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Old 09-25-2006, 02:11 PM
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hope this doesn't turn into which is better bullshat.. just want to know the ratio.
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Why would somebody purchase a sport car automatic. It misses the fun of changing gears, plus the transmision will last longer. The automatic also loses about 15% of power on drivetrain. I think automatics shouldn't be design for sports car's. There is no fun!
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aaaaaaaaaand the bullshat starts /\
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i knew it!!!
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So it begins............AGAIN
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Alright guys my 300C is automatic and my SE-R is manual. I love both manual and automatic. It just depends on needs and likes for the person. But, on my perspective I won't purchase a sport car automatic, it misses the fun. I dont' want to start a 20 page thread on hate. It just my point of view.
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At least he's admitting he's not trying to start a war
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There is more to a car than just the transmission, ie handling, looks, etc. To each their own.
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Originally Posted by reichlj
Why would somebody purchase a sport car automatic. It misses the fun of changing gears, plus the transmision will last longer. The automatic also loses about 15% of power on drivetrain. I think automatics shouldn't be design for sports car's. There is no fun!
He's right about the "why would anyone get an automatic sport car"

Theres really no reason to get it automatic unless you dont wanna take a chance. Trafic shouldnt be the reason to get an automatic over an MT. I live in L.A, and would never get an automatic.

But I still respect everyones opinion/decision...

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My right rotator cuff is torn and has been giving me problems for the past six years, so no manual until I can get it fixed. I'd rather not dislocate my shoulder while driving a manual. After it's fixed I might look into having a transmission swap or just getting a new MT.
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Default It's about 5% on start, virtually zero when locked

Originally Posted by reichlj
The automatic also loses about 15% of power on drivetrain.
The pumping losses in a modern AT are no more than 2 or 3 hp. It's the torque convertor that turns mechanical energy to heat - and that loss is virtually zero when the torque convertor is locked. With at least 4 solenoids for torque convertor lockup, multiple small-volume pumps for lubrication, a boost loop to return fluid to the pump inlet, and a single high-volume shift supply pump, today's ATs are nothing like the old 3 and 4 speed slushboxes you're thinking of.

One of the reasons I got an AT is the large number of people complaining about their manual trannys in Zs. There are lots of posts about crunching, bad synchros, rough shifting, and replaced 'boxes. I don't have time to visit my dealer about rough shifting. I don't miss stick in my daily driver - the car's so great otherwise that I love it, even with congenital absence of a pedal. But there's room in the world for both.
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Originally Posted by reichlj
Why would somebody purchase a sport car automatic. It misses the fun of changing gears, plus the transmision will last longer. The automatic also loses about 15% of power on drivetrain. I think automatics shouldn't be design for sports car's. There is no fun!
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Originally Posted by finallyaZdriver
My right rotator cuff is torn and has been giving me problems for the past six years, so no manual until I can get it fixed. I'd rather not dislocate my shoulder while driving a manual. After it's fixed I might look into having a transmission swap or just getting a new MT.
Your rotator cuff has been torn for 6 years? You need some HGH
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Originally Posted by reichlj
The automatic also loses about 15% of power on drivetrain.
the drive train loss is more espeially in a front engine rwd car. figure that 287hp 6-speed manual Zs dyno around 230-235...that's around 20% right there...and it's a manual! the auto probably loses around 23-26%
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i ve seen a lot of automatic heavy modded supras, those are sports car......


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