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Old 06-11-2010, 07:52 AM
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so its the states fault now?

Old 06-11-2010, 08:04 AM
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The car took out about 50-60 feet of plastic fencing in the yard of Montgomery County Prosecutor Mat Heck Jr.

This.

Didn't have to go far to find the appropriate law enforcement?

No pity, kid shouldn't of been doing that on the street.

Flick, Finland has that kind of system in place. Takes 2-3 years to get a license. But look at the quality of drivers that come out of the system.
Old 06-11-2010, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 350junkie
The car took out about 50-60 feet of plastic fencing in the yard of Montgomery County Prosecutor Mat Heck Jr.

This.

Didn't have to go far to find the appropriate law enforcement?

No pity, kid shouldn't of been doing that on the street.

Flick, Finland has that kind of system in place. Takes 2-3 years to get a license. But look at the quality of drivers that come out of the system.

they also do this magical thing of actually enforcing the traffic laws to such an extent that people are afraid to break to the traffic law. Not like it is here.
Old 06-11-2010, 08:34 AM
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To young to be driving something like that anyways what do you think he would drive slow in it.
Old 06-11-2010, 08:46 AM
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such a stupid argument... it sucks the kid died but think of how many peoples eyes he opened, i bet everyone who knew that kid will be driving alot safer now, and hopefully alot of the parents will take it in their own hands that if they want to buy there kids a sports car that they will be responsible enough to take their kid out and teach them how to properly drive it and respect its limitations
Old 06-11-2010, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Novesh
they also do this magical thing of actually enforcing the traffic laws to such an extent that people are afraid to break to the traffic law. Not like it is here.
They don't have the general level of crime that we have either. Cops don't have time to worry about vehicle laws - they are spending most of their effort where it is needed - murder, rape, robbery, narcotics, etc.
Old 06-11-2010, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Flick Montana
This.

We need to teach defensive driving, accident avoidance, adverse condition driving, car control...lots of things. I remember when I was in driver's ed and it started absolutely pouring down rain. We pulled over and our teach drank his coffee until it passed...

Why can't we have state-run tracks with skid pads and obstacle courses?
LOL....the teach didn't want a wrecked car.


My father taught me to driver before I took drivers education. At one point in his life he taught drivers ed. His philosophy was that I should learn how to control (and loose control) a car in the worst conditions first. So he took me out to parking lots when it was wet/snowy several times before we went out on dry roads.
Old 06-11-2010, 11:06 AM
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I was gonna reference Finland, but you guys beat me to it in examples. I'd say the cops can be chill about enforcement, but schools would definitely TEACH folks how to drive before granting a permission to.
Old 06-11-2010, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Goin' Sidewayz!
I suppose it's all subjective. To me, 300hp isn't that much. High 13s in the quarter mile isn't that fast.

You can think it all you want, but you'll be wrong.
Vipers are slow.
Old 06-11-2010, 11:35 AM
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155,000 people die every day. Well 155,001 I suppose.
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Originally Posted by pulpz2
LOL....the teach didn't want a wrecked car.


My father taught me to driver before I took drivers education. At one point in his life he taught drivers ed. His philosophy was that I should learn how to control (and loose control) a car in the worst conditions first. So he took me out to parking lots when it was wet/snowy several times before we went out on dry roads.
Same basic idea my dad had with me. He let me drive his Tahoe from Syracuse to Philadelphia with my permit while he slept in the back. My first experience driving a car was a 5-speed civic right after a 24-inch snowstorm.

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Originally Posted by Phenom
Vipers are slow.
Old 06-11-2010, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pulpz2
LOL....the teach didn't want a wrecked car.
Yeah, that mid 90's Cutlass would have been a tragic loss.
Old 06-11-2010, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hartsickdiscipl
Same basic idea my dad had with me. He let me drive his Tahoe from Syracuse to Philadelphia with my permit while he slept in the back. My first experience driving a car was a 5-speed civic right after a 24-inch snowstorm.

My first driving experience was behind the wheel of a 1970 Chevelle with a 454 cu in and a 4-speed in an open parking lot. Lets just say the car need new tires after that, and not because I was trying to burn them.
Old 06-12-2010, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Phenom
Vipers are slow.
To your point... to is slow relative to an F1 car. And the viper owner would probably look like a fool trying to drive it (probably kill him self through overconfidence).

...you know the whole argument if a Z is fast or slow ( or any other car for that matter) as a mute point.


It's all relative to the driver. I remember when I first got my 350 it caught me by surprise a few time in corners ...my inexperience.
Old 06-12-2010, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DavesZ#3
They don't have the general level of crime that we have either. Cops don't have time to worry about vehicle laws - they are spending most of their effort where it is needed - murder, rape, robbery, narcotics, etc.
It was brought it, I didn't bring it up, and obviously they have less to worry about than we do here.

The example isn't that relevant in the US.
Old 06-12-2010, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Novesh
so its the states fault now?

No, I am just saying we need a better and harder license tests. I was told that the German license test is quite hard. No wonder the autobahn has no speed limit, because I am guessing the general population has decent driving skills; but here in the states, especially in LA, you don't even want to know.
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Originally Posted by Orange County
No, I am just saying we need a better and harder license tests. I was told that the German license test is quite hard. No wonder the autobahn has no speed limit, because I am guessing the general population has decent driving skills; but here in the states, especially in LA, you don't even want to know.

The autobahn is also of 100 times better construction quality than highways here in the US. That, and the autobahn isn't as limitless as it once was.
Old 06-12-2010, 03:34 PM
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no wonder we get bashed for having a sports car
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Originally Posted by Orange County
No, I am just saying we need a better and harder license tests. I was told that the German license test is quite hard. No wonder the autobahn has no speed limit, because I am guessing the general population has decent driving skills; but here in the states, especially in LA, you don't even want to know.
preaching to the choir...

it should be beyond hard imho


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