do not purchase from kayfunk
Oh and BTW stop using the word blasphemy to describe what is being done to your name. It's not like you're a god or anything. I think Slander is the word you're looking for.
Meth (doing some edumacating of his own)
Meth (doing some edumacating of his own)
Originally Posted by Fingers
I think there is also a way to make a complaint against the shop, mechanics have something like the BBB that you make complaints to. The shop name should also be posted so that they don't install broken parts on any other cars.
Originally Posted by ParanoidAndroid
dont bring the shop into this one, they didn't screw up. they were doing what the customer wanted.
or it could be the mechanics fault. and you dont know that they would charge alot, it could be an honest shop doing cheap work meaning you get this chicken wire. or they could be the next jiffy lube. just don't talk trash about the shop if you do not know about this shop. i dont work for this shop, obviously
Originally Posted by ParanoidAndroid
or it could be the mechanics fault. and you dont know that they would charge alot, it could be an honest shop doing cheap work meaning you get this chicken wire. or they could be the next jiffy lube. just don't talk trash about the shop if you do not know about this shop.
hahahaha i actually red all 13 pages!!!! =D this would be a GREAT BOOK SELLER!!!!!!! and actually would attract young readers.... =D ....
... so whats the progress of the paypal claim or the CC??
... so whats the progress of the paypal claim or the CC??
wtf?
lol forget i was ever defending this shop. lol.
scared of what and how am i being shady now? i was merely looking out for a shop, that could be an honest shop, or a theif. i have no clue, if they are a thief then i fail. i dont even know kayfunk, i've read alot of post from him on importatlanta.com
lol forget i was ever defending this shop. lol.
scared of what and how am i being shady now? i was merely looking out for a shop, that could be an honest shop, or a theif. i have no clue, if they are a thief then i fail. i dont even know kayfunk, i've read alot of post from him on importatlanta.com
Last edited by ParanoidAndroid; Feb 3, 2008 at 01:00 PM.
Originally Posted by MethodRN
K, I've read as much as I can read of all this BS, so I've got some questions.
1. Kayfunk, how long were you riding around w/ that flange all screwed up like that? I'm guessing with that much damage to the flange the exhaust note of your car would have changed. If so, didn't you wanna know what caused it? I know I would have. In fact if one day my ehaust sounded like when I first installed it, then woke up and found my exhaust sounded completely different I would have gone immediately to find out why.
1. Kayfunk, how long were you riding around w/ that flange all screwed up like that? I'm guessing with that much damage to the flange the exhaust note of your car would have changed. If so, didn't you wanna know what caused it? I know I would have. In fact if one day my ehaust sounded like when I first installed it, then woke up and found my exhaust sounded completely different I would have gone immediately to find out why.
2. It doesn't seem like your car is that low, so I don't see how you should have scrapped the exhaust cannister. Not familiar w/ the JIC cannister, but I'm assuming it's not much bigger than the stock one. I just don't think Nissan would have designed their car's exhaust to scrape over speed bumps. So where did the damage come from?
Originally Posted by MethodRN
K, I've read as much as I can read of all this BS, so I've got some questions.
1. Kayfunk, how long were you riding around w/ that flange all screwed up like that? I'm guessing with that much damage to the flange the exhaust note of your car would have changed. If so, didn't you wanna know what caused it? I know I would have. In fact if one day my ehaust sounded like when I first installed it, then woke up and found my exhaust sounded completely different I would have gone immediately to find out why.
2. It doesn't seem like your car is that low, so I don't see how you should have scrapped the exhaust cannister. Not familiar w/ the JIC cannister, but I'm assuming it's not much bigger than the stock one. I just don't think Nissan would have designed their car's exhaust to scrape over speed bumps. So where did the damage come from?
The reason I ask is because, even without visual inspection, I'd like to think that a member of this forum is knowledgeable enough to know that something is wrong just from the change in exhaust note that broken flange would have made.
Now for the buyer,
1. Why wouldn't you inspect or at least ask to see the product before it was put on your car. As an example, when I go have tires mounted I may not go into the shop but I at least stand in front of the bay where my car is being worked on. From there you should have at least seen the shody work that was being done to your $30K car.
2. Why were you in such a rush to complete this transaction. If I were gonna drive that far to save on shipping I would have at least asked to see pics of the exhaust. Lesson learned, sucks to find out the hard way.
