tensioning auto transmission burnout.

 

Get this training video.

 

It's a good question you ask. All I can say is that the ECU is pretty darn intelligent. It receives enough data to make decisions based on vehicle speed, clutch state, engine load, etc. I remember trying to do a standing burnout, and as soon as I touched that brake pedal, the throttle was immediately reduced. And, like you, I H&T'd in my car frequently and never felt the computer "get in the way." I can't explain how the ECU decides when to intervene and when it doesn't, but I have witnessed it first hand.

The one clear difference between H&T and a burnout is clutch state. When you're H&T-ing, your clutch is disengaged (i.e. pedal down) while you're blipping the gas and on the brakes at the same time. During a burnout, the clutch is engaged (pedal up). I'm just speculating out loud of course, but I suspect it's all about the data the ECU receives. If you've ever seen the full spectrum of data that is available via even the OBD-II system, it's pretty mind-boggling.

 

Since when did we start heating up street tires?

 

i know the steps
but never tried on my Z..

 

Who said anything about street tires?

 

 

While this IS true it is not the case every time given good traction. Both burnouts I've done left two nice tire tracks. I have always wondered with a base model if I did a standing burnout what would happen. If the brakes grab evenly would I get them both to smoke if I don't press on the gas any harder than necessary?? I have looked in rearview mirror at a couple of more tracks I left by dumb luck like hitting some gravel or something loose WOT in first or second and yes it will leave only one tire track. Usually from a dead stop on flat road you'll get two though

 

ouch1011 - nice looking Probe in your sig. BTW. I had a '94GT brand new until I gave it up at 164,000 miles when I traded it in for my new Z in Jan. 05. I don't miss working on that thing the engine compartment is tight! But very fun, dependable car.

 

Good point. Maybe its a panic braking thing where people accidently hit both pedals in the garage and the ecu backs off on the gas. With the clutch in, no need to back off the gas.

 

I have a base as well and very rarely only spin one tire. Every burnout I've ever done has been both tires. Only in the rain, and eneven pavement while turning onto a street.
Dont do it on the street, but if you take out your brake light fuse, you can do brakestands all day long..

 

Good to know. Actually I missed that even a base model MT would need the brake light fuse pulled. That would have been disappointing. Better look at the FAQs again. The base does have a couple of assists like Brake Force Distribution and the one where it helps you apply full brakes if you get off the gas and on the brake real quick. I always thought that the brake light fuse trick was due to having Traction Control, which you and I don't have. I would love to do a couple of standing burnouts when I put my snow tires back on since they are down to the bars and need new ones if I am going to get around this winter Thanks for the tip.