Well I really want to run slicks front and rear but I dont have a garage or a tow vehicle until next year when I buy a house.

So all I am worried about is wheel and tire setup.

Right now I am running TE37 TA Volks with a 19 9.5 and 10.5 setup. I planned on having these as my street tires but they are lighter than my stockers with a 255/275 T1S Toyo's setup. front tires are new rears are bald.

I also have my 18" touring stockers with 245/265 RE50 tires.


So should I road race with the volk or the oem. I really dont want to damage the volks with harsh brake pads, but I want great grip.

I could get some R888's or Azenis on my stockers with a 265 setup front and rear that I could drive to the track.

 

1) search in the forum. this question has been asked "few" times.

btw just for hint.
first times you're not going to go to fast but probably you'll overheat the brakes.
so get a good set of clubsport brakes, steel braided lines (stoptech or goodridge), and a decent oil fluid (ate blue will work). depending on the year of your car you could find ferodo ds 2500, ebc red or yellow...
stockers are going to be fine. stock tires or "street" in general are going to be fine for quite few times.... you'll discover that the major problem for the speed of your car is you, not the power, not the tires, not the suspension, not the differential.

on stockers you can even get falken azenis... 245F / 255R it's an almost square setup and those tires are damn cheap (less then 700$ shipped) they will last enough to let you have enough track time to learn at least the line and have some hint of braking...

 

well I already have

ss lines
Carbotec pads
custom valved bilteins and custom eibach springs
evo R sways

I have auto-x for about 30 events in 4 years
I have road raced twice just as hot laps

I really need the max grip that I can street drive to the track and drive home

 

I'd vote for bone stock. Keep your nice rims for the street. Most instructors will tell you to keep it simple if you really want to learn to be a great driver. You can add lots of tire with R-compounds, etc...but you have just as much fun with bone stock. That extra traction can hide a lot of driver errors and slow your progress. I'm an instructor and have been driving roadcourses for several years now. Believe it or not, I still run stock RE040 tires! And I just love to real in those with the huge tires and R-compounds. And when I'm following those with the R-compounds most are all over the track. Of course...I've got STOPTECH's on all 4 corners. I get my tires used off of E-BAY (poor man's shaving) for about $60-$70 a tire. I use the money I save to run more roadcourse...

Lastly, if you want some great traction on the stock rims the RE-01R Bridgestone is an amazing tire. (ok...I ran out of some of the used tires once and ran these. Wow, what amazing grip!)

Good luck...

 

Tear up your OEMs not your nice Volks. If you drop a wheel your going to rash the Volks pretty good. Cleaning wheels after a track day is no fun with all the brake dust and tire goo stuck to it.

I ran Falken 615s for 20 track days (yes, your not road racing on a track day). Then switched to NT 01 full depth. No problem getting to the track and back even on rainy days.

Even in our race car we have taken brand new Hoosier R6s and drove to the track, just a little squirrelly until all the release agent is gone after a few laps.

Tow rig and trailer can be a benefit but I always thought it was a pain to load everything and head out. Plus, coming home was no fun in rush hour traffic.

Enclosed trailer is more ideal to have.

 

i will have an enclosed trailer and a 454ss chevy tow truck for my next year.

I am glad you guys agree on the stock rims, I didnt want to mess up the volks. or have to run loud and rough race tires on my dd wheels, I like the quiet toyos I have now.

well I will start searching for a streetable track tire.

I would love stoptechs but i hope stock brakes with good pads, fluid and lines will suffice. Maybe I should get some brake ducts

 

Like I said NT01s are great R-compounds. I know several that race in SCCA that use them. You could also use R-compound Toyos R888 at full depth.

Nitto also has the 05 coming out next month. Closest street tire to a R-Compound.

 

What is a “road race?” HPDE? Time attack? Wheel-to-wheel racing?

 

hpde

 

Any good DOT tire is suitable for a road course. What tires do you use for autocross? Are you happy with the tires? Then use them on the road course.

 

i have the re50 and i am not pleased. i have better luck with the toyo's on my volks for auto-x.


I guess I am scared to be on the road course. Last time I was out I was driving my 400whp 2200lb FC3s with 245 azenis and almost killed myself.

 

LOL. I drove at Summit Point, WV in the rain. Gets the adrenaline going!

 

never been in the rain though but i have done summit twice and VIR once on the north course.

 

If someone really wants to learn better car control then I believe it's better to start with a thinner street compound. If someone starts with wide R-comps, even dot R's, then they will miss out on learning about slip angles, mid corner rotations and other techniques that will make them smoother and faster no matter what car they are driving. Many people think that having the most grip is what they are looking for and in a way it's some what true, but if you have balance and control you can be just as fast. Most tires reach their maximum grip at about 6 to 10 degrees of slip. If you have a tire who's limits are so high that it is uncomfortable to push it to get that slip will make it harder to get the feeling for the rotation.

 

makes good sense. Then tend to say the absolute last thing you get is Rcomps.

I'm glad you guys agree that the stockers will be adequate to use so I am going to search for some nice sticky road tires and I think I will be good. Still want to do the 265 F & R

 

Consider one of these top rated tires: https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-...uld-i-get.html

 

Makes sense. Having a squared setup helps in several ways. it helps the out of the box understeer of the 350z. It also helps tire life since you can rotate them throughout a weekend for even wear.

 

are you going to the VIR patriot course on the 22nd? I will be there, so will FORZWIN.

I picked up some R-comps for this season - no enclosed trailer but we will be towing.

 

is he using a trailer too?

I think I could make it to that event. one day?

fawk...I still need to get a camber kit and get my alignment done, no contact patch in the rear FTL

 

no, he's driving down, running street tires.

yep one day, on the 1.1 mile patriot course, I think its $115? Its a good deal regardless.