Hydro E-Brake
Originally Posted by daytona350z
indeed. especially after all the wrecks.
but i dont only drift my car, i take them to road courses, and i know if they see somehting t-ing into the factory lines like that, it would make them look twice. im sure they'd let you pass 90% of the time, but i'd rather make something like a dedicated caliper for this-a la rhys millen gto and solstice stuff.
but i dont only drift my car, i take them to road courses, and i know if they see somehting t-ing into the factory lines like that, it would make them look twice. im sure they'd let you pass 90% of the time, but i'd rather make something like a dedicated caliper for this-a la rhys millen gto and solstice stuff.
here..i have a pic....
- j
Eureka !!!!
OKAY - I THINK I GOT IT!
THIS SET UP SHOULD NOT MESS WITH ABS?
This should work....the remote master cylinders and input from the hydro ebrake handle will provide the braking power to rears!
it will also force fluid back toward the abs unit, but that should be one way valved? shouldn't affect anything right???? --- thats about my only question???
DIAGRAM: 1ST PIC ATTACHED BELOW
WILWOOD TANDEM MASTER CYLINDER - P/N 260-7563: 2ND PIC ATTACHED BELOW
WILWOOD PEDAL ASSEMBLY - P/N 340-1290 3RD PIC ATTACHED BELOW
In this pic you can see where i super imposed (always wanted to do that....lol) the tandem master cylinder and showed my baller 8 ball handle to show how it would be a PULL instead of a push style!??
8 ball -
EDIT 11/12/10:
TO BE CLEAR!! WHAT I LISTED IS "NOT" AN IN-LINE SET UP!!!!
KSPORT, CNC EBRAKE HANDLES WILL NOT WORK AS CONFIGURED ABOVE!
THE ABOVE LISTED IS ADDING IN A 2ND MASTER WITH RESERVOIR!!! ONE WAY VALVED.
- J
THIS SET UP SHOULD NOT MESS WITH ABS?
This should work....the remote master cylinders and input from the hydro ebrake handle will provide the braking power to rears!
it will also force fluid back toward the abs unit, but that should be one way valved? shouldn't affect anything right???? --- thats about my only question???
DIAGRAM: 1ST PIC ATTACHED BELOW
WILWOOD TANDEM MASTER CYLINDER - P/N 260-7563: 2ND PIC ATTACHED BELOW
WILWOOD PEDAL ASSEMBLY - P/N 340-1290 3RD PIC ATTACHED BELOW
In this pic you can see where i super imposed (always wanted to do that....lol) the tandem master cylinder and showed my baller 8 ball handle to show how it would be a PULL instead of a push style!??
8 ball -
EDIT 11/12/10:
TO BE CLEAR!! WHAT I LISTED IS "NOT" AN IN-LINE SET UP!!!!
KSPORT, CNC EBRAKE HANDLES WILL NOT WORK AS CONFIGURED ABOVE!
THE ABOVE LISTED IS ADDING IN A 2ND MASTER WITH RESERVOIR!!! ONE WAY VALVED.
- J
Last edited by JasonZ-YA; Nov 12, 2010 at 03:55 AM.
^^ TO BE CLEAR!! WHAT I LISTED UP THERE IS "NOT" AN IN-LINE SET UP!!!!
KSPORT, CNC EBRAKE HANDLES WILL NOT WORK AS CONFIGURED ABOVE!
THE ABOVE LISTED IS ADDING IN A 2ND MASTER WITH RESERVOIR!!! ONE WAY VALVED.
Now, i know i know, just disable the abs.........which everyone else does......and believe me, im not one for trying to stay in warranty or any of that crap-o-la, but today was very slow at work, so i started reading the abs system section in the service manual, then the brake section, then i started searching online and wilwood web site had all the answers!
-J
KSPORT, CNC EBRAKE HANDLES WILL NOT WORK AS CONFIGURED ABOVE!
THE ABOVE LISTED IS ADDING IN A 2ND MASTER WITH RESERVOIR!!! ONE WAY VALVED.
Now, i know i know, just disable the abs.........which everyone else does......and believe me, im not one for trying to stay in warranty or any of that crap-o-la, but today was very slow at work, so i started reading the abs system section in the service manual, then the brake section, then i started searching online and wilwood web site had all the answers!
-J
Last edited by JasonZ-YA; Nov 12, 2010 at 03:55 AM.
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you my friend, are a genius. i've never learned this much info on here in two days.
looks like im def. gonna get a hydro e-brake. Shouldn't cost more then $150 right? Only thing is, im scared to **** it up
looks like im def. gonna get a hydro e-brake. Shouldn't cost more then $150 right? Only thing is, im scared to **** it up
- J
wait, i just got sad...
.....im still paying for that........
Last edited by JasonZ-YA; Nov 20, 2008 at 12:55 PM.
Cost: Well when i called wilwood they told me that the tandem master was $131, i havent called yet to find out the price on the pedal assembly....