As for solution. Just give a refund, It seems like you'd get your exhaust back before the money is released by paypal. So you're not at a loss either way. Then go your seperate ways. Kayfunk, seems like your reputation will be shot regardless and you probably won't be able to sell your exhaust even if you fixed what you call cosmetic damages. Since you didn't need that $700 for your HKS then you would just end up w/ a JIC paper weight.
1. Kayfunk, how long were you riding around w/ that flange all screwed up like that? I'm guessing with that much damage to the flange the exhaust note of your car would have changed. If so, didn't you wanna know what caused it? I know I would have. In fact if one day my ehaust sounded like when I first installed it, then woke up and found my exhaust sounded completely different I would have gone immediately to find out why.
2. It doesn't seem like your car is that low, so I don't see how you should have scrapped the exhaust cannister. Not familiar w/ the JIC cannister, but I'm assuming it's not much bigger than the stock one. I just don't think Nissan would have designed their car's exhaust to scrape over speed bumps. So where did the damage come from?
The reason I ask is because, even without visual inspection, I'd like to think that a member of this forum is knowledgeable enough to know that something is wrong just from the change in exhaust note that broken flange would have made.
Now for the buyer,
1. Why wouldn't you inspect or at least ask to see the product before it was put on your car. As an example, when I go have tires mounted I may not go into the shop but I at least stand in front of the bay where my car is being worked on. From there you should have at least seen the shody work that was being done to your $30K car.
2. Why were you in such a rush to complete this transaction. If I were gonna drive that far to save on shipping I would have at least asked to see pics of the exhaust. Lesson learned, sucks to find out the hard way.
As for solution. Just give a refund, It seems like you'd get your exhaust back before the money is released by paypal. So you're not at a loss either way. Then go your seperate ways. Kayfunk, seems like your reputation will be shot regardless and you probably won't be able to sell your exhaust even if you fixed what you call cosmetic damages. Since you didn't need that $700 for your HKS then you would just end up w/ a JIC paper weight.
1.I never road around with that flange like that on my car. When forged put my test pipes on they showed me the gasket that needed to be replaced, that was causing the leak. I could get the person who showed me to post here for further proof, he was at forged when i came to pick up my HKS, he drives a blue EVO 9. There was no broken flange when it was put on his car. So somewhere between now and mark taking off the exhaust there was a broken flange.
2.My car is stock height, but the Z is still low, and the JIC canaster, the very bottom of it, is definitely lower than stock. Im sure you dont care, but you could ask anyone that knows me, i bottomed out almost evertime i went over a speedbump. If you look at the picture mark took only the VERY BOTTOM of the canister is scraped, not the part that's actually viewable from the rear of the vehicle. Hell, even take alook at the picture i posted when i put it up for sale.
And yes, my rep is ruined, which is why i refuse to just drop everything and help this guy out. I did enough for him already. I told him i would cover install fee, save him on shipping and even take off his old exhaust and install it on the buyer for his car. All at no cost to him. Once again, his negligence had him paying another $50, instead of going "hey kris said he would take care of that", and have the owner of the shop call me and confirm!; he just paid it. This further proves that he's a very negligent person. This whole thing is ridiculous, and i don't understand how anyone could be on his side, especially after i've offered to fix the exhaust, which at this point is the right thing to do. I will state again and i will continually state, if he had come to ME with the problem, before bringing it on HERE, i would have been more than happy to refund him. It just erks me, that he went out of his way to tarnish my name, even after i told him "i get off work at 11, you'll have to wait, but ill call you when i get out." Yet, he STILL came on here and posted everything. Ruining any chances of me being sympathetic to this idiot and helping him out 100%, after i already helped him enough, and im offereing to fix the exhaust still! Everyone i know says i should say; **** this *******, i can't believe you're offering to give him anything.
Originally Posted by ParanoidAndroid
dont bring the shop into this one, they didn't screw up. they were doing what the customer wanted.
Originally Posted by Fingers
They put his exhaust on with chicken wire, if they have a bad mechanic then that needs to be taken care of. The fact that you are so worried about this shop, makes me suspicious, I wonder if the owner knows whats going on and that his people are involved in scams. I think we need to get that shops name and direct the owner/ management to this thread. I wouldn't do that to car if someone asked me, instead I would send them away with all their money, $50 is not worth potential customers knowing thats the kind of work they put out.
The owner of the shop will be posting as soon as his username is approved. he's been waiting for approval since 2 days ago.
