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Old 12-07-2007 | 08:40 AM
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My old set up was a 1.25 cu ft. sealed enclosure with one Fosgate T1 12" sub, powered by an older model 2 channel Fosgate amp bridged (800 watts @ 4ohms X 1). The sound was deep and clear. Very much to my liking.

Recently I blew the sub. So what any audiophile would do, I decided to upgrade my low's. Since I still have more power available to my disposal, I decided to upgrade the enclosure to one of Mike's Zenclosures.



This enlosure can house two twelves with 1.10 cu ft. per sub. The mounting dept sits just under 8 inches. I've been looking into different subs. This is when I came across the P3 model from Fosgate. Crutchfield carries them for $199.00 each. http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...12&i=575P3D212
All the specs seem to go well with the enclosure demensions and I will have enough available power to efficiently drive these subs. Looks like a fairly good choice to me.

Does anyone have any experience with these subs. Any comments or suggestions are welcomed.




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That is going to be some serious bass, going to dynamat at all?
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That is going to be some serious bass, going to dynamat at all?
The entire trunk and upper hatch has 2 layers of Dyno already. The 3rd brake light is also glued to the back glass.....

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did you already buy the 2each RF P3's
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
did you already buy the 2each RF P3's
no, contemplating still...
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Holy hell thats gonna be loud lol
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Originally Posted by blasian
Holy hell thats gonna be loud lol
I'm hoping so. It's mainly for show. I rarely push it to the max when I'm in the vehicle. My last set up was too much to stand after about 5 minutes of pounding and having blury vision. I'm hoping to have higher overall gains out of these 2 lessor subs if I decide to purchase them.
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Originally Posted by vo7848
I'm hoping so. It's mainly for show. I rarely push it to the max when I'm in the vehicle. My last set up was too much to stand after about 5 minutes of pounding and having blury vision. I'm hoping to have higher overall gains out of these 2 lessor subs if I decide to purchase them.
Yeah, you should considering the added surface area.

My battery needs to be replaced, I don't think its enjoying my overkill amp at all
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2006 RF P3 12" $100 each New
2007 RF P3 12" $ 129 each New

so 1st of all you getting robbed at $199 each thru crutchfeild

if you already have a 12" T1 why not spend $ 250 and get a 2nd T1 12" and do 2 each T1 12" ,instead of 2 each P3 12"


and 2nd of all if you were ready to spend $ 400 for 2 new 12" RF P3 thru crutchfield in 12"


LET ME SELL YOU A WOOFER that sounds better , handles more power, gets deeper and lower , looks way better ,for $400





i can get you speakers that are way better
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Originally Posted by blasian
Holy hell thats gonna be loud lol

2 each 12" sealed won;t be that loud
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
2006 RF P3 12" $100 each New
2007 RF P3 12" $ 129 each New
Well don't just tell me how much cheaper I can get them, lead me to the place!
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if you already have a 12" T1 why not spend $ 250 and get a 2nd T1 12" and do 2 each T1 12" ,instead of 2 each P3 12"
If the orginal T1 12" wasn't blown I probably would get the second.
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
2 each 12" sealed won;t be that loud
Come on man, stick to the set up I'm contemplating vs. my old set up.

If you were comparing it to two ported 12w7's, then Blasian's statement would have been an overstatement...
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Originally Posted by vo7848
Come on man, stick to the set up I'm contemplating vs. my old set up.

If you were comparing it to two ported 12w7's, then Blasian's statement would have been an overstatement...
Considering the term loud is subjective to each person... I can't see how I'm wrong here
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Originally Posted by vo7848
Well don't just tell me how much cheaper I can get them, lead me to the place!