Then adding in the lines, Y or T fittings, flare tool for flaring your existing factory hard lines, fittings for those flared lines, etc..then shipping.....i say your probably at the 250 mark...
-j
Then adding in the lines, Y or T fittings, flare tool for flaring your existing factory hard lines, fittings for those flared lines, etc..then shipping.....i say your probably at the 250 mark...
-j
Option #2
Hi,
okay, here's another option. easier way to do this. It only required one more "T" or "Y" fitting.
MOST IMPORTANTLY - THIS SINGLE MASTER CYLINDER USES A SMALLER 5/8 BORE OVER THE ONE ABOVE WITH A 1 INCH BORE -
SOooo.: That means it will be easier to pull back and not require as long of a handle.
by my calculations you would need at least a 16 inch handle - 8 ball and all...lol
-J
DIAGRAM #2 - 1ST PIC ADDED BELOW:
WILWOOD SINGLE REMOTE RESERVOIR MASTER CYLINDER - P/N 260-10371 - 2ND PIC ADDED BELOW:
WILWOOD PEDAL ASSY - P/N 340-1290 - 3RD PIC ADDED BELOW:
*** Important - Its best you take a look at the pedal assy and how its built, i show two handle options because you would have to cut/notch out the top of the wilwood pedal assy in order for the pic of the handle on the right to work versus the pic on the left.
pic of handle on the LEFT is a handle with two arms coming forward so you wont have to cut the pedal assy.
4th pic shows the remote mounts and the dimension of tanks and master cylinder body - I like this one because its very small!!!
OH YEAH.:
WILWOOD SINGLE REMOTE RESERVOIR MASTER CYLINDER - P/N 260-10371 ONLY COST $81 BUCKS with both reservoirs and remote mounts and all.
-J
okay, here's another option. easier way to do this. It only required one more "T" or "Y" fitting.
MOST IMPORTANTLY - THIS SINGLE MASTER CYLINDER USES A SMALLER 5/8 BORE OVER THE ONE ABOVE WITH A 1 INCH BORE -
SOooo.: That means it will be easier to pull back and not require as long of a handle.
by my calculations you would need at least a 16 inch handle - 8 ball and all...lol
-J
DIAGRAM #2 - 1ST PIC ADDED BELOW:
WILWOOD SINGLE REMOTE RESERVOIR MASTER CYLINDER - P/N 260-10371 - 2ND PIC ADDED BELOW:
WILWOOD PEDAL ASSY - P/N 340-1290 - 3RD PIC ADDED BELOW:
*** Important - Its best you take a look at the pedal assy and how its built, i show two handle options because you would have to cut/notch out the top of the wilwood pedal assy in order for the pic of the handle on the right to work versus the pic on the left.
pic of handle on the LEFT is a handle with two arms coming forward so you wont have to cut the pedal assy.
4th pic shows the remote mounts and the dimension of tanks and master cylinder body - I like this one because its very small!!!
OH YEAH.:
WILWOOD SINGLE REMOTE RESERVOIR MASTER CYLINDER - P/N 260-10371 ONLY COST $81 BUCKS with both reservoirs and remote mounts and all.
-J
Last edited by JasonZ-YA; Jan 14, 2009 at 12:18 PM.
PEDAL ASSEMBLY:
PEDAL ASSY:
Now if you look at the picture of the pedal assembly you can see that it provides a 7 to 1 ratio. - thats used as a foot pedal and obviously you have more strength in your legs.
So, you would need more like a 9 to 1 ratio for a handle activated use. that being said the easiest thing to do is to beat the 12.65 inches shown in the pic and increase it to about 16 inch long handle - 8 ball and all and you should be okay!
OR.:
you can eliminate the purchasing the pedal assy and make your own mount and pivot with a longer throw to gain a higher 9 to 1 ratio.
MOUNTING:
You can mount where ever you like, you can do off the side of the tranny tunnel like the one pictured in post 12, either passenger or drivers side.
I think i would like to cut straight into the center console and mount.
-J
Now if you look at the picture of the pedal assembly you can see that it provides a 7 to 1 ratio. - thats used as a foot pedal and obviously you have more strength in your legs.
So, you would need more like a 9 to 1 ratio for a handle activated use. that being said the easiest thing to do is to beat the 12.65 inches shown in the pic and increase it to about 16 inch long handle - 8 ball and all and you should be okay!
OR.:
you can eliminate the purchasing the pedal assy and make your own mount and pivot with a longer throw to gain a higher 9 to 1 ratio.
MOUNTING:
You can mount where ever you like, you can do off the side of the tranny tunnel like the one pictured in post 12, either passenger or drivers side.
I think i would like to cut straight into the center console and mount.
-J
Last edited by JasonZ-YA; Nov 24, 2008 at 06:33 AM.
I just added this pic to above post. taken from courtesy parts dot com parts fish online.
