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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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anyone had remote starter for their alarm system???

how much ????


which is best system????
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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I was looking at the Clifford G5 AvantGuard 5 with the Intellistart Feature and the SmartWindows.

So far though i have been uppriced in every place in miami that i have been so i am holding off.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by pearl430
anyone had remote starter for their alarm system???

how much ????


which is best system????
Do you have an automatic? Because standards narrows it down to about one alarm. Compustar is the best and probably the only legal one for standards.

www.compustar.org I believe. They can tell you the nearest installer in your area.

If you have auto, Viper is a good one, 791 series, about $600 installed.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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yes my car is automatic


wow, i was hoping aroudn 300$
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 06:01 AM
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Alls I can say is that there shouldn't be automatic starters for the Z. You know why? Everyone should have a manual.
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 10:37 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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my buddy was going to hook me up with that viper alarm for 200 bucks but to install it on my truck (its manual transmission) his buddy was going to install it for 200 which is still 200 less than your price. but im thinking about going a step lower. got to protect my new sound sytem
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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by jrofman
Alls I can say is that there shouldn't be automatic starters for the Z. You know why? Everyone should have a manual.
I have a manual and auto start
Compustar makes an alarm (I have it) that remote starts a manual. It has a safety feature that checks to make sure the parking break is up and it's in neutral. If not in the position, the car alarm will just beep 3 times and not start it.

I live in Texas so it feels good getting in my Z already running with the AC blasting u know.
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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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Remote starts are bad news. Just get in and go. Letting a cold car idle for several minutes is very hard on the engine.
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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by OP Z
Remote starts are bad news. Just get in and go. Letting a cold car idle for several minutes is very hard on the engine.
- since when is a car sitting at idle bad for a car?
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 02:28 AM
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Idling in a warm car is not bad. In a cold car, the most wear occurs before the engine internals reach their normal operating temperatures. The normal operating temperature is reached much quicker when driving.
It takes much longer for the car to raech the normal operating temperature if the car is sitting in subzero weather idling.
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by OP Z
Idling in a warm car is not bad. In a cold car, the most wear occurs before the engine internals reach their normal operating temperatures. The normal operating temperature is reached much quicker when driving.
It takes much longer for the car to raech the normal operating temperature if the car is sitting in subzero weather idling.
I see, well I don't think it gets to that point in Dallas. We have a few cold days but nothing compared to what is seen up north. I mainly like the remote start for our 100 degree days with 80% humidy. Especially when I go to the store and the car is outside absorbing the heat with it's red paint. I like the fact I can turn it on while I am in line waiting to pay and when I get to the car I won't be in a sweat box.
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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I had a remote start on my manual 94 Cavalier for about 5 years. I remote started it EVERY day it was cold (Ohio) and had over 130,000 miles on the car when I sold it to get my G. I never saw any added wear and tear on the engine, although I can see where that point is coming from. Although, I have also heard it is terrible on a cold engine to jump in it and expect it to work like normal. You need to let it warm up a bit before you expect it to work for you.

Also, I am unaware of any state/county/city who has made it a crime to install a remote start on a manual transmission. Most shops just won't perform the install due to the liability involved.

Most new manual Nissans/Infinitis have a PNP (Park Neutral Position) switch that tells the ECU when the car is in neutral (to prevent no load over rev). This signal can be used to somewhat reliably add any remote start system to the six speed.

I say somewhat reliably because the switch is a mechanical switch mounted in the tranny, and all mechanical switches are inherently prone to failure. This failure rate is basically Inconsequential.

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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by OP Z
Idling in a warm car is not bad. In a cold car, the most wear occurs before the engine internals reach their normal operating temperatures. The normal operating temperature is reached much quicker when driving.
It takes much longer for the car to raech the normal operating temperature if the car is sitting in subzero weather idling.
Ummm wrong.

The wear and tear on a motor is much greater when the valves, bearings, journals, seals are subjected to cold hard running over shorter periods of time compared to longer 'soft' running for warmup. I worked on this for 3 years in my masters programs for both mechanical and manufacturing engineering.

I've also been building motors for 15 years as well...
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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How much do just the remote start or remote/alarm go for from Compustar....

I dont see any prices on the site, and I was curious before I call around...
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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I just called around to a few shops and they all declined to mess with remote starters on manuals.

One said that it was a 10k fine if a shop was caught doing it....I checked online, but I havent found anything about them being illegal yet....

Oh well, more cash towards the audio portion I guess.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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I have the Compustar 2WSS on my Z and it ran me $670 installed with windows up/down and trunk pop as additional features. If I'm not mistaken, Compustar has a government license to install remote starts on Manual Cars and they are the only alarm company that is licensed to do so.

Cons of Compustar : Customer service is horrible and they dont have many vendors throughout the country.
- Remote Key Fob is huge (almost as big as a small cellphone)
- Battery on the Remote only lasts a month at the most.

I have a buddy that has the Clifford Matrix on his Z Roadster and it has all the same options as my Compustar. Trust me, if you really want the remote start, you can find somebody to install it for you. But, if you want a Remote Start alarm that is entirely legal in manual transmission cars, you gotta go with the Compustar.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by LS350Z
Ummm wrong.

The wear and tear on a motor is much greater when the valves, bearings, journals, seals are subjected to cold hard running over shorter periods of time compared to longer 'soft' running for warmup. I worked on this for 3 years in my masters programs for both mechanical and manufacturing engineering.

I've also been building motors for 15 years as well...
From one mechanical engineer to another, I totally have to agree with you, it would be better to let your car sit there and idle or idle at around 1000-1500 rpms than to get in a take off with a cold engine. Allowing a cold engine to warm up with no load is the best way to baby your Z.

Oh yea, a quick story for this thread, I had a remote start on my manual 300ZX, one time I left it in first and hit the button to show off for a girl at college, I was going to give her a ride home, needless to say, the freaking car started to drive out of teh parking lot over the grass and into the middle of the road. After traveling about 20 feet, the thing actually stalled on the yellow lines because the remote start realized that the car wouldn't and stopped trying to do so. I started to run towards my car because it was just waiting to get broadsided. Well, I unlocked the car and got it off the road just intime before a car came. I don't think I will ever show off to a girl again with a remote start. I was totally embarassed, she was hysterically laughing and I almost had my car totalled in an accident.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 06:44 PM
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Here are a few web sites that say cold weather idling is bad for you engine and other drive train components. There are tons of them. It's much more difficult to find a competent authority that says it's ok.
Nobody ever said to get in and drive like hell. A gradual warm up at <2k rpm is my normal practice.

http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/idling/issues...tView=N&Text=N
http://www.automotiveforums.com/t1446.html
http://www.accesscom.com/~alant/corvette/breakin.html
http://www.frontierequip.com/service...eathertips.htm
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