If the orginal T1 12" wasn't blown I probably would get the second.

www.ikesound.com
for 12" p3 2006 new $100

www.sonicelectronics.com for p3 2007 new $129


but please why do you want RF

let me show you light
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
www.ikesound.com
for 12" p3 2006 new $100

www.sonicelectronics.com for p3 2007 new $129
That you sir, for the links....
Originally Posted by 350zspl
but please why do you want RF
let me show you light
I've always been a Rockford man. My entire rear stage and amp components are all Rockford. I've never had bad luck with Rockford either. Kinda like Pioneer HU's. I know there's better out there, but I've never had a single problem with Pioneer and they seem to be the best bang for my buck IMO.

What other suggestions do you have, given the box specs? I'm open to suggestions.

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Originally Posted by vo7848
Come on man, stick to the set up I'm contemplating vs. my old set up.

If you were comparing it to two ported 12w7's, then Blasian's statement would have been an overstatement...


the zenclosures sealed enclosure for 2 each 12" subs and P3 RF being the choice cosidered , or if you wish use JL w6 or JL w7


and then let me build a box for 1 each 12" sub of my choice


1 each ported 12" for me
2 each sealed 12" for you


and we can use the same amp lets say a power series Rf 1000 watt mono amp



1 set up will get lower and deeper than your
my set up will meter higher than yours


so to throw 2 12" sealed again i repeat it wonlt be that loud

bet it will be like 138 DB on the TL and 147 db on the audio control
and mine single will be like 143 db on the TL and like 153 on the audio control




so if your deciding to lose all hatch space for this zenclosure box and spend for 2 subs instead of 1, and add weight of 2 subs instead of 1 WHY


when 1 12" ported will sound , and look better be cheaper and weigh less
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Originally Posted by vo7848
That you sir, for the links....

I've always been a Rockford man. My entire rear stage and amp components are all Rockford. I've never had bad luck with Rockford either. Kinda like Pioneer HU's. I know there's better out there, but I've never had a single problem with Pioneer and they seem to be the best bang for my buck IMO.

What other suggestions do you have, given the box specs? I'm open to suggestions.

if that is the box you want
then i woudl run 2 each 12" RD Audio Classics
and run a rd audio 1750.1 mono amp
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Originally Posted by 350zspl
the zenclosures sealed enclosure for 2 each 12" subs and P3 RF being the choice cosidered , or if you wish use JL w6 or JL w7


and then let me build a box for 1 each 12" sub of my choice


1 each ported 12" for me
2 each sealed 12" for you


and we can use the same amp lets say a power series Rf 1000 watt mono amp



1 set up will get lower and deeper than your
my set up will meter higher than yours


so to throw 2 12" sealed again i repeat it wonlt be that loud

bet it will be like 138 DB on the TL and 147 db on the audio control
and mine single will be like 143 db on the TL and like 153 on the audio control




so if your deciding to lose all hatch space for this zenclosure box and spend for 2 subs instead of 1, and add weight of 2 subs instead of 1 WHY


when 1 12" ported will sound , and look better be cheaper and weigh less
I appreciate the comparison my friend, but like I said earlier. The enclosure I purchased is what I have to work with. You know, I know, hell we all all know that a ported enclosure with a better sub will sound better. I repeat, we all know it. I am not trying to get into a pi$$ing contest with you about your design vs. my design, and which one will sound better.

Like originally stated, I have a Zenclosure sitting in my garage. It can house 2 twelves with 1.10 cu ft of airspace in each compartment. I'm am contemplating 2 P3 RF's because they work will with the specs of the enclosure I already have sitting in my garage. I am not going to go have another enclosure made. I had a T1. It's blown. I need 2 subs. Opinions are welcomed on the set up I'm contemplating. Opinions on better subs that would be compatible with the enclosure I already have are also welcome.

I repeat, I am not trading in the zenclosure for another design, and my original T1 12 is broke. It is not working. It rattles when I play music. I need 2 (two) subs that are compatible with the enclosure I have already.



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Originally Posted by 350zspl
if that is the box you want
then i woudl run 2 each 12" RD Audio Classics
and run a rd audio 1750.1 mono amp
Now this is useful info. I'll look up the subs. Unfortunately I won't be able to swap out amps though....
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Can't seem to find these RD audio classics. Discontinued model perhaps.


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