I'm just playing devil's advocate here. I don't care either way, don't know either party and actually feel a refund is in order. Kayfunk argues that everyone he know's says he's right.... well of course they would, more than likely they are your friends. However, in a court of public opinion, w/ majority of people who don't know either party, can see that the best solution is a refund and return of exhaust.
K, so you're claiming that damage was caused by the buyer? As of now the forum I would say can't argue that fact for either party, because the buyer did not see what condition the exhaust was in prior to driving x amount of miles back home. The buyer can't honestly expect the forum to believe that there isn't a POSSIBLITY that the damage was caused at some point after installation. I know he'll argue that he was told of an exhaust leak, and so the sound did not alarm him and that he didn't damage it while driving home. But just as I don't believe Kayfunk completely, I can't believe Kram completely either. So unless there is video of him driving home and taking off exhaust to prove otherwise. There is that POSSIBILITY.
You're right I don't care, I was just curious how you were bottoming out, when I'm lowered w/ an aftermarket exhaust and never scrape that part of the exhaust. However, who knows, maybe the ATL speedbumps are bigger.
Originally Posted by kayfuNk
1.I never road around with that flange like that on my car. When forged put my test pipes on they showed me the gasket that needed to be replaced, that was causing the leak. I could get the person who showed me to post here for further proof, he was at forged when i came to pick up my HKS, he drives a blue EVO 9. There was no broken flange when it was put on his car. So somewhere between now and mark taking off the exhaust there was a broken flange.
Originally Posted by kayfuNk
2.My car is stock height, but the Z is still low (NOOOOO, really? I hadn't noticed on my own car)
,and the JIC canaster, the very bottom of it, is definitely lower than stock. Im sure you dont care, but you could ask anyone that knows me, i bottomed out almost evertime i went over a speedbump. If you look at the picture mark took only the VERY BOTTOM of the canister is scraped, not the part that's actually viewable from the rear of the vehicle. Hell, even take alook at the picture i posted when i put it up for sale.
,and the JIC canaster, the very bottom of it, is definitely lower than stock. Im sure you dont care, but you could ask anyone that knows me, i bottomed out almost evertime i went over a speedbump. If you look at the picture mark took only the VERY BOTTOM of the canister is scraped, not the part that's actually viewable from the rear of the vehicle. Hell, even take alook at the picture i posted when i put it up for sale.
Bro, I think the shop had as much fault as "***Funk." How can a shop NOT let you know about using "chicken wires", busted mounting points on the muffler AND a big *** crack in the exhaust flange. A "GOOD" shop should had responded by saying, "that muffler has some issues that needs to be resolve before installation." COME ON, its a 350Z and how can the shop NOT notice that the muffler is a POS.
Just my 2cents.
Just my 2cents.
Originally Posted by ParanoidAndroid
or it could be the mechanics fault. and you dont know that they would charge alot, it could be an honest shop doing cheap work meaning you get this chicken wire. or they could be the next jiffy lube. just don't talk trash about the shop if you do not know about this shop. i dont work for this shop, obviously
Originally Posted by ComBat
Bro, I think the shop had as much fault as "***Funk." How can a shop NOT let you know about using "chicken wires", busted mounting points on the muffler AND a big *** crack in the exhaust flange. A "GOOD" shop should had responded by saying, "that muffler has some issues that needs to be resolve before installation." COME ON, its a 350Z and how can the shop NOT notice that the muffler is a POS.
Just my 2cents.
Just my 2cents.
Originally Posted by kayfuNk
The owner of the shop will be posting as soon as his username is approved. he's been waiting for approval since 2 days ago.
It don't mean crap because the shop owner could be his buddy buddy. Of course, we have tendencies to back up people we know.
Originally Posted by Fingers
I wonder if a mod could verify this.
Originally Posted by Fingers
They put his exhaust on with chicken wire, if they have a bad mechanic then that needs to be taken care of. The fact that you are so worried about this shop, makes me suspicious, I wonder if the owner knows whats going on and that his people are involved in scams. I think we need to get that shops name and direct the owner/ management to this thread. I wouldn't do that to car if someone asked me, instead I would send them away with all their money, $50 is not worth potential customers knowing thats the kind of work they put out.
Originally Posted by kayfuNk
Precisely, the shop was doing ME a favor, if they had charged labor, they would have owed the mechanic about $200 a piece.



