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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by K2bordr03
These people that claim they "know" what is going on just remind me why I'm in the military. Why don't you just say "CNN told me so", and how is you reading a bunch of articles anywhere near what it is actually like to be there in person?
When did I ever claim I knew what it was like to be there in person?

The only reason I originally said that my tax dollars are being thrown away on the guy who just joined the military, is because we have more military then we really need. I am not claiming we do not need a military.

We should bring our troops home.

And no, I do not believe in government conspiracies, just government folly.

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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Spideynw
Back in 1776. But what is your point? I never denied this.
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Originally Posted by Spideynw
Really? How so? Or do you just like to see yourself type?
as it turns out, you and your family don't have to worry about getting attacked. whether you think anything good is happening or not, the least you can do is admit that with US troops overseas, all those ticked off muslims are going after the easy targets, instead of hopping a plane, trying to buy weapons, etc.

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So how exactly did we "earn" those rights? No, the rights are inherent, for every single freaking person on the planet, which the United States does not respect.
really? LOL, dude you are killing me. so hey, since the freedom of speech is a right that is inherent for everyone, everywhere. i want you to go ahead and take your silly *** to Syria. find a warlord and tell him he is a loser and Allah sucks. let's see what happens! or go to Russia and tell Putin you are going to leak info that will ruin him........you might come down with something.

the US earned the rights we all enjoy by claiming this land of ours and then defending it multiple times. you think you would be allowed to talk like you do if we still belonged to Brittan? what if Hitler's plan worked out? what about N. Korea or Iran? think they wouldn't jump on the chance to attack us if they could?


Originally Posted by Spideynw
The fact that there has not been a terrorist attack since we went to war in the middle east is not proof that my freedoms have been protected because of our actions. I could just as easily claim that we have not been attacked simply because there are Middle Eastern countries that we have not yet invaded.

The 9/11 attack took years of preparation and planning to commit. More then the five years that we have been over there. It was also accomplished using civilian aircraft. No military weapons whatsoever. How easy do you think this would be to duplicate?

But you go ahead and keep living in your uneducated small world, while the United States creates enemies and destroys the lives of some of the poorest people on earth.
you truly are hopeless man, it really is sad.

i guess i like to ask people this when they have an outlook such as yours. why are you still here? if you hate it so much, why not leave? i hear Canada is nice this time of year and you aren't to far away. or perhaps you just enjoy being an uneducated moron who questions everything.

let me guess, the military shot down the WTC towers right?

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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Spideynw
I think blindly "supporting" the troops without understanding the politics of why they are there is much less caring.
The member in the military don't make the policies. Hate on the politicians if you wish, but support those who take up that uniform.

It is obvious you do not understand what I have been trying to communicate so far,
I know exactly what you are trying to communicate. You don't like the government, feel that any monies spent on the military is a waste of your money, and you feel that the military gets what they deserve in regards to death/injury. You are an apologist, plain and simple. Every woe out there in the world is because of the fault of the big, bad United States.

especially if you may be a cop that thinks public baby sitting is an honorable occupation (your statement you are in law enforcement lead me to this conclusion).
My occupation is an honorable one, regardless what you think. And as I typed, I also perform alot of volunteer work for my community. I have made it a point in my adult life to try to serve my community the best I can. By your own omission when asked, you admit you do nothing for yours, besides pointless ranting on an e-board.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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Wars are fought to defend your rights to say what you want and think how you want. If those people who disagree with the war wish to speak about it badly, then guess what, they can because people have died fighting to defend that right.

I see it all the time; people hate the war, which is fine. Support the people in it though, they are there doing their job, regardless if they agree or not.

Freedom of speech is earned, not inherent. It is inherent for Americans now, because we have defended the rights for it. Go into a communist country and talk bad about the government, see if you don’t wind up in jail for a very long time or dead.

Everyone in the military is a volunteer, regardless of the situation they are in; they joined on their own free will. I have been very proud of serving my country for 10 years now, 5 of them on Active Duty and currently on my 3rd deployment. I will continue to come do my part, however little and insignificant it may be to allow us all to defend that right for everyone in the US to do what they are offered "inherently".

I know I probably could be doing better financially on the outside world of the military, but to me it’s more than that. I love the military and have since I was 8 years old. I will do my 20+ years and then get out. I will support all troops until the day I die. To me, there is nothing nobler that a person willing to help others out and make our country what it is today.
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