It would be nice to have a fitting to replace the "to engine bay fitting" (46313) with one we can splice into...might be a better option to replace that guy with two "Y" fittings.
-J
It would be nice to have a fitting to replace the "to engine bay fitting" (46313) with one we can splice into...might be a better option to replace that guy with two "Y" fittings.
-J
Last edited by JasonZ-YA; Jan 15, 2009 at 07:49 PM.
Nackers did exactly what you need here:
https://my350z.com/forum/7339286-post9.html
Remove the passenger wheel well liner and access the existing fitting:
here:
Then go to nackers blog, you can see the rest of how he connected it...
he did this:
Notice here how at 46313 connection he used the Tee fittings im talking about to merge to one line into your Ksport and one line back to the 46313 bottom two lines with another tee:
He (Nackers) however bought adapters and a hardline flare tool because he didnt have the proper metric fittings.
To make it easier, purchase from autozone "asian" hardlines with preinstalled M10x1.0 fittings and then purchase M10x1.0 tee fittings online.
Hint: The bottom left passenger rear of a Nissan 240 has a tee fitting that anyone can get at a local junk yard easy thats M10x1.0
-J
https://my350z.com/forum/7339286-post9.html
Remove the passenger wheel well liner and access the existing fitting:
here:
Then go to nackers blog, you can see the rest of how he connected it...
he did this:
Notice here how at 46313 connection he used the Tee fittings im talking about to merge to one line into your Ksport and one line back to the 46313 bottom two lines with another tee:
He (Nackers) however bought adapters and a hardline flare tool because he didnt have the proper metric fittings.
To make it easier, purchase from autozone "asian" hardlines with preinstalled M10x1.0 fittings and then purchase M10x1.0 tee fittings online.
Hint: The bottom left passenger rear of a Nissan 240 has a tee fitting that anyone can get at a local junk yard easy thats M10x1.0
-J
Last edited by JasonZ-YA; Nov 12, 2010 at 04:05 AM.
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Hi,
okay, here's another option. easier way to do this. It only required one more "T" or "Y" fitting.
MOST IMPORTANTLY - THIS SINGLE MASTER CYLINDER USES A SMALLER 5/8 BORE OVER THE ONE ABOVE WITH A 1 INCH BORE -
SOooo.: That means it will be easier to pull back and not require as long of a handle.
by my calculations you would need at least a 16 inch handle - 8 ball and all...lol
-J
DIAGRAM #2 - 1ST PIC ADDED BELOW:
WILWOOD SINGLE REMOTE RESERVOIR MASTER CYLINDER - P/N 260-10371 - 2ND PIC ADDED BELOW:
WILWOOD PEDAL ASSY - P/N 340-1290 - 3RD PIC ADDED BELOW:
*** Important - Its best you take a look at the pedal assy and how its built, i show two handle options because you would have to cut/notch out the top of the wilwood pedal assy in order for the pic of the handle on the right to work versus the pic on the left.
pic of handle on the LEFT is a handle with two arms coming forward so you wont have to cut the pedal assy.
4th pic shows the remote mounts and the dimension of tanks and master cylinder body - I like this one because its very small!!!
OH YEAH.:
WILWOOD SINGLE REMOTE RESERVOIR MASTER CYLINDER - P/N 260-10371 ONLY COST $81 BUCKS with both reservoirs and remote mounts and all.
-J
okay, here's another option. easier way to do this. It only required one more "T" or "Y" fitting.
MOST IMPORTANTLY - THIS SINGLE MASTER CYLINDER USES A SMALLER 5/8 BORE OVER THE ONE ABOVE WITH A 1 INCH BORE -
SOooo.: That means it will be easier to pull back and not require as long of a handle.
by my calculations you would need at least a 16 inch handle - 8 ball and all...lol
-J
DIAGRAM #2 - 1ST PIC ADDED BELOW:
WILWOOD SINGLE REMOTE RESERVOIR MASTER CYLINDER - P/N 260-10371 - 2ND PIC ADDED BELOW:
WILWOOD PEDAL ASSY - P/N 340-1290 - 3RD PIC ADDED BELOW:
*** Important - Its best you take a look at the pedal assy and how its built, i show two handle options because you would have to cut/notch out the top of the wilwood pedal assy in order for the pic of the handle on the right to work versus the pic on the left.
pic of handle on the LEFT is a handle with two arms coming forward so you wont have to cut the pedal assy.
4th pic shows the remote mounts and the dimension of tanks and master cylinder body - I like this one because its very small!!!
OH YEAH.:
WILWOOD SINGLE REMOTE RESERVOIR MASTER CYLINDER - P/N 260-10371 ONLY COST $81 BUCKS with both reservoirs and remote mounts and all.
-J
Im doing this:
https://my350z.com/forum/brakes-and-...rs-ebrake.html
I answered you here also:
https://my350z.com/forum/8962379-post114.html
-J
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