Is there any way to peel out with an A/T without doing any damage to the Z? Ive been trying to figure out how to do it, but i dont even know if its possible. I didnt want to try anything too crazy in fear of my Z getting F'ed.

 

Turn off your TCS and you will be peeling out, becareful you might fishtail.

 

turn of traction control, you may be able to step on the brake and floor it, and break traction, standing burn out, but this does just rub your rear brakes hard, wouldnt do this much, but it is possible, atleast it was in my truck, of course 350ftlbs of torque nice and low may have made that possible. you just gotta overcome the brake power in the rear while having enough brake power in the front to not move foward.

for a general moving burnout, as he said, turn off tcs and floor it. you can do a brake stand to help you accomplish that, same as above but a little less gas and then let it go.

none of this is good for the car except maybe the flooring it thing.

safest way to do a standing burn, is a line lock.

 

here is another way of doing burnouts with a 5at. you cant brake torque the car with the abs brake fuse in ("stop lamp" on the fuse panel cover). you wont be able to rev past 3k so your tires wont spin for more than a second. with a switch installed or by pulling the abs fuse you can do burnouts at a stand still all day. ive been able to spin the tires all the way through second and into third gear while doing a slow moving stage at the track.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....0&pagenumber=2

 

I don't know if this has crossed anyone's mind but it's absolutely number 1 on the DON'T DO THIS list.

DO NOT rev the engine in neutral and then drop it into Drive!!!

Only reason I bring it up is because I've known people who've done it. It's one of the best ways I know of to spit transmission fluid and parts "all" over the ground.

I've got no experience with the AT version of the 350Z. I would have thought that it would light the rear tires well enough with a good throttle stab. Probably not as well or easily as the MT car but still. My '01 Honda Odyssey will chirp the tires most of the time. Seems to me the 350Z would do a lot better than that!

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Steve R.

 

i dont think anyone was endorsing that idea, just the brake torque, line lock, and gunning it from a dead stop. but, like i said if you brake torque it (with the abs fuse in) or gun it from a dead stop you wont be able to spin the tires for more than a second. i think that any1 with half a brain would realize that neutral drops ruin transmissions, but its always good to remind any1 thinking of trying it.

 

The traction control keeps the Z from spinning the tires. Even when it's off, the tires have so much grip that it's tough to do. There's probably twice as much rubber on the road with the Z as their is with your Odyssey, and the rubber that's there has much more grip!

 

Oh, I don't know about the twice as much rubber part, but you're right, it does have to deal with a lot more grip. OTOH, the Z makes a lot more HP and torque. Also, the traction control, technically, doesn't keep the tires from spinning, it just keeps "one" tire from spinning faster than the other which means you have to break both of them loose at the same time. That's the hard part!

I was just teasing a bit with the comment about the Odyssey. Comparing the Odyssey to the 350Z is about as apples and oranges as it can get and there's obviously "no" comparison between the two when it comes to performance.

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Steve R.

 

From what I understand traction control does actually help stop tires from spinning by cutting back power electronically and using the ABS braking system.

The limited slip differential works on spinning tires evenly.

 

The TCS uses the ABS wheel speed sensors to detect when one wheel is accelerating significantly faster than the other. It will then apply the brakes on the overspeeding wheel to attempt to slow it down. By doing so, the power going to the spinning wheel will be directed to the wheel with greater traction. If both wheels break free evenly and accelerate together (admittedly, that's probably not likely but just for the sake of argument), then the TCS system has no way of knowing what's going on because both wheels are accelerating together, just like they would under normal acceleration. So, from the computers POV, there's no need to do anything.

As for the power being cut back electronically, I understand that can happen when the VDS system kicks in but that's to help stabilize the car from an impending skid or something. I'm not sure if it happens during a wheel overspeed. It's possible that they've got the system programmed to dial back the engine if it detects "unusual" acceleration. Say, 0 - 40 in 1/8th of a second but I don't know if that's the case or not.

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Steve R.

 

Yes that is the case, I have it automatic touring model with LSD no VDS and it cuts back automatically. Since I put on BorLa true duel exhaust I can usually get a pretty decent duel wheeled burnout with the traction control off depending on road surface conditions. But barely a chirp with the traction control on.

I remember driving a 98 Camaro Z28 and you could actually feel the gas pedal kicking back up at you, not a drive-by wire system like the Z where you would not feel that.

 

see my sig..... I have a 5AT.

turn off the TC and let her rip

 

Some of the stuff I read here amazes me.

I have a toggle switch covered with a protective cover that turns on and off torque management. Sort of like a WOT switch.

You lose brake lights with this so be careful. Power braking is not gonna do it with an A5T because power is cut by a whopping 30%.

 

TCS will not brake anything, thats VDC. TCS simply knows that something isnt right, and cuts engine power. it will not brake for you.

this doesnt matter if its 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 wheels, as long as somethin isnt right(pretty much all 4 not going at or near the same speed) it cuts power. VDC would take it a step farther and start breaking the wheels independently till it was all right.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ares
[B]TCS will not brake anything, thats VDC. TCS simply knows that something isnt right, and cuts engine power. it will not brake for you.

My understanding is most basic rear traction control systems not (limited slip differential) in addition to power cutback will basically use ABS to alternate and stop excessive spinning of rear wheels, are you sure.

 

This is madness.. I can stomp on my Track and it'll chirp for alittle.. SLIP comes on.. shows over. Notice what you feel when the fun ends.. less acceleration! It cuts the throttle. Bare end. Its not magic, its traction control.. and the only way to control traction is making sure that you have just enough throttle to take off without breaking the tires free.. when the TCS detects the spin, it cuts the throttle. Albeit alot more than it should, but it cuts it. Pay attention next time you stab the gas w/ VDC or TCS on.. notice the car feels like its only got 175 HP? Then all of a sudden it just comes alive again? TCS @ work. Cuts it untill it knows it can handle full throttle again, then the show is back on, untill 2nd gear.. then its Wash, Rinse, Repeat.. lol or however that goes, I don't do the laundry.

TCS is your enemy.. when trying to spin the tires, go thru the gears, or race :-)

- Joe

 

Let me clarify.. it feels like alittle more than 175HP lol, and thats when your car is illuminated w/ the words of the devil.. S L I P! lol

- Joe